Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to get Freedos working on my LAN

On 11/2/2020 6:54 PM, Marv wrote: Freedos noob here. I've been running old Dos programs like Wordstar, Supercalc, etc. ok on Freedos for a couple of weeks. Now I'm trying to get it on my LAN so I can move files around easier. I'm using an ASRock N3150B-ITX (circa 2015) with an onboard ethernet

Re: [Freedos-user] Possible zoom metting?

On 11/7/2020 6:23 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Horrors, Jim: The get-together in late June was 9am US/Central, and the one in mid-August was 11am US/Central. That seemed to work well. That's 4 AM in Canberra! I'd rather sleep. Well, that's a general problem of having people literally all over

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

On 11/9/2020 7:35 AM, Marv wrote: I assume rtl8139 is a generic virtual driver and is the only choice for a virtual Realtek adapter. My actual network adapter identifies as a rtl8111/8168B. but says 8111GR on the chip. I realize my virtual installation isn't going to use my physical network b

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

On 11/11/2020 9:10 AM, Marv wrote: Ralf - I gave up on that motherboard with the onboard PCIe Realtek network adapter and picked up a circa 1999 Intel Pentium II machine with (2) Adaptec ANA-6911 PCI network adapter boards. I'm pretty sure I found the right NDIS drivers for them. It also has a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 installed on iMac (2011) - success but there are issues

On 11/11/2020 12:06 PM, Hollowone PL wrote: Hello everybody, I just joined this newsletter and I hope the community, I had a few tries with FreeDOS but mostly in the VM and mostly for the use cases that DOSBOX handles much better. None of these are related to my current deployment, which was

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 installed on iMac (2011) - success but there are issues

On 11/11/2020 12:06 PM, Hollowone PL wrote: My research will be mostly development and to test how I can switch from FreeDOS to long mode (64bit protected mode) but I cannot even use dev tools provided in packages as they often return DOS16/m exceptions and hang the computer out. With this

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS/16M (was: FreeDOS 1.2 installed on iMac (2011) - success but there are issues)

I am not sure if you guys all missed a previous post where I said I found a reference that there are issues with some SMM BIOS implementations, providing legacy USB support (for keyboard and mice) and software that is trying to switch in "long mode" (which also might be used by some memory mana

Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

On 11/14/2020 7:46 AM, tom ehlert wrote: Hallo Herr Marv, the windows 2000 boot.ini should work however it's complicated to advise when you keep this to yourself, including the resulting error. +1 Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.ava

Re: [Freedos-user] USB Floppy

On 11/15/2020 6:27 AM, Marv wrote: I was under the impression an external USB floppy wouldn't work under FreeDOS 1.3, but I just noticed my installation of FreeDOS 1.3 on a circa 2011 Gateway laptop with an external USB Chuanganzhuo floppy does work. I'm not sure what driver FreeDOS is using

Re: [Freedos-user] 2 printers on DOS

On 11/17/2020 8:42 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: I think you're an expert on DOS. Can you tell me if there is a way to get DOS to detect 2 printers on 2 different ports? It can only see 1 printer, the second is ignored. Sorry, but you are very light on real info here. What do you mean by "detect 2

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On 12/4/2020 10:42 AM, ZB wrote: Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD". This sounds rather insane to me, considering that MS-DOS/PC-DOS fit on 3 or 4 floppy disks. Just saying. There have been f

Re: [Freedos-user]  Re:  Re:  Re:  Re:  Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

On 12/7/2020 9:35 AM, Kai Ketelhut wrote: Ml -- Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Du solltest diesen Unsinn wirklich sein lassen. Das hilf weder Dir noch irgendwen anders. Ralf -- This email has been checked for virus

Re: [Freedos-user] install freedos on eeepc 1201NL

On 12/11/2020 9:55 AM, Joao Silva wrote: Hi! Trying to install Freedos 1.3 rc fullusb on a eeepc 1201NL but got a problem, can't find hdd with windows 10 installed. Could be because of the ntfs fat? Well, yes, that the drive is using NTFS (as is the default for any Windows since at least W

