Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-18 Thread Daniel Ferreira
External Email - Use Caution The image quality is quite good. GM and WM contrast is excellent. There are no scanning artifacts. The only remarkable finding is that this individual has moderate brain atrophy, enlarged ventricles, and large white matter signal abnormalities (hypointe

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-17 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
The first thing to do is to check your input data to make sure that something is not really wrong. Eg, a large artifact or unusual anatomy. On 1/17/19 5:35 AM, Daniel Ferreira wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Thanks Greve. Yes, I mean that the moveable is completely black. How

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-17 Thread Daniel Ferreira
External Email - Use Caution Thanks Greve. Yes, I mean that the moveable is completely black. How should I continue from here? If the registration is so far off that it is out of the field of view, what should I do next? Thanks Dani El mié., 16 ene. 2019 a las 22:54, Greve, Doug

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-16 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
when you say it does not load, do you mean that the moveable is blank/black? The terminal output indicates that it is being loaded. It is probably the case that the registration is so far off that it is out of the field of view On 1/16/19 11:30 AM, Daniel Ferreira wrote: > > External Em

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-16 Thread Daniel Ferreira
External Email - Use Caution Hi Greve, Thanks for your quick reply. I mean that tkregister2 loads the target volume (I think the original T1 it is) but it does not load the moveable volume as stated in https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach_freeview: "You

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Transform failure

2019-01-16 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
What do you mean that the tal volume does not load as a mov volume? Can you send the terminal output from tkregister2? On 1/16/19 10:01 AM, Daniel Ferreira wrote: External Email - Use Caution Dear Bruce, Martin, and experts, I posted an issue a few days ago. I have been looking throug

Re: [Freesurfer] "Talairach Transform: transforms/talairach.xfm ***FAILED***"

2016-09-14 Thread Uquillas, Federico D'Oleire
Hi Bruce, Thanks so much. So, how would I check if it actually failed or not? How would I turn off the checking? How would I manually correct it? Would running without it be essentially the same as turning off the checking (procedurally)? Best, Fred > On Sep 14, 2016, at 15:59, Bruce Fisch

Re: [Freesurfer] "Talairach Transform: transforms/talairach.xfm ***FAILED***"

2016-09-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Fred have you checked the transform to see if it actually failed? If not, you can just turn off the checking. If it did, you can manually correct it (or run without it) cheers Bruce On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Uquillas, Federico D'Oleire wrote: > Dear fellow FreeSurfer users, > > I can't get a su

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform/coordinates not present in mgz files and/or not shown in tkmedit

2012-07-01 Thread Bruce Fischl
not really, sorry. On Sun, 1 Jul 2012, Andrew R. Dykstra wrote: Thanks Bruce.  I'll give that a try.  But it seems strange to me that after processing different subjects with autorecon1 that the transform info would be missing from the header of some subjects but not others.  Can you think of an

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform/coordinates not present in mgz files and/or not shown in tkmedit

2012-07-01 Thread Andrew R. Dykstra
Thanks Bruce. I'll give that a try. But it seems strange to me that after processing different subjects with autorecon1 that the transform info would be missing from the header of some subjects but not others. Can you think of any reason why this might happen? Cheers, Andy On Sun, Jul 1, 2012

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform/coordinates not present in mgz files and/or not shown in tkmedit

2012-07-01 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Andrew try running: mri_add_xform_to_header -c \ $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm \ $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri/orig.mgz \ $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri/orig.mgz or whatever volume (instead of orig.mgz) you were viewing in tkmedit. This gets done automatically during the rec

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform issue; V 5.0

2011-12-24 Thread Nick Schmansky
addendum: i mistakenly said that talairach.xfm is used in the skull-strip stage... it is not. so beyond really bad talairach failures, the only critical reason to redo the talairach.xfm is if the ICV calculation (which itself is pretty rough) is valuable to you (for correcting volume stats by hea

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform issue; V 5.0

2011-12-24 Thread Nick Schmansky
Andy, I'll answer the last first: that error message (the one in ALL CAPS) can be ignored. It originates in the bowels of some fortran code in the VNL library we use. A real error detected at the level of our code would exit if there was a problem with the minimization. Per the talairach.xfm,

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform failure in 7T

2010-07-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Lena, no, not at this time. Sorry. Bruce On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Lena Palaniyappan wrote: Dear Bruce We are trying to obtain a good contrast in 7T for thickness measurements using freesurfer by piloting different sequences, is there anyway we can process the T2*s in the pipeline? On 08/07/20

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform failure in 7T

2010-07-08 Thread Lena Palaniyappan
Dear Bruce We are trying to obtain a good contrast in 7T for thickness measurements using freesurfer by piloting different sequences, is there anyway we can process the T2*s in the pipeline? On 08/07/2010 17:07, "Bruce Fischl" wrote: > Hi Lena, > > -notal-check will disable the error detectio

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform failure in 7T

2010-07-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Lena, -notal-check will disable the error detection, not the tal itself, so won't help in cases where the xform is truly wrong. The image you sent looks PD/T2* weighted, which won't work for the talairaching we use (or for many of our analysis steps).Do you have a T1-weighted image? cheer

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform failure in 7T

2010-07-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
well that certainly looks wrong. What does the original image look like? On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Lena Palaniyappan wrote: I am trying to reconstruct some 7T images but they repeatedly fail Talairach step The tkmedit displays normal coronal, sagittal positions for the target. If I use tkregister2 t

