Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
It's under review! In short, this is not a purely data driven approach. It's data + prior info on the anatomy of the tracts derived from a manually labeled set of subjects. The prior info is the anatomical segmentation labels that surround the tract. So the knowledge that the neuroanatomist w

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Anthony we are trying to get that piece of it published :) Hopefully soon! Bruce On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Anthony Dick wrote: Good points Bruce. I guess I am more worried about the people using it, who will not be as cautious for large datasets. Also--one thing that was a huge benefit for th

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anthony Dick
Good points Bruce. I guess I am more worried about the people using it, who will not be as cautious for large datasets. Also--one thing that was a huge benefit for the cortical parcellation was a quantification of the manual vs. automated parcellation differences, but this does not appear to be

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Anthony we included the tracts that we found that we could segment reliably, under the guidance of a trained neuroanatomist. Certainly we can only do as well as the information contained in the diffusion data, but we have found that we can automated what someone with neuroanatomical experti

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anthony Dick
Hello Anastasia, This just reinforces my point. Tracts #7 and #8 of that paper are the inferior longitudinal fasciculus and the inferior occipitofrontal fasciculus, respectively. But you have chosen to leave one out (incidentally, both appear in the Oishi atlas). Note that in this paper, the a

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Anthony - The labeling was done based on Wakana et al 2007. We did not include the IFOF exactly b/c of the controversy surrounding it. a.y On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Anthony Dick wrote: Hello all, Is there any atlas to which these tracs are referenced? For cortical anatomical boundaries there

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anthony Dick
Hello all, Is there any atlas to which these tracs are referenced? For cortical anatomical boundaries there is broad consensus and a published referenced atlas, which makes Freesurfer's automatic parcellation of cortical regions an excellent tool. But there is not (as is often assumed) as bro

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Seán Froudist Walsh
Hi Anastasia, Thanks for getting back to me and well done on making a very nice program. The first tracts I would like to have are the optic radiations, but there are others that would be nice to include: a three part arcuate fasiculus (a la Catani et al., 2005) rather than a 2 part one, Fornix, a

Re: [Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Seán - Which tracts do you want to add? Our existing tracts have been labeled on 33 healthy subjects. It's certainly possible to include new tracts in the atlas but someone has to do the labeling on the same or a similar set of subjects. a.y On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Seán Froudist Walsh wrote

[Freesurfer] Adding tracts to Tracula!

2011-06-15 Thread Seán Froudist Walsh
Hi FreeSurfing Gurus, I would like to add some new tracts to the Tracula pipeline using my own regions of interest. What would be the best way to do this? All the best and many thanks in advance, Seán ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harv