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1886, Issue 1

On 12/14/2020 10:30 PM, Daniel wrote: Package discussion idea. This is just a rough idea that is one possible way to go. Have a base cd that has just the items needed to get FreeDos running and maybe a few extras.  Then a script for creating a cd/dvd/usb image. Here is the general plan for t

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual get-together

On 12/16/2020 5:20 PM, Jim Hall wrote: I announced the virtual get-together here a few weeks beforehand, in several places: email list, website, Facebook, Twitter. For example, the website still shows the announcement from "2020-11-28 4:47pm" to say the virtual get-together will be "Sunday, Dec

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual get-together

On 12/16/2020 10:16 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Thanks, Jim: I announced the virtual get-together here a few weeks beforehand, in several places: email list, website, Facebook, Twitter. Of those, I exclusively use the mailing-list! Did you need more than two weeks' heads-up? I wasn't aware

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software

On 12/30/2020 12:28 PM, Ray Davison wrote: I will keep DOS running primarily for accounting and word-processing, because none of the "modern" apps have given me reason to change. However, I have about fifteen linear feet of software and third party books that I may have used but mostly acquire

Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?

On 1/2/2021 2:31 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Happy new year everybody :-) On BTTR, there is a thread about FDISK problems: It failed to work at all in one version and created overlapping partitions :-o in another version when tested in a rather normal context. If others have experienced similar probl

Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?

On 1/2/2021 9:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Actually both FDISK versions had the same maintainer and they are both several years old, so this is not a problem caused by somebody forking something ;-) Then why are there two different versions? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antiv

Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?

On 1/4/2021 7:02 AM, Bob Pryor wrote: Greg Did the gparted computer partition the CF card as GPT? I believe FreeDOS only recognizes MBR partitions. That is correct, but not necessarily the only potential issue... But after the reboot it comes back and asks again about partit

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

On 1/4/2021 11:42 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic: On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. O

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

On 1/5/2021 1:01 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I still have a problem, Jim: That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter much. As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer. That is physically-separate from my

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On 1/8/2021 8:28 AM, Šimon Dobeš wrote: Hello I want to ask if FREEDOS will run on Intel Pentium old-school PC from 2002 and if it will work properly if this pc have 256 mb of ram. I have a old IBM ThinkPad from 1998 and it is great computer. But it is not working. Where I can fix it? Well, a

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On 1/8/2021 11:46 PM, Šimon Dobeš wrote: OK I will try to explain more properly. I plugged in my Laptop. Pushed down the power button and nothing happened. I cleaned up and I did not found anything leaked or broken. I think there is a problem with power supply or some circuits. I will keep fin

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On 1/8/2021 11:54 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: Note that running a laptop with no battery is not necessarily a good idea - some laptops rely on the battery to act as a voltage regulator. Running a laptop without its aku pack is how I fried a RAM bank in my Toshiba T1100 a couple of years ago. I rea

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

On 1/9/2021 6:11 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Dear Jim: Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am US/Central*. That is 4 AM Monday, AEDT! As was mentioned before, it is pretty much impossible to find a time that works FOR EVERYONE. If we (Jim) would select a time that woul

Re: [Freedos-user] How to reinstall FreeDOS VBR?

On 1/27/2021 6:16 AM, Michał Dec wrote: Hello, I had FreeDOS as the only system on my CF card, but I had to scale down the FAT32 partition and make space for Gentoo Linux. After installing the other system, FreeDOS can't boot. Probably because the volume boot record was thrashed during the pa

Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti

On 1/27/2021 10:32 AM, dmccunney wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:00 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way.

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

On 1/28/2021 7:53 AM, Šimon Dobeš wrote: Oh. Um well. OK. What about installing windows nt3.51 on my system? What about it? It is another, completely self-standing OS, which doesn't have any relation to FreeDOS. Therefor, it would be off-topic here... ;-) Ralf -- This email has been chec

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

On 1/28/2021 9:22 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Bonaventura de'Vidovich composed on 2021-01-28 16:29 (UTC+0100): **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. Win95 is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.0 foundation. Win98SE is a desktop environment that lives on

Re: [Freedos-user] What is the FreeDOS fish?

