Re: [Freesurfer] GM Volumes

2021-05-10 Thread Douglas N. Greve
look in ?h.aparc.stats files On 4/27/2021 2:17 PM, Nils B. wrote: External Email - Use Caution Dear Freesurfer developers, I'm hoping you can help me once again. Right now I'm working on how to extract certain measurements out of my data set. I have two groups and MRI data from one t

Re: [Freesurfer] GM and WM intensity thresholds (Manual Edits)

2018-11-27 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi David 1. I think the main function of the 3T flag is to align to an Talairach average of 3T data, so probably you should continue to use it. 2. There really is no hard threshold. For the control points you want to use voxels that are entirely wm , no partial voluming and no pathology. 3.

Re: [Freesurfer] GM = SurfArea x Thick

2016-11-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
It should be relatively close, but they will not be identical since the volume calculation is not linear On 11/09/2016 03:40 PM, Daya P wrote: > Hi all, > > I grey matter volume supposed to be equal to surface area x average > thickness in each ROI when looking at mris_anatomical_stats for > i

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-09 Thread P Taylor
OK, then, I think that sorts out all my questions on this issue at this time. Thanks for the discussion and suggestions. --pt On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote: > That looks like a good list, but we don't keep track of all these > things. To add to it, we have wmparc.mgz w

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
That looks like a good list, but we don't keep track of all these things. To add to it, we have wmparc.mgz which is segmented WM (3000-3035, 4000-4035). On 11/09/2016 03:00 PM, P Taylor wrote: > The FreeSurferColorLUT.txt file has over 1,200 regions listed in it, > but I assume that not all of

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-09 Thread P Taylor
The FreeSurferColorLUT.txt file has over 1,200 regions listed in it, but I assume that not all of those could be output in those default recon-all aparc+aseg* files. For example, I don't think I have ever seen a region: "3001wm-lh-bankssts 230 155 215 0" output. So, I ass

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-09 Thread Douglas Greve
Sorry, I'm not sure what your question is here? On 11/8/16 5:25 PM, P Taylor wrote: OK, thanks for that list of complementary ROIs. I've always wondered what is the maximal set of regions that can be returned by the standard recon-all with no other options for aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg2009?

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread P Taylor
OK, thanks for that list of complementary ROIs. I've always wondered what is the maximal set of regions that can be returned by the standard recon-all with no other options for aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg2009? Looking at the FreeSurferColorLUT.txt, I guess there is a batch from lines 1-231 (spannin

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread Douglas Greve
Actually, what it does is to binarize all the labels that it thinks are not GM, and then invert the mask to give GM. for what it is worth, there are the non-GM numbers MatchValues[nMatch++] = 2; MatchValues[nMatch++] = 41; MatchValues[nMatch++] = 77; MatchValues[nMatch++]

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread P Taylor
OK. But going back to my question that kicked this thread off, actually what I was looking for was just such a rule. I could make a fairly solid list of GM from using this new "mri_binarize --gm " on several recon-all outputs. Would it be possible to have the rule (presumably a list of numbe

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread Douglas Greve
Yes. It just uses a rule on the numbers that it expects to be GM. At some point, I'll add both tissue type and laterality info to the ROIs, but not for version 6 On 11/8/16 12:03 PM, P Taylor wrote: And a final question, which might be a silly one-- This GM map applies to both the aparc.a200

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread P Taylor
And a final question, which might be a silly one-- This GM map applies to both the aparc.a2009s+aseg.mgz and aparc+aseg.mgz files, right? Running "mri_binarize --gm ..." on each of those files separately gave the same mask-- I believe this should be a general property? Thanks, pt On Tue, Nov 8,

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread Douglas Greve
yes On 11/8/16 11:51 AM, P Taylor wrote: Ah, cool, that looks like it does the trick-- thanks much. Will that version of mri_binarize be in the next release of FS? Thanks, pt On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Douglas Greve mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Try this one ht

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread P Taylor
Ah, cool, that looks like it does the trick-- thanks much. Will that version of mri_binarize be in the next release of FS? Thanks, pt On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Douglas Greve wrote: > Try this one https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/safelinks/greve/mri_binarize > > On 11/8/16 11:26 AM, P

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread Douglas Greve
Try this one https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/safelinks/greve/mri_binarize On 11/8/16 11:26 AM, P Taylor wrote: Thanks, I'd like to try that. However, my mri_binarize doesn't show that option, and when I try running it, that option isn't recognized: $ mri_binarize --gm --o map_gm.nii --i apa

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread P Taylor
Thanks, I'd like to try that. However, my mri_binarize doesn't show that option, and when I try running it, that option isn't recognized: $ mri_binarize --gm --o map_gm.nii --i aparc+aseg.mgz ERROR: Option --gm unknown Looking at the mri_binarize help, I see '--wm' exists, and that does, indeed,

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-08 Thread Douglas Greve
We don't currently have that information (ie, tissue type) stored with the ROI. One thing you can do is to run mri_binarize with the --gm option on aparc+aseg.mgz This uses some rules to determine what is GM and creates a mask of GM. You can then feed this into mri_segstats with --mask, and i

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-07 Thread P Taylor
Thanks, that's useful for getting the ROI volumes and a list of all that's been found for a particular data set. I would still like to have a way to identify a listed region as gray matter or not so that I can parse the file for only GM regions that have been returned, particularly as different nu

Re: [Freesurfer] GM ROI list?

