Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2023-10-28 Thread Aitor SantamarĂ­a via Freedos-user
Hello Eric, You are right. In Spanish it happens the same, and I assume in many other keyboard distributions out there. So, closed case. If someone wants R-ALt to act like L-Alt, maybe they can try the KEYB trick and let us know. Aitor On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 at 21:07, Eric Auer via Freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2023-10-28 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Aitor, I would assume that right alt DELIBERATELY does not act like a generic ALT key in EDIT: In German, for example, you need that right "Alt Gr" key for some accented characters, so it must not act as a function shift key. I remember not being able to use some other editor exactly because

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2023-10-28 Thread Aitor SantamarĂ­a via Freedos-user
Hello, Sounds like it could be a bug in Edit, I'll see about it when I have a little time. Now for the original question: is it possible to make R-Alt work like L-Alt? It should be possible to do that with FD-KEYB.The idea is to intercept Right-Alt and then emit Left-Alt, and get back to the BIOS

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread John Hupp
And if you are the Bret Johnson of http://bretjohnson.us/ then I'm sure you do have the skills! On 3/8/2016 2:08 PM, John Hupp wrote: > @ Bret: Perhaps you have the skills to offer a fix for EDIT, or can > convince the current developers to do so! --

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread John Hupp
The default FreeDOS 1.1 installation does not load KEYB for a US keyboard (nor do I have it loaded). CHCP reports Code Page 858, as expected. And as I reported in my original post on this topic: - Even in Edit, R-Alt acts like L-Alt with no document open. - In SetEdit, R-Alt acts like L-Alt. -

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread Bret Johnson
It is known that the R-Alt (AltGr) works differently than L-Alt with some keyboard layouts, but when it is a US keyboard layout (and some other layouts as well) that is not the case. This is a bug and it should be fixed. There are DOS functions that EDIT can call to tell what kind of keyboard l

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread Don Flowers
I use setedit almost exclusively and R-Alt is working correctly with an open file. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:48 AM, John Hupp wrote: > I have argued much the same, but I have a recollection that the EDIT > behavior is by design, with R-Alt (aka AltGr) functioning as a dead key > to provide suppo

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread John Hupp
I have argued much the same, but I have a recollection that the EDIT behavior is by design, with R-Alt (aka AltGr) functioning as a dead key to provide support for the Euro character, etc. There is an old, unattended bug report on the issue, though it may need rounding out, and in any case some

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-08 Thread Bret Johnson
With a US keyboard layout, R-Alt and L-Alt are supposed to work exactly the same way in the vast majority of programs, including EDIT. I did a couple of experiments, and in FD-EDIT it doesn't work that way. It's a bug in the way the program is written. MS-EDIT works just fine. I haven't look

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-05 Thread Don Flowers
Oops my bad! I only tested it with EDIT loaded but not with an open document. Doesn't work. On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 5:35 PM, John Hupp wrote: > Does that work in EDIT with a document open? > > If so, is that on real hardware or a virtual machine? > > I have never had that key combo work in Edit o

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-05 Thread John Hupp
Does that work in EDIT with a document open? If so, is that on real hardware or a virtual machine? I have never had that key combo work in Edit on perhaps a dozen different old computers. On 3/5/2016 4:18 PM, Don Flowers wrote: R ALT-X works for me on a 2014 Acer Aspire E5 Laptop. I wonder i

Re: [Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-05 Thread Don Flowers
R ALT-X works for me on a 2014 Acer Aspire E5 Laptop. I wonder if the root of this issue is that there no longer seems to be a keyboard standard (as we knew it in DOS); where TSRs were the norm. I have several TSR programs connected to either Left Shift or Left CTRL and my favorite TSR (PC-OUTLINE

[Freedos-user] R-Alt does not act like L-Alt

2016-03-05 Thread John Hupp
Ever since I moved from MS-DOS to FreeDOS years ago, I have been annoyed by some R-Alt key behavior. (This is on a US ANSI-layout keyboard.) The classic illustration was in Edit, where I couldn't R-Alt+X to exit. But my touch-typing technique for a L-Alt+X would be left index finger on L-Alt,