On 2/7/2021 12:44 PM, Regan Russell wrote: I had always assumed that it was a whale because other operating systems are large and bloated and a whale would be irony. Well, I was never fond of that logo/mascot, so I usually refer to it as the "cross eyed pregnant super guppy"...😛 Ralf 😉

Re: [Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

And have you tried both another mouse and another mouse driver to determine that the problem is indeed with Cutemouse? On 2/12/2021 3:22 PM, ZB wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:54:33PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: Which hardware are you using My trusted Soyo-SiS mobo with Fellowes "Combo" mouse.

Re: [Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

On 2/12/2021 3:42 PM, ZB wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 03:35:13PM -0800, Ralf Quint wrote: And have you tried both another mouse and another mouse driver to determine that the problem is indeed with Cutemouse? The problem indeed seems to be in the Cutemouse, since without Cutemouse I see no

Re: [Freedos-user] History of Trackers

On 2/14/2021 9:11 AM, Ben Collver wrote: ... What does that all have to do with FreeDOS? Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@list

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

On 2/21/2021 9:37 AM, Geraldo Netto wrote: Hi folks! Is it still happening? Yes, we are on with 6 guys right now, just come on in... ;-) Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _

Re: [Freedos-user] num lock

On 3/3/2021 4:33 AM, Tomas By wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 13:24:32 +0100, ZB wrote: Did you try to google for "freedos numlock"? Not google, as I have no barge pole handy, but duckduckgo does not find that page. Better get a barge pole, because DuckDuckNoGo won't find jack **t... -- This e

Re: [Freedos-user] num lock

On 3/3/2021 11:43 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Did you try to google for "freedos numlock"? ... duckduckgo does not find that page. Better get a barge pole, because DuckDuckNoGo won't find jack **t... To join that little off-topic: Is there ANY search engine remaining which RESPECTS my search keywords

Re: [Freedos-user] FDISK 1.3.3

On 2/14/2021 6:30 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: Thanks, I hadn’t realized it was updated again. I updated the repo version to 1.3.3 on the repos. It won’t show up in the official repo web pages until the maintenance routine updates them late tonight. But it will be visible tomorrow at https://ww

Re: [Freedos-user] FDISK 1.3.3

On 3/3/2021 3:23 PM, Eric Auer wrote: Hi Ralf! After using FDISK (with described problems) and rebooting and then using FORMAT, you say you were unable to run the FDIMPLES tool to install further: Correct. Nor could I copy and extract any of the packages manually Your A: (and B: as mirror) we

[Freedos-user] 1.3RC3 Installation woes (was Re: FDISK 1.3.3)

Just for the record, I end up in the same loop (Unable to find installation packages) when I do the same steps with the Live CD version of 1.3RC3 and select "install to harddisk". Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Freedos-user] 1.3RC3 Installation woes (was Re: FDISK 1.3.3)

Sorry for a late reply, but I am off and on busy with RL stuff right now, so I have only a few minutes here and there... When actually trying to use the LiveCD feature, the boot process craps out with ERROR: Unable to initialize CD-ROM drive after trying to load UDVD2 (3-05-2015). This is on

Re: [Freedos-user] FDISK 1.3.3

On 3/4/2021 5:21 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Hi Jerome, just wondering, does your ISO use the newest UDVD2 driver from http://mercurycoding.com/downloads.html#DOS ? Note that the readme in those downloads might need some double- checking, but as far as I remember, the binaries are fresh. All the same

Re: [Freedos-user] 1.3RC3 Installation woes (was Re: FDISK 1.3.3)

On 3/4/2021 11:20 AM, tom ehlert wrote: ERROR: Unable to initialize CD-ROM drive after trying to load UDVD2 (3-05-2015). of course it would be cool to read the error message form UDVD2 itself, otherwise "ERROR:bla" is not very helpful ;<<< Well, I doubt that there is anything else useful in th