2016-11-07 Thread Douglas N Greve
I don't know that we have a complete list in one place of just the aparc+aseg ROIs, but you can get one by running mri_segstats --seg aparc+aseg.mgz --ctab-default --sum sum.dat then look in the sum.dat file On 11/03/2016 04:32 PM, P Taylor wrote: > Is there an available list of GM regions wit

Re: [Freesurfer] GM and WM volume for each lobe...

2013-02-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Gonzalo, each of those commands has a --help flag which causes it to print out documentation. Have you looked at that yet? doug On 02/28/2013 01:20 PM, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote: > Hi: > >I need to compute the GM and WM volume for each lobe... I know that > for GM, I must use: > > mri_annot

Re: [Freesurfer] GM, WM and CSF segmentation for partial volume correction

2011-09-28 Thread _andreia_
Thanks Bruce and Douglas! Andreia Citando Douglas N Greve : > mri_compute_volume_fractions will compute the fractions for each of > the tissue types, no need to alter the segmentations. > doug > > > > Bruce Fischl wrote: >> Hi Andreia >> >> you could certainly change our segmentation labels

Re: [Freesurfer] GM, WM and CSF segmentation for partial volume correction

2011-09-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
mri_compute_volume_fractions will compute the fractions for each of the tissue types, no need to alter the segmentations. doug Bruce Fischl wrote: > Hi Andreia > > you could certainly change our segmentation labels to just these 3 classes > easily enough in matlab. Then we have tools for compu

Re: [Freesurfer] GM, WM and CSF segmentation for partial volume correction

2011-09-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Andreia you could certainly change our segmentation labels to just these 3 classes easily enough in matlab. Then we have tools for computing partial volume fractions (I think mri_compute_volume_fractions) cheers Bruce On Wed, 28 Sep 2011, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote: > Hello list, > > Followi

Re: [Freesurfer] GM and thickness

2010-05-28 Thread Michael Harms
Hi Kelly, See also these threads where I advocate using mean cortical thickness as an appropriate covariate for a thickness analysis: http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg11987.html http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg13459.html Mean cortical th

Re: [Freesurfer] GM and thickness

2010-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Kelly, it's a bit of an open question what the relationshop between thickness and icv is. It's probably not linear, maybe icv^(1/3)? cheers Bruce On Fri, 28 May 2010, Kelly Silva wrote: > Hello, > > I'm doing regression analyses with cortical thickness at > the level of voxel. Should I co

Re: [Freesurfer] GM exclusion

2010-02-11 Thread Sita Kakunoori
Hi Johanna, This is probably a topological defect. Please follow the steps in this wiki to correct the surfaces. https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/TopologicalDefect Sita. On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, johanna feiler wrote: Dear freesurfer experts, After running the autorecon2

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread keepmoon
Dear Bruce, Thank you very much for your patient instruction! In fact, I used *"file--load overlay*", then with below error information. Maybe I can try mris_calc. Thanks again! Best regards! Joe 2010/2/2 Bruce Fischl > it looks like you are trying to load the volume

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
it looks like you are trying to load the volume measures as a surface, not as an overlay. Use file->load overlay. Note that you can also use mris_calc to generate the volume measures. cheers Bruce On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, keepmoon wrote: > Dear Bruce, > >This is the all information in tci:

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread keepmoon
Dear Bruce, This is the all information in tci: % $ tksurfer xalbertM lh inflated surfer: current subjects dir: /home/Joe/study surfer: not in "scripts" dir ==> using cwd for session root surfer: session root data dir ($session) set to: surfer: /home/Joe/study surfer: Readin

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you send us the complete output in the tcl window (the one with the % prompt) On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, keepmoon wrote: > Dear Bruce and All, > > In my *View--Configure*there are three button which are activated > (*Light, caption and phase Encoded Dat Display*), without "*functional > ov

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread keepmoon
Dear Bruce and All, In my *View--Configure*there are three button which are activated (*Light, caption and phase Encoded Dat Display*), without "*functional overlay*" option. And in these activated buttons: light(light 0,...,light 3, with the value, 0.4, 0.0, 0.6, 0.2. and bright

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
have you tried changing the threshold in configure->functional overlay? What kind of values do you see? On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, keepmoon wrote: > Dear all experters, > >First I am appreciated for the help of Bruce. > I tried to following his instruction, but I still have some problem and I >

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-02 Thread keepmoon
Dear all experters, First I am appreciated for the help of Bruce. I tried to following his instruction, but I still have some problem and I can't show any result on the flated surface. I don't know whether my method to calculate the volume is wrong or I display it wrongly. Expecting som

