Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Gary Schiltz
The cloud forests and coastal plains of northern South America are very humid with lots of sunshine and rain for much of the year. I am leaving the majority of my 110 acres here in Ecuador in secondary forest for the wildlife. Of course when the shit really hits the fan in the north, ownership will

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
Between 1990 and 2000 I owned 40 acres of Piñon-Juniper land about 90 miles south of Santa Fe. I recently saw an item about a highly effective carbon sequestration grass. It has stiff leaves about 3 or 4 feet long. For a moment I thought that I should have planted that stuff there. Then I realiz

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread thompnickson2
Merle, Do we need a Whole Earth Catalogue of climate change survival? Or is there one, already, and I just don’t know of it? I wonder how many people on this list are old enough to remember the WEC. It has always seemed to me to have been, in some weird way, a harbinger of the internet

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread David Eric Smith
And not only forests. Restructure agriculture. The perennial polyculture concept for which Wes Jackson founded the Land Institute https://landinstitute.org/ Is meant to base farming on a cropping system with the structure of a prairie sod. Either farmland or prairi

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Well, he's right. There a rapidly increasing number of "climate refugees" and some interesting maps of the next best places in the world to survive by building small communities, amending the soil, and growing and storing food. On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:51 AM wrote: > Merle, > > > > I think he i

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I really appreciate lists like this. I'd add a few of my own: only fly on business and only when necessary, work remotely as much as possible, consolidate online orders to reduce the number of deliveries, tap water, etc. I fail often, though, e.g. taking 2 extra bodies with me on my last busines

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Merle writes: < And what treatment do you suggest, Marcus? > The treatment is the necessary physical consequence of past and current actions of humans on this planet. To the extent humans could augment that treatment for our own collective benefit, I suppose we could escort nationalists to e

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
I think he should say reducing greenhouse gases and Other mitigation strategies include: - Improving the energy efficiency of buildings to reduce emissions from heating/cooling - Planting forests and tree to remove excess carbon dioxide from our atmosphere - Reducing fuel emissions

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread thompnickson2
Merle, I think he is going to say that the migration IS the treatment. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.cla

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Merle Lefkoff
And what treatment do you suggest, Marcus? On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:46 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Dave writes: > > < Even more scary are all the side effects as massive migrations that fail > to respect existing political boundaries ensue with a concomitant rise in > nationalism and all the joys

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Dave writes: < Even more scary are all the side effects as massive migrations that fail to respect existing political boundaries ensue with a concomitant rise in nationalism and all the joys it will bring us.> Tom writes: < So perhaps "existing political boundaries" are no longer a viable or r

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread thompnickson2
Dave, No skating on the polders this year! Cold as hell in Santa Fe, if that's any comfort. It's funny about that shame thing. It's one of those forces that connects individual actions with group-level consequences. Feeds those Armenians. Nick Nick Nicholas Thomps

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Prof David West
Merle wrote: *" ... the deep dialogue on global warming that I experience (and sometimes facilitate) happening around the world everywhere but here in the U.S ..."* Echo that -- I am now experiencing two kinds of deep personal shame at the moment. One because everybody but me knows and conver

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread Tom Johnson
RE Dave West: So perhaps "existing political boundaries" are no longer a viable or rational concept? (But I have yet to find a potential alternative.) Tom Johnson On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 8:18 AM wrote: > Well we certainly agree on that. > > So should we put it before the Jury? > > N > > Nicholas Th