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform fails in autorecon1

2009-05-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Corey, something is very strange with that volume. Is it really only 77 slices? It doesn't show properly in tkmedit, which means that the direction cosines are probably messed up. The voxel sizes may be wrong too, as it looks very odd. Do you have dicoms for it? Bruce On Tue, 12 May 200

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform error

2008-08-18 Thread Nick Schmansky
Michelle, Which version of freesurfer is installed? I think the libg2c dependency was removed in the newest version. Nick On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 11:28 -0500, Michelle W. Voss wrote: > Hello, > > This is my first time trying to use freesurfer on our data. We > collect siemens dicom images, so I

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Bruce Fischl
get volume that you want your subject to match. Can you send your command line. Thanks, Jenni -Original Message- From: Jackie_rwth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:02 AM To: Bruce Fischl Cc: Jenni Pacheco; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer]

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Jackie_rwth
your command line. Thanks, Jenni -Original Message- From: Jackie_rwth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:02 AM To: Bruce Fischl Cc: Jenni Pacheco; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform Hi Bruce, Yes, I have renamed the T1.x

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Jenni Pacheco
d.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform Hi Bruce, Yes, I have renamed the T1.xfm to talairach.xfm and put it in mri/transforms dir, and also when I ran autorecon1 and put the - notalairach flag after fixing. Yes, I mean after fixing the tal transform. The orientation of the orig.mgz

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Jackie_rwth
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:02 AM To: Bruce Fischl Cc: Jenni Pacheco; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform Hi Bruce, Yes, I have renamed the T1.xfm to talairach.xfm and put it in mri/transforms dir, and also when I ran autorecon1 and pu

RE: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Jenni Pacheco
that you want your subject to match. Can you send your command line. Thanks, Jenni -Original Message- From: Jackie_rwth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:02 AM To: Bruce Fischl Cc: Jenni Pacheco; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach tran

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-05-01 Thread Jackie_rwth
Hi Bruce, Yes, I have renamed the T1.xfm to talairach.xfm and put it in mri/transforms dir, and also when I ran autorecon1 and put the - notalairach flag after fixing. Yes, I mean after fixing the tal transform. The orientation of the orig.mgz , T1.mgz, and brain.mgz are in another orietat

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-04-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Jackie, you need to rename the T1.xfm to be talairach.xfm and put it in the mri/transforms dir. When you say "after this step, the orientation of the target volume is mixed up" do you mean after applying the tal transform? The orientation of all the .mgz (e.g. orig.mgz, T1.mgz, brain.mgz)

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-04-30 Thread Jackie_rwth
Hi Jenni, The orig volume is in the correct orientation when I viewed it with tikmedit. But after I fixed the Talairach transform by using mri_convert T1.mgz T1.mnc , mritotal -protocol icbm T1.mnc T1.xfm.,(and I viewed it in tkregister2, which looks quite fine), then I ran recon-all -subjid

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach transform

2007-04-30 Thread Jenni Pacheco
Hi, I'm a little confused, so please correct me if I've made the wrong assumptions. It sounds like your problem is becuase your orig volume is in the wrong orientation when you view it in tkmedit (ie., the coronal view in tkmedit does not show a coronal view, but shows the sagital view). It

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform with brain.mgz

2005-12-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Lars, definitely trust your eyes more than the objective function! If the xforms are reasonable everything should work fine, but if you care about talairach averaging or coords for reporting you should adjust them. cheers, Bruce On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Lars M. Rimol wrote: Hi, We have 15 o

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform with brain.mgz

2005-12-09 Thread Jenni Pacheco
Hi Lars, You should be able to just move on with -autorecon2 as normal. The only need to re-do anything would be if your poor talairach caused some other step to be wrong (i.e., the skull strip failed or the normalization failed because the talairach was wrong). If those are fine, then continue

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform with brain.mgz as input file

2005-12-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
depends why you needed to improve the talairach. If it's just for reporting purposes and the filling/intensity normalization all worked fine then you don't need to. cheers, Bruce On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Lars M. Rimol wrote: Hi, After having redone mri_convert with an edited brain.mgz as input fil

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform problem

2005-09-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Michele, we typically use tkregister2 or the mni register program to fix it manually. cheers, Bruce On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Michele Perry wrote: I ran recon-all -stage1 -nomotioncor -subjid It exited with errors during mri_fill: mri_fill: could not find corpus callosum No such file or direc

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform problem

2005-09-07 Thread Doug Greve
I don't know why it failed, but you should try fixing it with tkregister2 --fstal --s then run with -notalairach given how bad it is, you might be better starting from scratch, in which case you should add --regheader to the cmd doug Michele Perry wrote: I ran recon-all -stage1 -nomotio

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform issues

2005-08-02 Thread Brian T. Quinn
the final objective function value is not a great indicator of failure of the talairaching procedure. it's a better indicator of success. if it is low(<.1), you can be confident it is correct. if it is high, that does not mean it is incorrect, but that you should check it. certain brains (with

Re: [Freesurfer] talairach transform issues

2005-08-02 Thread Doug Greve
Hi Tracy, I don't know what the problem could be, but you can always by-pass the automatic talairaching with manual with tkregister2. When you run recon-all just make sure to include -notalairach as the last option. doug Tracy Wang wrote: Hi All, It seems that my talairach transforms