Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
She seems concerned that vaccinated people will spread Delta, Lambda to the unvaccinated.Ooh, can we? :-) On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:  Gail Tverberg: does anyone have an opinion about her? Based on her career as an actuary she writes various blog posts and articl

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
Gail Tverberg: does anyone have an opinion about her? Based on her career as an actuary she writes various blog posts and articles warning of imminent disasters related to Covid, oil prices, etc. When I search for commentaries about her I find almost nothing except items that she has written. S

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers. On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Marcus - The pushback on everything from low wattage lighting to mask mandates leaves me thinking that there is really only one thing that motivates certain people: That they can do wha

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
> Sorry.  I meant no particular enthusiasm for a living wage as an > ultimate goal.  The goal is, of course, to create a system that allows > a maximum number of people to do what they want.  So each freedom for > one person is judged against restrictions it imposes on others.  > >   > > You could

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
Marcus - > > The pushback on everything from low wattage lighting to mask mandates > leaves me thinking that there is really only one thing that motivates > certain people:  That they can do whatever the hell they want and, > crucially, that other people cannot.   A living wage infringes on that >

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread thompnickson2
Sorry. I meant no particular enthusiasm for a living wage as an ultimate goal. The goal is, of course, to create a system that allows a maximum number of people to do what they want. So each freedom for one person is judged against restrictions it imposes on others. You could read the a

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
The pushback on everything from low wattage lighting to mask mandates leaves me thinking that there is really only one thing that motivates certain people: That they can do whatever the hell they want and, crucially, that other people cannot. A living wage infringes on that ranking and so mus

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
NST - > > until Musk started being convincing (to me) that he might get a modest > number of humans TO Mars in his (and my?) lifetime. > >   > > Rocket rich guys to Mars, fight a war against… (North Korea, Iran, > Russia, even China), ANYTHING to avoid paying a living wage on earth.  > And what abo

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
DaveW - > Highly recommend John Brunner's /The Sheep Look Up/ for fans of > ecological disaster. > > davew Well offered.   When I first read /Sheep/ (in the same era it was published?) it was too pessimistic for my young, naive, cynical but optimistic tastes.   I was lead there by his Stand on Za

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread thompnickson2
until Musk started being convincing (to me) that he might get a modest number of humans TO Mars in his (and my?) lifetime. Rocket rich guys to Mars, fight a war against… (North Korea, Iran, Russia, even China), ANYTHING to avoid paying a living wage on earth. N Nick Thompson

[FRIAM] Philosophy of Simulation

2021-08-07 Thread thompnickson2
So now there is Philosophy of Simulation. Go at it, guys! See, https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13347-021-00461-8 Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-

Re: [FRIAM] Bike is the slow death of the planet

2021-08-07 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
Nick, Having to choose between modern technology and what's good for the environment is a false dichotomy. There are societies, like Denmark, with a clear direction towards a good balance between the tension between the modern industrial world and the environment. Let me quote one of the replies

Re: [FRIAM] Bike is the slow death of the planet

2021-08-07 Thread thompnickson2
Pieter, So, unpack this a little. Take it beyond irony. See this piece that I am constantly flogging on friam. Am I flogging a dead horse or am I flogging you WITH a dead horse. I

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Prof David West
Highly recommend John Brunner's *The Sheep Look Up* for fans of ecological disaster. davew On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > ... unbending the psychonaut thread > >> And something will have to power the artificial magnetosphere after the >> teraforming.. > ... as I unders

[FRIAM] Bike is the slow death of the planet

2021-08-07 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I don't know who wrote this originally, I got it on social media: "Bike is the slow death of the planet ". A banker made economists think this when he said: ′′ A cyclist is a disaster for the country's economy: he doesn't buy cars or borrow money to buy. He doesn't pay insurance policies Doesn't b