HI Eric,
just to let you know (isn’t a question, just an observation for a nice feature)
on my HP Think Client AND on my Mini ITX, both can do (without any tweaking or
stuff):
1. Plug in 2 USB Sticks (one has the bootable FreeDOS on it)
both are FAT formated (FAT)
2. boot into FreeDOS from US
Hi Thomas,
> I just found a recipe regarding USB-Sticks & MS-DOS.
> SOURCE: https://slomkowski.eu/retrocomputing/usb-mass-storage-on-ms-dos/
Well, the old USBASPI drivers might work for you, yes.
Or those by Bret Johnson. Or those by Georg Potthast:
http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/
The gener
I just found a recipe regarding USB-Sticks & MS-DOS.
It says „...Although DOS lacks built-in USB support, some unofficial drivers
are available. They leverage the fact that USB mass storage uses SCSI command
set. SCSI hard drives were readily available during golden years of MS-DOS. The
USB driv
Hi Stephanos,
> Dell ... looked at the problem and confirmed that:
> 1) there is no BIOS update offered for my laptop, N5030
> 2) that the BIOs update that I was using is for model M5030,
> which has an AMD processor. Mine has an Intel processor
That explains a lot!
> 3) they are not going to
Dear All
Dell offer an 0800 number in the UK to receive technical assistance. I
rang it. They looked at the problem and confirmed that:
1) there is no BIOS update offered for my laptop, N5030
2) that the BIOs update that I was using is for model M5030, which has
an AMD processor. Mine has an
On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 15:57, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
wrote:
>
> Probably many of these don't apply to FreeDOS. The boot menu (where
> you saw the FDOS option) I think at least gives you the option of
> pressing F8 to toggle single-stepping, which will ask you to answer yes
> or no for each
Hi Stephanos,
> Regarding the F5 suggestion. This was not possible. With the memory
> stick in the USB port and after turning the laptop on, even while
> pressing F5 constantly the memory stick boots just the same, to the user
> menu. If I continue to press F5 constantly when I select fdos ther
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 12:13, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>
> You should have done like Liam tells you from the beginning.
Thank you! :-)
> He provides
> correct, detailed and verified steps. The operation is as simple as
> booting DOS from a removable drive (CD/floppy/USB) to run a single
> executable
Dear Adam
Thanks for the suggestions.
I agree that Dell are good at only showing the right drivers for a
specific Service Tag. Which is what has confused me. They show 2 BIOS
files and label each as for different models, M5030 and N5031 but each
has the note "This PC".
I went back into the BI
> I booted the stick, was a bit confused as to why freedos did not do
> anything and fdos was the option, and found the BIOS file in drive C:\.
> I ran it. It looked promising, but alas, alack, no.
> -Start to flash ……. [ Y / N]: Y
> - Error: Problem getting flash information
> C:\>
>
> I wen
On 10/04/2021 14:26, Stephanos wrote:
I booted the stick, was a bit confused as to why freedos did not do
anything and fdos was the option, and found the BIOS file in drive C:\.
I ran it. It looked promising, but alas, alack, no.
-Start to flash ……. [ Y / N]: Y
- Error: Problem getting flash i
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:26:30 +0200, Stephanos wrote:
> [...] I ran it. It looked promising, but alas, alack, no.
> -Start to flash ……. [ Y / N]: Y
> - Error: Problem getting flash information
> [...]
> I then tried Tomas’ suggestion: “start a shell (command window) as
> administrator (important)
Greetings one and all, here is an update
I followed the instructions on the Dell website:
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000131486/update-the-dell-bios-in-a-linux-or-ubuntu-environment#UpdateBIOS
At first the instruction about copying the BIOS file to the USB storage
device confused me
Hi!
> OK, and thanks to all. I have now read the Dell website about updating
> from within Linux and noted the fact that I should use FreeDOS base 1.0
Or newer, I guess.
> Although the upgrade will not give me Virtualisation, I have another
> reason for continuing with upgrading the BIOS. It
Hi,
Ok, one more thing you can try is to start a shell (command window) as
aministrator (important) and then run the exe from there. If that just
fails silently then you probably have the wrong bios file.
I checked your previous msg again, and it sounds like you have not yet
managed to boot Freed
Dear Tomas
Thanks for the reminder.
Yes. After installation of 7 from DVD I did not make a user account,
nor set a password for the default admin account. The laptop is not
connected to the internet. I copied the bios file from my PC to the
laptop via the memory stick, which only had that fil
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:08:58 +0200, Stephanos wrote:
> Wait to hear
Did you try running it from Win 7 as administrator?