Re: [Freesurfer] GM volume and cortical thickness

2010-02-01 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Joe, I think we output a volume measure for the gray matter as well - we simply multiple the thickness by the surface area. cheers Bruce On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, keepmoon wrote: > Dear developer, > > I want to compare the grey matter volume by VBM to cortical thickness > by freesurfer. But i

Re: [Freesurfer] GM-wm error

2009-12-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you send us the recon-all.log? On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Ritobrato Datta wrote: > Hello All, > > I ran recon-all for a subject and when I did the following to check the gray > matter and white matter segmentation I found that it couldnt do it. > > tkmedit subjid brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux T1.mgz

Re: [Freesurfer] GM-wm error

2009-12-07 Thread Douglas N Greve
Could be a problem with intensity normalization. Are the white matter voxels mostly 110 in the T1.mgz? Also, look at the nu.mgz. I've seen some problems where the nu_correct fails. Usually, this happens when there are a few extremely bright voxels. doug Ritobrato Datta wrote: > Hello All, > >

Re: [Freesurfer] GM & WM bitmaps; different from FAST(FSL)?

2009-12-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Julie, not sure what to say re FAST. They are different algorithms with the same goal, and so will generate somewhat different results. In general we find that the surface-based measures of cortex are more accurate than the voxel ones. cheers, Bruce On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Julie McEntee wr

Re: [Freesurfer] GM in ROIs

2009-03-31 Thread Bruce Fischl
mris_anatomical_stats -l On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Kelly Silva wrote: Hello,   Can I calculate GM in ROIs that I have done? How can I do that?   Thanks and regards, Kelly Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com__

RE: [Freesurfer] GM

2009-03-30 Thread ppj
Aseg.stat Sent from my Nokia phone @E71 -Original Message- From: Gabriel Go.Es. Sent: 30/03/2009 07:14:32 Subject: [Freesurfer] GM hello I want to use GM volume stats, i don't know whether it is or not, where? I had understood that FS does not calculate the total GM volume, how c

Re: [Freesurfer] GM

2009-03-27 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
I think you mean FreeSurfer? You can find this in aseg.stats inside stats directory in each subject. --- Pedro Paulo de M. Oliveira Junior Diretor de Operações Netfilter & SpeedComm Telecom --- Novo Netfilter 3.0 www.netfilter.com.br On Fri

Re: [Freesurfer] GM calculation?

2009-01-16 Thread Anthony
Hi Mike, Thanks for your reply . I'll give it a try. Anthony --- On Tue, 13/1/09, Michael Harms wrote: From: Michael Harms Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] GM calculation? To: slam_...@yahoo.com Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Date: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009, 9:28 PM Hi Anthony, For cor

Re: [Freesurfer] GM calculation?

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Harms
Hi Anthony, For cortical gray matter volume, compute statistics using the {lh,rh}.cortex.label file. i.e., mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -f $subj/stats/lh.cortex.stats $subj lh That will be roughly similar to computing the volume difference between the pial and white surfaces, except

Re: [Freesurfer] %GM, %WM, %CSF wrt ICV - including cerebellum

2007-02-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Juranek, Jenifer wrote: I'd like to compute %GM, %WM, %CSF wrt ICV (eTIV)...including cerebellum gray/white. Are the values returned by mris_wm_volume and mris_volume for cortical surfaces only (excluding cerebellum)? yes, just cortex, and cerebral wm. So, in this c

Re: [Freesurfer] GM segmentation

2006-11-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
HI Antionio can you send a tif showing what you mean? The control points will only help if the wm is darker there (which it frequently is) Brce On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Gallo, Antonio (NIH/NINDS) [F] wrote: Dear All, I have a question regarding the pial surface in medial temporal lobes since

Re: [Freesurfer] GM/WM surface normal direction

2006-01-18 Thread Bruce Fischl
p.s. thanks to Xiao Han for writing up a wiki page on this: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FreeSurferWiki/SurfaceNormal On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, XJ Kang wrote: Hi, Anywhere in the "surf" directory I can find the normal direction of each node on the GM/WM surface? Or anyway I can cal

Re: [Freesurfer] GM/WM surface normal direction

2006-01-18 Thread Doug Greve
I've also just modified mri_surf2surf to extract the surface normals at each vertex. You can get the new version from: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mri_surf2surf There's an example in the --help on how to run it. doug Bruce Fischl wrote: sure. You can co

Re: [Freesurfer] GM/WM surface normal direction

2006-01-18 Thread Bruce Fischl
sure. You can convert the surface into ascii with mris_convert or load it directly into matlab with read_surf. The normal is then the cross product of two of the legs of each triangle. Sorry, I don't remember the ordering but it should be obvious if you have it wrong. The indices of the vertices

Re: [Freesurfer] GM segmentation

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
?h.white and ?h.pial. The stuff between them is cortical gray matter. cheers, Bruce On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Campbell, Zeke (NIH/NINDS) wrote: Dear All: I would like to know which surface I should load on T1 volume to visualize cortical GM segmentation. Thanks. Zeke Campbell