RE: [Freesurfer] still exiting with errors

2009-02-17 Thread Dankner, Nathan (NIH/NIMH) [F]
No. At least for this particular subject, when I run recon-all it does not create the noCCseg file. However, I have only been starting from autorecon2. Does this make a difference? Also, I have just downloaded version 4.2...if I run it using the new version will it create the files I need?

[Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Devdutta W
Hi, In Qdec, what exactly does the area option measure? As I understand, qdec does its calculations vertex by vertex, which makes sense in case of cortical thickness. But if area refers to surface area how does that change from vertex to vertex? Or is it calculating the area by ROI? Is my under

[Freesurfer] Freesurfer visuals

2009-02-17 Thread Devdutta W
Hello again, My questions refer to the attached image. The image is of the average subject I created from our subjects using the "make_average_subject" command. As you can see, in an inflated view there are many gyri and sulci looking structures that shouldn't be there. Clearly something is not r

[Freesurfer] Re: Freesurfer visuals

2009-02-17 Thread Devdutta W
Oops, forgot the attachment. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Devdutta W wrote: > Hello again, > My questions refer to the attached image. > The image is of the average subject I created from our subjects using the > "make_average_subject" command. As you can see, in an inflated view there > a

[Freesurfer] Re: Freesurfer Digest, Vol 60, Issue 30

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel Wakeman
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[Freesurfer] (no subject)

2009-02-17 Thread carl
As far as the first, This happens sometimes when you make your own average subject. You just need to inflate it more. I will try to dig up an old email I have on the commands. As for the second, just click the redraW BUTTON CARL SCHWARTZ On 2/17/09 12:44 PM, "Devdutta W" wrote: Oops, forg

[Freesurfer] more inflation of average subject

2009-02-17 Thread carl
below worked for us carl schwartz -- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Fischl Date: Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:26 PM Subject: Re: more inflation To: Doug Greve two things: 1. use -n , where the default is 10 (try 20) 2. -dist , where the default l is 0.1 (try something smaller, o

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Nick Schmansky
Devdutta, The 'area' of a vertex on a surface in freesurfer is just the average of the area of the triangles which touch that vertex . The volume data associated with a vertex created for a subject is not buggy in how it is calculated now. it is the area of the mid-point between the white and pi

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Harms
Is there now actually a "mid" surface available in between the white and pial surfaces? (i.e., akin to Caret)? Or by "area of the mid-point" are you just referring to the average at each vertex of the ?h.area and ? h.area.pial "curv" files? thanks, -Mike H. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 13:17 -0500, Ni

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Harms
It seems like the issue of whether or not to correct the volume when mapping to fsaverage is akin to the choice of "modulated" vs. "non- modulated" VBM, as it's called... -MH On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 13:17 -0500, Nick Schmansky wrote: > Devdutta, > > The 'area' of a vertex on a surface in freesurf

Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
I agree. The average looks fine, and the stuff at the bottom is because we don't automatically redraw the graphics window. You need to click redraw (or alt-r when the focus is in the graphics window) is you obscure part of it. cheers, Bruce On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 c...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
I think the area probably should be corrected to preserve the native area of the subject, but as you say we haven't gotten to the correction yet. On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Nick Schmansky wrote: Devdutta, The 'area' of a vertex on a surface in freesurfer is just the average of the area of the trian

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mike, we don't generate the mid surface by default, but there is code around to do so if you want to. You can use: mris_expand -thickness lh.white 0.5 lh.midgray to generate it I think. cheers, Bruce On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Michael Harms wrote: Is there now actually a "mid" surface ava

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, it's the same, and modulated (or Jacobian corrected) is definitely the right thing to do IMO On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Michael Harms wrote: It seems like the issue of whether or not to correct the volume when mapping to fsaverage is akin to the choice of "modulated" vs. "non- modulated" VBM, a

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Nick Schmansky
Mike, The 'area of the mid-point' calculation is made by averaging the ?h.area and ?h.area_pial data files (the ?h.area file contains the area of the white surface). This is done in recon-all using mris_calc, and outputs ?h.area_mid. Nick On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:41 -0600, Michael Harms wrote:

[Freesurfer] mri_convert crash

2009-02-17 Thread Kirk Gregory R.
I have epi data with a single slice at each time point and am trying to convert it. get MRIresample(): error inverting matrix; determinant is nan, matrix is: when it tries to resample the data. seems the single slice blows a fuse. i don't see a flag to turn off the resampling ? or other way ?

[Freesurfer] recon-all error: libexpat.so.0

2009-02-17 Thread Narly A Golestani
Dear all, I installed freesurfer_Linux_centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v4.2.0-full on SuSE Enterprise (SLED 10.2), and ran recon-all. The process ran until near the end, and then terminated with the following error: * . Reporting on 49 segmentations #

Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2009-02-17 Thread Devdutta W
Thank you everyone for your answers. They have been very helpful. Devdutta On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote: > I agree. The average looks fine, and the stuff at the bottom is because we > don't automatically redraw the graphics window. You need to click redraw (or > alt-r whe

[Freesurfer] brazil course

2009-02-17 Thread Sam Torrisi
hello there, i have questions for Pedro Paulo de M. Oliveira regarding the upcoming Brazilian FS course but cannot find his email address anywhere in the archives or his announcement. also, do you know if there is another upcoming course in the states, preferably on the west coast? thank

[Freesurfer] % threshold in mri_segment

2009-02-17 Thread Bai Xue
Hi, What's the use of the % threshold (-p option) in mri_segment? Thanks. Bai ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

Re: [Freesurfer] brazil course

2009-02-17 Thread Nick Schmansky
Sam, Pedro Paulo de M. Oliveira's email is: ppj at netfilter.com.br The original post is here: https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2009- February/009688.html with details here: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/BrazilCourseSchedule A course is being off

Re: [Freesurfer] % threshold in mri_segment

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
I think it's not used any more On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Bai Xue wrote: Hi, What's the use of the % threshold (-p option) in mri_segment? Thanks. Bai ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listi

RE: [Freesurfer] brazil course

2009-02-17 Thread ppj
We still have four places. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Nick Schmansky Sent: 17/02/2009 18:36:08 To: Sam Torrisi Cc: Freesurfer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] brazil course Sam, Pedro Paulo de M. Oliveira's email is: ppj at netfilter.com.br The original

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Darren Gitelman
Devdutta, Nick, Bruce, Mike I'm trying to understand these measures in terms of how they would map to the brain physically. Would it be correct that the size of the triangles touching a vertex would be related to the amount curvature near a particular vertex and therefore the amount of unfolding

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Darren the curvature is related to the angles of the edges connected to each vertex (also called the "angle deficit"). The surface area should just be given by how much compression expansion the individual surface undergoes when it aligns to a spot in the atlas. We'll compute it and correct

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec area measure

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Harms
Here is a question related to this whole discussion (prompted by what Darren wrote): As a practical matter, have you found the localized (i.e., vertex-based) measures of area and volume to be biologically useful and meaningful? Have they been used in any published studies? (I don't recall seeing