Re: [Freedos-user] 1.3RC3 Installation woes (was Re: FDISK 1.3.3)

On 3/4/2021 12:36 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Ralf Quint <mailto:freedos...@gmail.com>> wrote: [..] Yes, I can fix this problem myself, that is not the issue. It is that this all seems to trip potential new users right at the start. From what I recall (an

Re: [Freedos-user] 1.3RC3 Installation woes (was Re: FDISK 1.3.3)

On 3/4/2021 3:02 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Ralf Quint <mailto:freedos...@gmail.com>> wrote: [..] I don't see how this would prevent the transfer of boot record, kernel, command.com <http://command.com/> and a basic config.sys&autoexec,bat

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos on Intel Atom and a TV

On 3/6/2021 6:41 AM, Pingüino Exe wrote: Hi Well, for starters, I don't even know if this is the right place to ask but here goes nothing. I got this tower that works with Intel Atom. To get the image and sound I connected it to my tv, a samsung smart TV, vía VGA to HDMI. It works wonderfull

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On 3/29/2021 12:39 PM, tom ehlert wrote: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/red-hat-withdraws-from-the-stallman-led-free-software-foundation/ maybe it's time to show the FSF the middle finger, too? Tom I'm in.. Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus softwa

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On 3/29/2021 6:00 PM, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: Jim, ... And what you are saying is? Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On 3/30/2021 6:51 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Rugxulo, Honestly, he's been known as "very eccentric" for many years. I don't think anybody is surprised. He has opinions and voices them (whether unpopular or not). You know what they say about opinions, right? Everyone has one. Well, I happen to l

Re: [Freedos-user] 1-2-3 rows and columns before SVGA text modes

On 3/31/2021 7:54 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On 3/31/2021 4:35 PM, Liam Proven wrote: It appears that someone here does not fully and properly understand this issue, and it is you, Ralf. Sorry but no, it is YOU (and some others). Just read the original letter from the MIT student that started all of this (Yes, you still can find this afte

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU General Public License...

On 4/8/2021 4:40 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Michael, The license MUST be viral. Folks, anyone who complains about it being viral doesn't understand it at all. Google is a monopoly. Google Sorry, but the arguments you make do not even begin to make any sense at all. You are basically just strin

Re: [Freedos-user] CTMouse Buttons programming?

On 4/9/2021 11:28 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: Hi Eric, thanks for responding. I have a (normal) two button mouse and want to change the behaviour of a mouse button to act as if I pressed the »CONTROL« key on the keyboard. Use case: A DOS application where the mouse acts as a pointer without the nee

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU General Public License...

On 4/9/2021 4:31 AM, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: I'm sorry Ralf, when did I actively characterize Richard Stallman alone as God's gift to the problem of software monopolies and hardware monopolies etcetera?  That doesn't seem to be a respectful thing to push concerning Richard Stallman

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNet package license problems

On 4/11/2021 5:54 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Michael: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/fdnet.html FDNET is being distributed under GP

Re: [Freedos-user] Recovery of a file on a non booting Windows computer

On 4/14/2021 5:19 AM, Stephanos wrote: Dear All I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM.  Then I want to insert a memory stick into the computer and copy a file from the Windows HDD onto the memory stick.  Is this possible and if so which version of freeDOS do I use? If you are talking about

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/13/2021 11:39 AM, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: I am fully aware that BIOS used to be updated in MS-DOS.  I am 41 years old, older than some people who seem to be experts on this and probably older than Liam. Well, Michael, I have still another 20 years on you (and working with compu

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/14/2021 8:09 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: Am 14.04.2021 um 16:57 schrieb Tomas By : On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:25:37 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote: [...] USB Stick on a FreeDOS [...] This is absolutely crucial to me, otherwise how would I be able to get something out or in to the computer?? By dual-bo

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/14/2021 8:44 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: UEFI Version AD2559B-ITX P1.40 CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz Processor Speed: 1865MHz I don’t use at Boot the „UEFI“, but USB- „Flash“ Disk… That will definitely not work, you can't boot a FreeDOS install/system with UEFI. You need to use

