Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Russ, Thanks for stating the issues so precisely. You perhaps my side of the argument a tad too strongly. It’s not that I think that self-conscious (etc.) doesn’t exist; it’s that I think of it as a material relation. So anywhere, anytime, etc., that material relation can be generate

[FRIAM] Just an amusing obervation: number of addblock scripts needed

I just for fun thread, and not sure better here or wedtech mail list. But it's also a distrubinbly bad trend: I personally have on chrome: 4 differerent adblockers Addblock Plus, Ublock both get installed bassically after installing a browser Youtube adblocker A Facebook adblocker Trying to find

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Good to talk to you again also, Nick. You characterized me as saying, *"yours is an in principle argument against any claim that machines and humans are ever doing the same thing, right?" * I wouldn't go that far. One might argue that as physical beings, we are machines of a sort, so there's not s

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Larding below. Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Russ II, Good to be back in touch with you. The question is certainly naïve. So nobody other than me (John? Jon? David? Lee? Eric? HELP!) is willing to breath some life into it, then that IS its answer. But while awaiting Higher Authority, let me say a couple of things. See Lardi

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Turing machines can perform an algorithm like an auto-encoding deep neural net, where a picture of a tree could be categorized as a tree in some internal node. Likewise activating that internal node might generate an image of a tree (when the Turing machine dreams). From: Friam on behalf of F

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

On the way to Friam I said to Nick. Turing Machines don't know anything. They may store representations of knowledge. I further said that a photograph also represents knowledge. For example, the number of floors of a given building. Most people would be puzzled by the question, "What does a pho

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Nick, I can't believe you are asking such a question -- unless by "know" you mean something very different from the common understanding. No computer *knows* anything, although it may have lots of stored information. (*Information *is meant in the Shannon sense.) For example, Oxford defines

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

What was the result of this morning's conversation? On 4/25/19 10:50 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > What does a Turing Machine know? -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College t

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

Hi Glen, > On Apr 25, 2019, at 11:53 PM, glen∈ℂ wrote: > > Yes! I can't seem to find a copy of the article. But going on your > description and the figures, it looks like an excellent example of treating > hierarchy as something to measure rather than impute. (The silverchair.com > link did