Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-09 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
I have included a script to export these values to a spreadsheet http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/UserContributions/Scripts/ppaulo/excelICV-aseg 2008/9/4 Bruce Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > p.s. we probably do something similar to the "loose-fitting mask" as we > only use non-brain locatio

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
p.s. we probably do something similar to the "loose-fitting mask" as we only use non-brain locations that are reasonably close to brain (within 2 cm or so) On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Michael Harms wrote: It certainly is my read of the Buckner 2004 paper that they used skull- stripped brains in their

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
only because we had a different set of manually-generated ICV datasets and a different registration algorithm (the one used by the aseg) On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Michael Harms wrote: It certainly is my read of the Buckner 2004 paper that they used skull- stripped brains in their registration. Fr

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Harms
It certainly is my read of the Buckner 2004 paper that they used skull- stripped brains in their registration. >From the last paragraph of page 724: "Registration was driven by the brain as a loose-fitting mask was applied to exclude skull and extracranial features." What was the original motiva

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mike, the alignment whole head is used to determine the atlas scaling factor, which itself was computed using some manually generated ICV values. Did Randy use skull-stripped brains? I didn't remember that and would have thought that defeated the purpose since you'll strip the sulcal CSF as

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Harms
Now I've become confused. ICV is based on the determinant of talaiarach_with_skull.lta, for which the skull is not stripped. So, I've always assumed that basically everything -- wm, gm, csf, cerebellum, dura, AND skull tissue -- all "contribute" to the definition of the transform (using whatever

Re: [Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, that's correct. Bruce On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Jeff Sadino wrote: Hello, I am measuring the shrinkage of the limbic system over time for several subjects and need to know what is included in the ICV value in aseg.stats to do this. We are putting our raw scans into freesurfer without any ma

[Freesurfer] What is included in the ICV value

2008-09-03 Thread Jeff Sadino
Hello, I am measuring the shrinkage of the limbic system over time for several subjects and need to know what is included in the ICV value in aseg.stats to do this. We are putting our raw scans into freesurfer without any manual edits until after QA at the end. My understanding is that the b