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/14/2021 8:54 AM, Liam Proven wrote: Reality is, Windows 95 dos and Windows 98SE DOS is not really dos per se Wrong. Actually, in that part, Michael was correct. And as people like you seem to pushing that old myth of "Windows 9x runs on top of DOS", one of my next projects when I find

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/14/2021 9:30 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: Eric, Tomas, thanks for this helpful info! If installing Linux helps to get my files out of FreeDos (hm… „free my files!!“ - or is it a "Lockdown-Dos“?), I will do. You do not have to "install" Linux. Just use a Live CD (my suggestion is still Linux Mint

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

On 4/14/2021 11:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:11, Ralf Quint wrote: Windows 95A uses MS-DOS 7, which it is possible to boot directly into by editing the MSDOS.SYS file (which in this version is a configuration file, not a binary as in older versions.) Win95B and later

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On 4/17/2021 3:39 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Liam, hello Tom, And according to the mainstream account (?), CP/M-86 would not be released until late 1981.  QDOS was released earlier, in mid-1980 (https://archive.org/stream/byte-magazine-1980-08/1980_08_BYTE_05-08_The_Forth_Language#page/n173/mode/

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On 4/17/2021 10:23 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Ralf, The "CALL 5" equivalent was never properly implemented, I guess Peterson ran into problems with the differences of the 8080 and 8086 CPUs. [...] And you will have a hard time to find any serious documentation on that CALL 5 stuff for any ver

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On 4/18/2021 4:58 AM, Liam Proven wrote: The next impolite email I receive from you will result in a block. Ditto for Ehlert. This will not inconvenience you, but unless you actively like attacking strangers on the internet who are trying to offer help, guidance and advice free of charge, _modif

Re: [Freedos-user] HP 2133

On 4/18/2021 8:05 AM, Marcolino Zona wrote: Well, i understand. In that case, do you have any linux distribution suggestions for this low-end CPU and GPU??? I have used on a fairly similar older HP laptop a distro called Q4OS https://q4os.org/ Ralf -- This email has been checked for viru

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/18/2021 9:27 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Hi! I never managed to install Freedos on a harddisk via the “live CD 1.3” or 1.2 version (image). There are two problems: 1. where the installer expects the packages in terms of drive letters and 2. whether you can partition the disk to create a primary

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/18/2021 8:29 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: • I never managed to install Freedos on a harddisk via the “live CD 1.3” or 1.2 version (image). All of them just stopped in telling me “packages not found”. (For whatever reason. I gave up after some googleing and saw other people had encounter

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/18/2021 4:51 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Felix: I define printer quality by whether it includes Epson directly or by emulation. I don't buy Epson, because it only makes inkjet printers. I buy Brother lasers due to speed, to decent Linux support, and to Epson FX-850 emulation available if

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/19/2021 4:41 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: On Sun,20210418- week15, at 22:33, Ralf Quint <mailto:freedos...@gmail.com>> wrote: expect that you don't have to do a few things in a more manual way This is correct; but it is for me also a learning process (=read: discovery etc.) i

Re: [Freedos-user] Clear your calendar!

On 4/20/2021 2:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: Clear your calendar and get ready! FreeDOS 1.3-RC4 is only days away. RC4 is in it’s final stage of testing and tweaking. There are loads of changes. Possibly more changes from RC3-RC4 than there was going from 1.2 to 1.3-RC1. :-) Looking forward

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

On 4/20/2021 7:59 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: If using a USB keyboard (and USB mouse), there is the problem that when starting the USB driver (USBUHCI from Bret Johnsons USButils collection), the Keyboard stops working. So you can’t start the keyboard driver next, which seems should done to get so

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB / deprecate or improve PRINT queue tools?

