Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-19 Thread Steven A Smith
Dave - > Replying mostly to Steve's post about psychedelics /CAW, Thanks for helping spin this fibre into the thread... > I was a member of the Minneapolis Nest of CAW It is good to have a first-hand report. I vaguely remember that _Smith_ might have used the term "Nest" which for some reason in

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: < On the other hand, it feels as if what is needed is a secular form "Return to Grace" which might require no more (total understatement) than recalibrating our humility/hubris ratio. > Sure, I’m willing to recalibrate after power changes hands, or I find myself as member of gen

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-19 Thread Steven A Smith
On 4/18/19 8:17 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Going back to the original thread you split (subject line), I would > probably have more concern for parallax if I thought there were > different perspectives and some kind of nuance that was at risk.    > Metaphorically speaking, we aren’t driving in

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
Smith Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 7:13 PM To: "friam@redfish.com" Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus < We can turn up the brightness and narrow the focus to maximize flux,

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Steven A Smith
> < We can turn up the brightness and narrow the focus to maximize flux, > but for many problems, that is not unlike hitting our high beams in a > snowstorm or fogbank.   One of the things I hope (mostly in vain, but > not entirely) for from this list is discussion of how to apply Complex > System

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
< We can turn up the brightness and narrow the focus to maximize flux, but for many problems, that is not unlike hitting our high beams in a snowstorm or fogbank. One of the things I hope (mostly in vain, but not entirely) for from this list is discussion of how to apply Complex Systems Theory

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: < Would you say that you have more confidence or faith in enhancing individual agency than in seeking the synergies and emergent possibilities through enhancing collective agency? > Something close to no confidence for the latter. I think empowered cohesive minority groups wil

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Steven A Smith
Marcus - > > < I personally expect *practical* post/transhumanism to continue > inevitably at an accelerated rate and see no advantage in trying to > stand in it's way, but DO feel an ethical drive to try to at least > caution against the kinds of technological-outrunning-of-headlights I > believe

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread glen∈ℂ
And ... Restoration of brain circulation and cellular functions hours post-mortem https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1099-1 I've been guilty of calling the "brain in a vat" thought experiment silly. I'll have to stop doing that now. On 4/17/19 4:09 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: < As an (a

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Prof David West
Replying mostly to Steve's post about psychedelics /CAW, I was a member of the Minneapolis Nest of CAW when I was an undergraduate student 68-72 and I must confess it was mostly about the sex, closely followed by struggles to re-define gender/social relationships/roles when everyone acknowledge

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
< As an (apparent) proponent of fairly aggressive trans-humanism, can you elaborate on what you see as the biggest promises/cautions to the ideas involved? > Here are a couple in the news recently. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gene-therapy-cures-infants-with-bubble-bo

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: < I personally expect *practical* post/transhumanism to continue inevitably at an accelerated rate and see no advantage in trying to stand in it's way, but DO feel an ethical drive to try to at least caution against the kinds of technological-outrunning-of-headlights I believe alr

[FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-17 Thread Steven A Smith
Marcus - > Perhaps ... there will be more interest in protection & enhancement > cognition as well. > > Of course there’s Kernel and Neuralink > too.    I know Kung Fu > ! > >   > > https://www.cell.com/