Or just boot the stick and run the .EXE. I'm sure you can do it.
/Tomas
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Dear All
OK, and thanks to all. I have now read the Dell website about updating
from within Linux and noted the fact that I should use FreeDOS base 1.0
etc. I should just say this laptop is about 11 years old and the F12
boot option does not include updating the BIOS. What come as a surprise
i
On 09/04/2021 23:50, Stephanos wrote:
So I decided that it was slightly easier to put back Windows 7.
I used gparted to wipe the HDD (...)
I booted into the BIOS and the version was the same A02.
I rebooted back into Windows 7
You should have done like Liam tells you from the beginning. He prov
> Full spec of laptop here:
https://www.comx-computers.co.za/laptop-specification-sheet.php?laptop=40065
The CPU is listed as a Pentium T4500, which is a processor from 2010-ish using
the Penryn-L microarchitecture.
Intel processors in that market segment didn't have virtualization support
feat
> I have an unusual situation. My Dell laptop has Linux on it, I want to
> use VirtuaBox (a tool I have used many times before on other laptops and
> PCs) but the BIOS does not support Virtualisation. An upgrade to the
> BIOS might so I want to upgrade the BIOS. Dell supply the BIOS upgrade
> in
> Is there a reason why no such almost trivial thing exists?
both for windows and linux, less then 500 MB?
Two reasons:
1) Because a standard system utility for disk imaging exists on Linux (or any
other Unix-like, for that matter), which has been around since before Linux, or
even DOS was aro
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 23:50:53 +0200, Stephanos wrote:
> So I decided that it was slightly easier to put back Windows 7.
> [...] I copied the BIOS update version A05 file onto the HDD.
> I executed it with a double click. I got the usual messages about
> closing all other programmes. I clicked OK. No
Now that we have clarified that the BIOS update tool can be
used with either Windows or DOS...
>> get a copy of RUFUS for Linux.
> https://www.how2shout.com/tools/rufus-for-linux-not-available-use-these-best-alternatives.html
Those tools are mostly for making bootable USB sticks from
ISO image
Liam,
>> it's not. I know. but it's a file format that can transport both a DOS
>> and Windows executable in the same file.
> This is not correct. In fact this tech was possible before Windows 3.0
> even launched; it was called a "family app" or "family mode".
probabaly it's a bit of hair splitt
Dear All
Thank you all for the contributions. I think we have reached the end.
First let me mention that the BIOS version mentioned in the BIOS is A02.
The later version is A05 and found here.
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/product-support/servicetag/0-YXhUR091TFhQWVdkR0VXeUY0cTREQT09
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 23:36, tom ehlert wrote:
> it's not. I know. but it's a file format that can transport both a DOS
> and Windows executable in the same file.
This is not correct. In fact this tech was possible before Windows 3.0
even launched; it was called a "family app" or "family mode".
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:42, Stephanos wrote:
> 1) I have WINE on my laptop and run several MS applications. Is it safe
> to treat the BIOS upgrade file as an application and run it in WINE?
OMG *no!* Do not even try. It is _extremely_ unlikely to work, but if
it does, it is extremely likely to
Liam,
>> It is safe but will not solve your problem. The BIOS updater .EXE is a
>> Windows program, and will only run on Windows.
> Tom, do not guess. Check, be sure, before you post.
> Here is the BIOS update:
> https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=r281635&lw
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:39, Michael Christopher Robinson
wrote:
>
> Some version of Windows is what Dell expects him to have to update his BIOS,
> that's where that came in.
No, it doesn't, and you are wrong. PLEASE stop giving ill-informed,
bad and dangerous advice.
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:06, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi! I do not understand where Windows and ReactOS are
> getting into the equation here. If you have Linux, you
> can search in your software center whether you find an
> app to install BIOS updates.
The `fwupgmgr` tool does exist, but I find it d
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 15:31, Stephanos wrote:
>
> I have used ReactOS in a virtual environment.
To attempt to use an unfinished reverse-engineered clone of Windows to
install a firmware upgrade is tantamount to suicide. You are
positively asking for it to go wrong and corrupt your BIOS chip,
turn
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 21:41, tom ehlert wrote:
> It is safe but will not solve your problem. The BIOS updater .EXE is a
> Windows program, and will only run on Windows.
Tom, do not guess. Check, be sure, before you post.