On 4/20/2021 8:24 AM, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user wrote: I believe you have to install DOS USB drivers first. It's worse than that. I've tried to get many different printers working under Linux (which generally has pretty good hardware support) and it turns out that a lot of manufacturers cut

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/22/2021 3:21 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: There are many different reasons why people would want to install FreeDOS (if they get to know it). „ Different" like in „different people“. The needs and equipments are different and the mixture of technical generations should not restrain FreeDOS, IMHO

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/23/2021 1:44 PM, Thomas Desi wrote: Hi Ralf, good to focus on the “whys”. You said: | “Nor would I do any graphics work in DOS, or any word | processing these days.” I did get into DOS because of “word processing”. More precisely it is a text-processing tool(!) EVA.EXE which was develop

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On 4/25/2021 10:43 PM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Ralf, Still an excellent tool I consider TROFF, now GROFF, for Unix/Linux -which also exists for Windows, appeared in 1990 (Version 0.3.1) by James Clark) coming from  “a text-formatting program called RUNOFF, which was written by Jerome H. Saltzer fo

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

On 4/26/2021 1:53 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: roven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven I think it might be possible to extraxt a self-extracting archive under DOS or other OS with UNZIP. But I see Linux Archive Manager did it for you. 7Zip does it most likely as well... RAlf -- This ema

Re: [Freedos-user] problems with FreeDOS 1.3RC....

On 4/29/2021 12:30 PM, Glenn McCorkle wrote: Houston, we have a problem. re: FreeDOS 1.3RC Downloaded https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc3/FD13-LiveCD.zip I don't have any blank CDs so burned the ISO onto a DVD+RW disc That won't work, n

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

On 5/15/2021 4:56 AM, Eric Auer wrote: I had worried that the DOS machine on my network, would give easy access from the Internet for gremlins! Because DOS normally does not run any servers, there is not much which the gremlins could access. So it depends on which servers you manually start on

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Related source code

On 5/20/2021 10:23 AM, Tomas By wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2021 19:16:11 +0200, Eric Auer wrote: Are there any good lists of DOS software available (or that used to be available)? I guess you mean commercial software, not just this? Or at least shareware, freeware etc.? All old stuff? [...] Also v

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Related source code

On 5/20/2021 11:34 AM, Tomas By wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2021 20:17:55 +0200, Ralf Quint wrote: Also vetusware.com, winworldpc.com None of those do actually have any DOS "SOURCE CODE"... Hmm, ok, but was that really what OP meant? "DOS related source code" is rather unambig

Re: [Freedos-user] FAT12

On 5/25/2021 2:53 PM, Daniel Sears wrote: I've installed FreeDOS 1.3-RC4 with FD13LITE.img on a 4GB USB drive. This works and I can boot it just fine, but the primary partition uses FAT12 and is 97% full. I would like to expand this partition with gparted, but that no longer supports FAT12. Can

Re: [Freedos-user] FAT12

On 5/25/2021 7:00 PM, Michał Dec wrote: FAT12 sucks. The smallest pendrive I saw was 128MB and that was 18 years ago which is still 4x the size of FAT12's limit. Here's how you can force the installer to use an existing FAT16/FAT32 filesystem. This procedure will cause the installer to detect

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

On 5/26/2021 1:45 PM, Kelley McChesney wrote: Hi Eric, I've actually been trying DHCP, which seems to be fine. I tried your recommendations and tested both my router's gateway as a nameserver and checked what my host computer was using. Unfortunately, my host computer was using the same server

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

On 5/26/2021 8:04 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: Hi - I'm the author of mTCP. mTCP is shipped with FreeDOS but it is an independent project. Please check the PDF, specifically the section on debugging.  I'd like to see a trace from your system when you are using a bridged Ethernet connection.  Us

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

On 5/26/2021 10:17 PM, Kelley McChesney wrote: Hi Michael, I went through the instructions to enable debugging and pinged www.brutman.com . I have attached my MTCP config file and the trace.txt file for you. Thank you for looking at this. Just had a look at that log file

Re: [Freedos-user] FAT12

On 5/26/2021 3:38 PM, Daniel Sears wrote: In the end I created a second partition and put my payload file there. That worked, but before that I tried to extend the FAT12 partition with gparted but my copy (from Ubuntu 21.04) objected and said that FAT12 is no longer supported. The Wikipedia pag

