Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
That is not what Bruce is suggesting. Try to register the post-op to the pre-op using bbregister. You can then map the pre-op surfaces to the post-op brain On 10/29/2014 01:58 PM, Pierre Mégevand wrote: > Unfortunately, our pre-implant MR was acquired with double-dose > gadolinium and we can't

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-29 Thread Pierre Mégevand
Unfortunately, our pre-implant MR was acquired with double-dose gadolinium and we can't seem to extract the pial surface from it. have you tried using bbregister to register post-op MRI with the pre-op surfaces? On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pierre M?gevand wrote: > Our usual method for electrode localiz

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-29 Thread Bruce Fischl
have you tried using bbregister to register post-op MRI with the pre-op surfaces? On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pierre Mégevand wrote: Our usual method for electrode localization remains in the patient's space: co-register post-op MR and CT with pre-op MR brainmask (our reference space) and snap electro

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-29 Thread Pierre Mégevand
Our usual method for electrode localization remains in the patient's space: co-register post-op MR and CT with pre-op MR brainmask (our reference space) and snap electrodes to patient's outer pial surface. My idea was: register the patient's (crappy) brainmask volume to the "Talairach" fsaverage v

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Marie Schaer
So what I don't get in your pipeline is how you'll register the post-op brain to fsaverage if you don't have any cortical surface in the post-op? If I were you, if you want precise registration that includes the sulci, I'd go with the white surface from the pre-op gadolinium scan. And if you ju

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Pierre Mégevand
You're right, we can't use the post-op surface because of the deformation caused by surgery and the electrode artifacts. Getting a surface right from the brainmask would be OK, if we can't get anything better, but the nice thing about using the fsaverage surface is that you can plot and compare el

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Marie Schaer
Hi Pierre, Tricky question. So you can't really use the post-op cortical surface for this participant, right? Otherwise I would simply use the outer smoothed pial for this subject directly, which would be much more similar to the pre-op than the outer surface from the fsaverage (?). Otherwise,

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Pierre Mégevand
Thanks Marie. Here is what I'm trying to do. In fact, all I need from LGI are the first few steps, until ?h.pial-outer-smoothed has been generated. I'm not actually interested in the local GI for fsaverage. Our intra-cranial electrode localization method relies on post-implant CT and MRI scans to

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
It does not surprise me that it fails on the fsaverage surface. I agree with Marie that it is not good idea to use LGI on fsaverage for anything. Definitely not its intended purpose. doug On 10/28/2014 03:06 PM, Marie Schaer wrote: > > Hi Pierre, > > I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to

Re: [Freesurfer] LGI fails for fsaverage

2014-10-28 Thread Marie Schaer
Hi Pierre, I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but it's true that LGI fails for fsaverage at the mris_fills step, where the volume looks "cut". It seems to be something in the properties of the fsaverage surfaces. Maybe Doug or Bruce have an idea where it comes from. But in any ca