Here is the BIOS update:
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/
Hallo Herr Eric Auer,
am Freitag, 9. April 2021 um 18:04 schrieben Sie:
> Hi Stephanos,
>> 1) I have WINE on my laptop and run several MS applications. Is it safe
>> to treat the BIOS upgrade file as an application and run it in WINE?
> That will not help. Wine can run Windows apps, but you w
Hi Stephanos,
> 1) I have WINE on my laptop and run several MS applications. Is it safe
> to treat the BIOS upgrade file as an application and run it in WINE?
That will not help. Wine can run Windows apps, but you want to update
the BIOS in your real hardware, not inside a Wine window on Linux.
Hi Michael,
so if I understand correctly, he has both DOS and Windows
versions of the update tool. I would NOT recommend to run
any of those in a virtual environment like DOSBOX and hope
to have any effect on the actual hardware. So indeed, to
use the DOS BIOS update tool, booting FreeDOS on the
need help
getting the BIOS updated ;-)
-
From: "Stephanos"
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 9 2021 8:31:31AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive
Blimey you two, I have been bombarded with l
lexity is hidden, you must set up DOSBOX
correctly before it becomes this easy.
-From: "Eric Auer"
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 9 2021 10:06:50AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical
1AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive
Blimey you two, I have been bombarded with lots of info and
questions.
Here goes:
Full spec of laptop here:
https://www.comx-computers.co.za/laptop-specification-sheet.php?laptop=40065
/>
I have used ReactOS in a virtual envi
Got it, some end of the 32 bit era early 64 bit era laptop is what you
have then. Interesting. Kubuntu 18.04, that is very current. It's okay
if you don't have Zip or LS120 handy, I wouldn't go get one. So you
have an external and internal CD burner that works, and I imagine you
have some media as
Hi! I do not understand where Windows and ReactOS are
getting into the equation here. If you have Linux, you
can search in your software center whether you find an
app to install BIOS updates. If you have some DOS tool
for that, you should run DOS for the tool, not Windows.
As your update is mor
Dear both again
I should also say that
1) the BIOS upgrade file size is 1950KB
2) I have an external floppy drive but might not have floppies, I will
search
3) I have an external USB CD/DVD reader/writer, that usually needs both
of its 2 USB cables to power it when burning
4) There is some sort o
Blimey you two, I have been bombarded with lots of info and questions.
Here goes:
Full spec of laptop here:
https://www.comx-computers.co.za/laptop-specification-sheet.php?laptop=40065
I have used ReactOS in a virtual environment. So I have downloaded the
live CD ISO burnt it to a DVD and boote
A couple of questions, what model DELL laptop are you trying to update
the BIOS on? What level of Windows or even MSDOS for that matter was
the laptop originally designed to run? Clearly, this laptop has some
USB so I'm guessing those are probably two USB 1.1 ports and I'm
thinking the laptop is so
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:31, Stephanos wrote:
>
> Dear Liam
>
> Thanks for that. A little more info please
> 1) Which of the six options at the website
> (https://www.freedos.org/download/) are you suggesting I download.
I have used FreeDOS 1.0 for this in the past. All you need is to boot
the c
Ditch the memory stick even if you can do this from inside DOSBOX
directly on top of Linux. It's worth a shot even if you have to swap
in MS-DOS 6.22 temporarily or Windows 98SE DOS prompt temporarily in
DOSBOX. If you can do this from within DOSBOX, you don't have to go
get any media you may not a
Dear Liam
Thanks for that. A little more info please
1) Which of the six options at the website
(https://www.freedos.org/download/) are you suggesting I download. It
is not possible to relate "FreeDOS 1.0..." to any of them.
2) Regarding "Boot, use F5 or Shift to bypass CONFIG.SYS/AUTOEXEC.BAT"
os-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 9 2021 6:22:06AM
Subject: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive
Dear All
I have an unusual situation. My Dell laptop has Linux on it, I want
to
use VirtuaBox (a tool I have used many times before on other laptops
and
PCs) but
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 13:22, Stephanos wrote:
> 1) Download one of the ISO files
Fine
> 2) Make a CD bootable
What... why?
> 3) Write my BIOS upgrade file to the memory stick
> Then insert the CD into the laptop and
> a) boot the laptop into DOS
> b) Insert the memory stick and navigate to th
Dear All
I have an unusual situation. My Dell laptop has Linux on it, I want to
use VirtuaBox (a tool I have used many times before on other laptops and
PCs) but the BIOS does not support Virtualisation. An upgrade to the
BIOS might so I want to upgrade the BIOS. Dell supply the BIOS upgrade
i
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