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

On 5/27/2021 12:06 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: Ralf: Traceroute is interesting, and it's on the todo list.  This is more equivalent to a TCPDUMP trace. Yeah, that would be really helpful. As I mentioned, ping (without any such logging enabled) isn't really a diagnostic tool. It just tells you

Re: [Freedos-user] GUI libs: Turbovision and FLTK (nanox), Dillo browser

On 6/3/2021 9:11 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user wrote: I decided to make a small research, and found these libraries suggested to someone: Turbovision: "TVision was developed by Borland (now Imprise) in 1992 (v1.03) as a tool for your TurboC and TurboPascal compilers." "Turbo Vision (TVi

Re: [Freedos-user] Clairifcation on USB drives.

On 6/7/2021 7:19 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: Hi, yes, same with me. I only wonder if there is a logic in which USB slot comes first. (I have two USB slots on top of my machine, and it is always the "left" of those two, which then becomes C:, and the other D: Anyone has an idea if USB ports have a s

Re: [Freedos-user] game compatibility CD/DVD drivers: comparing UDVD2 to OAKCDROM and DOSBOX

On 6/8/2021 9:18 AM, Jim Hall wrote: This is an interesting analysis and comparison between Oak Technology's OAKCDROM (proprietary) and Jack's UDVD2 (free with sources). Have you shared this with Jack? I think he would want to see this so he can improve compatibility in his driver. Are you sur

Re: [Freedos-user] Print

On 6/20/2021 7:06 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: If you have mapped LPT2 to the network printer then you *must* print to LPT2. Sending to PRN or LPT1 won't do anything because there's no device there. I will henceforth direct printing to PRN. The easy way to print to any port is just to copy or e

Re: [Freedos-user] Print

On 6/20/2021 9:02 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: Thanks, Ralf: If you have mapped LPT2 to the network printer then you *must* print to LPT2. Sending to PRN or LPT1 won't do anything because there's no device there. I will henceforth direct printing to PRN. On the FreeDOS PC, in C:\MSNET>, I have

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Upgrading the BIOS with FreeDOS

On 6/28/2021 11:42 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user wrote: >https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-ca/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=tjgkp&oscode=w764&productcode=optiplex-3020m-desktop

Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOSers Monthly Reminder

On 8/1/2021 2:05 AM, David Gifford Sr. via Freedos-user wrote: Great, back in Kindergarten. I haven't seen any problems. You just come out and get all butt hurt about nothing?  Get a life. There no swearing yet. Don't want you to $hiit yr pants. Looks like you need to get back into Kindergart

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

On 10/1/2021 6:58 AM, Harry wrote: Hello Eric, thanks for the continued help! I booted the PC with FD13LGCY.iso (CD-ROM) and afterwards selected "No - return to DOS" A:\>MKEYB SG (and hit enter) Bad command or filename "MKEYB" Am I doing something wrong? You probably don't have a proper P

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder reminder?

On 11/1/2021 7:24 AM, Jim Hall wrote: Interesting. So far, Eric, Bryan, Angel, and Bonaventure received multiple copies (I'm assuming 3 for freedos-user and 3 for freedos-devel?) but I only received one. Any Gmail users out there who received multiple copies? My email is hosted by Gmail - I

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder reminder?

On 11/1/2021 2:12 PM, John Price wrote: Looks like my server had a hard time delivering to the mailing list. Attempted 6 times. Mystery solved. :) 😉 Thanks for checking! Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS virtual get-together this weekend (social time!)

On 11/17/2021 2:32 PM, Jim Hall wrote: Hi everyone! Every month, we do a virtual get-together. It's a great opportunity to see each other "in person" and get to know each other a little better. The virtual get-togethers are on the third Sunday every month. And that's this coming Sunday, 21 N

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

On 12/24/2021 4:48 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: The comment against open-source DOS is at the end of this discussion. See after 26 minutes. https://youtu.be/Opqgwn8TdlM I really wonder how that would effect DOS, after all there is no web interface, nor any Java in (Free)DOS. So (without having w

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