Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-19 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 19-5-2011 2:28, Alain Mouette schreef: > I managed to make a Boot CD that works almost in all machines. The only > one that is not working is "Virtual PC 2007". it locks uppun execution > of JEMM386 from a CD image. XMGR is used because it is required by UIDE. Technically UIDE doesn't require X

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-18 Thread Alain Mouette
Hi Japheth, I am glad that you are here, it is nice to have our little family mantaining contact. I managed to make a Boot CD that works almost in all machines. The only one that is not working is "Virtual PC 2007". it locks uppun execution of JEMM386 from a CD image. XMGR is used because it i

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread japhethx gmail
> 1). NOEMS is rarely used, and a lot of things don't handle it well. ... > ... I wouldn't do this. Just load a XMS > driver only (and not via "NOEMS"). NOEMS is ok and safe, the switch which causes problems with some programs is FRAME=NONE. > 2). Actually, I've noticed JEMM386 will hang if you

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE: Solved

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Thanks to all of you that have helped me with this problem. It could have taken ages to test and understand what was happening... Many Thanks to Eric Auer who had a LOT of patience with me, I manage to make it run. So here is my minimalistic setup. I hope that someone can publish it somewhere.

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Single Stage to Orbit
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 19:04 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > JEMM is at 5.74 Thanks for that one, switching to JEMMEX just solved a problem where Bochs would barf if EMM386.EXE was loaded. -- Tactical Nuclear Kittens --

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Jack
Alain et al, >> I do need as much conventional memory as I can get, and even the it is a >> tight fit... >> >> So everyone belives that >>   JEMM386 X=TEST NOEMS >> is safer? if so, I will change... > > My point was that ACPI tables (and/or too aggressive searching by FD > [J]EMM386?) makes it ne

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 17-5-2011 20:41, Alain Mouette schreef: > Well, so it is a BIOS bug, and that is the end of research in this > direction... > > Either syslinux (that seems to be better but for which I need help) or > RDISK+SUBST (that I know, but may be a bit clumsy) ok, made a very basic ISO generation batchf

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Alain Mouette wrote: > (top posting to make it shorter) > > I do need as much conventional memory as I can get, and even the it is a > tight fit... > > So everyone belives that >   JEMM386 X=TEST NOEMS > is safer? if so, I will change... My point was that ACP

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 17-5-2011 20:41, Alain Mouette schreef: Alain, can I privately send you a complete disk image sometime tomorrow by email? Would be 1.44MB, maybe slightly smaller if compressing first. It would replace your own floppy image directly, you can still use your own method of ISO generating. Basicly

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Alain, > (I hope this messags comes though, 5th try...) One got automatically blocked because it had a (too big) attachment, and I think that is good. I see you already transferred the same information without attachments :-) Eric ---

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, >> ==>> so, imho, the drive A: is disapearing when UIDE is loaded. It looks >> like an interaction between the BIOS boot driver that creates A: for the >> CD boot image and UIDE :( > > I wrote UIDE to be a "standard" system driver, not a "CD boot" driver, > and I was unaware that BIOS "CD

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
(top posting to make it shorter) I do need as much conventional memory as I can get, and even the it is a tight fit... So everyone belives that JEMM386 X=TEST NOEMS is safer? if so, I will change... Thanks, Alain Em 17-05-2011 16:35, Rugxulo escreveu: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:45

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Christian Masloch
> You can also > run "JEMM386 LOAD" at any time but that doesn't give you UMBs. A program modifying DOS's internal data which could effectively link in new UMBs is easy enough to write, provided that the kernel's handling of the UMA is compatible enough to that of the MS-DOS kernel. Regards,

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Alain Mouette wrote: > > I am encountering a strange problem with UIDE. It happens with some > machines but not all, one of the failing machine is nearby so I can make > more tests easely... > > I am using UIDE and XMGR from 10-May-11, I made my config from y

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Well, so it is a BIOS bug, and that is the end of research in this direction... Either syslinux (that seems to be better but for which I need help) or RDISK+SUBST (that I know, but may be a bit clumsy) Thanks, Alain Em 17-05-2011 15:05, Jack escreveu: > > Alain, > >> I just foud how to make it

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Em 17-05-2011 14:04, Bernd Blaauw escreveu: > > I've recently encountered the same issue, not sure if it's purely > limited to booting from CD-ROM. > In my case I tend to use Syslinux --> Memdisk --> Disk Image ( --> > bootsector --> kernel --> config.sys --> shell --> autoexec.bat --> > com

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Em 17-05-2011 14:02, Tom Ehlert escreveu: > Hi Alain, > > most likely UIDE disturbs the BIOS boot drive emulation > I have no idea if UIDE can work around this. > > you can work around this by > > create a virtual disk > copy A: to virtual disk (including autoexec.bat) > so that A: is

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Jack
Alain, > I just foud how to make it work (kind of...) > > I boot normally, single-stepping, loading all *except UIDE*, than I do: >SET COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM (it's the same) >C: >DEVLOAD A:\DOS\UIDE.SYS /D:CDROM > > it loads, and I can access drive C:, but if I access A: it locks ju

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 17-5-2011 19:40, Alain Mouette schreef: > I boot normaly, single-stepping, loading all *except IEDE*, than I do: > SET COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM (it's the same) > C: > DEVLOAD A:\DOS\UIDE.SYS /D:CDROM > > it loads, and I can access drive C:, but if I access A: it locks just > the same

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Hi Bernd, Hi Jack, Em 17-05-2011 14:04, Bernd Blaauw escreveu: > Op 17-5-2011 17:45, Alain Mouette schreef: >> I am using UIDE and XMGR from 10-May-11, I made my config from your >> example (whole file attached), jemm386 is 572 dated 13mar2008 (complete >> config at the end): >> device=a:\dos\xmgr

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hi Alain, most likely UIDE disturbs the BIOS boot drive emulation I have no idea if UIDE can work around this. you can work around this by create a virtual disk copy A: to virtual disk (including autoexec.bat) so that A: is no longer needed execute autoexec.bat from virtual disk

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 17-5-2011 17:45, Alain Mouette schreef: > I am using UIDE and XMGR from 10-May-11, I made my config from your > example (whole file attached), jemm386 is 572 dated 13mar2008 (complete > config at the end): > device=a:\dos\xmgr.sys /B > device=a:\dos\jemm386.exe I=TEST NOEMS > device=a:\dos\xmgr.

[Freedos-user] Problem with UIDE

2011-05-17 Thread Alain Mouette
Hi Jack, (I hope this messags comes though, 5th try...) I am encountering a strange problem with UIDE. It happens with some machines but not all, one of the failing machine is nearby so I can make more tests easely... I am using UIDE and XMGR from 10-May-11, I made my config from your example