Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-21 Thread G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user
Hi there, On Mon, 21 Oct 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 at 23:45, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: ... DOS introduced the idea of packaged software to the world I'd argue that was CP/M in the previous decade (the 1970s). ... You have a point, although I'd

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-21 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-user
On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 at 23:45, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: > > What would be the point? DOS introduced the idea of packaged software > to the world I'd argue that was CP/M in the previous decade (the 1970s). I own packaged CP/M software, bought used (I am old but not that old) but it was

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-20 Thread Louis Santillan via Freedos-user
DM&P who make the Vortex86 CPUs, chipsets, SOMs, and some of the other designs are Taiwanese. PCBWay is Chinese but the weeCee designs are on github. If you have another way of printing the PCBs, you're not restricted to PCBWay. Over the last 15 years, there's been several DM&P/Vortex86 based de

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-20 Thread Roger via Freedos-user
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 02:19:51PM +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > >Hi Michał, > >> Hi, >> >> > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to >> build a dos only machine. >> >> I have one word for you - weeCee. > >This is interesting, sort of a DIY designed d

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-20 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Michał, Hi, > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to build a dos only machine. I have one word for you - weeCee. This is interesting, sort of a DIY designed device: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/weeCee___Tiny_DOS_Gaming_PC.html https://ci

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user
On 18/10/2024 21:43, tsie...@softcon.com wrote: Won't work.  Dos itself uses a *lot* of interrupt calls to do things. The raspberry pies run processors that don't support interrupts. Therefore, porting a stand-alone version of dos to the pie just won't work. That's not really what I meant, and

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
Hi, > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to build a dos only machine. I have one word for you - weeCee. Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 19.10.2024 o 21:37, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user pisze: On 18/10/2024 21:43, tsie...@softcon.com wrote: Won't work.  Dos

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user
Hi there, On Sat, 19 Oct 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: ... DOS is deeply tied to the x86-16 CPU model, with some x86-32 extensions. It is not meaningfully possible to create anything usefully like DOS for an Arm chip. What would be the point? DOS introduced the idea of packaged s

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread Sabina Zelená . via Freedos-user
 WEAR ANIMALS,nor do not pay  Their Murderers & oppressors,please. Shalom/Peace/Shanti/Mier/Nyugalom. ...   Original Message   From: Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user.‎ Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 21:56.‎ To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Cc: Mateusz Viste Subject: Re: [Freedos-u

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-user
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 21:24, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: > Won't work. Dos itself uses a *lot* of interrupt calls to do things. Er, kinda sorta, ish, but this is not a useful statement in any way I can interpret. It's a bit like saying, er, "boats use a *lot* of propellers so you can't

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
Useless. end of life, and over 100 bucks, neither one of which is my target goal for building dos based devices with SBC components. Good catch though, they could have been helpful had I known about them 10 years ago. On 10/19/2024 8:54 AM, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: Hi there, On

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! The Raspberry Pi idea seems like far more work than necessary.  All the more reason for choices.  So that those who can explore this door can, but those who  want access to freedos on hardware can enjoy this as well. The lack of a keyboard made this a nonstarter  as far as I am concerned.

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-19 Thread G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user
Hi there, On Sat, 19 Oct 2024, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: ... That one the guys on that forum made is (currently) the only one I've found that doesn't cost more than 100 bucks for an X86 SBC capable of running dos. ... I don't know if you're looking for something you can buy off the

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Far be it for me to judge creative expression. still I recall the goal of Mike I believe where dos and accessibility is concerned. Between computers put aside because someone decided they were out of date. desire for independence. Ease of putting the access together and so forth? The Raspb

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
Yeah, all of the x86 single board computers are well over the $100 mark, and some are as high as 400, so that's a nonstarter.  I have yet to find one that is an X86 SBC for a lower price point. If I was going to spend 400 bucks, I'd not bother with a single board computer, I'd get a real one.

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! Just to clarify: I am *not* planning to transform a RPi into a standalone "DOS computer that talks". That was Eric's idea. A perfectly valid idea with possible practical applications, but outside of my specific interest. Not transform. You run DOS in an emulator. Only the emulator runs

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
On 10/18/2024 8:07 AM, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user wrote: I am *not* planning to transform a RPi into a standalone "DOS computer that talks". That was Eric's idea. A perfectly valid idea with possible practical applications, but outside of my specific interest. Won't work.  Dos itself us

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user
Hi there, On Fri, 18 Oct 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: ... To bump a related topic: DOSEMU2 does work on ARM64 hardware, but their Ubuntu packages do not run on a Raspberry Pi PC out of the box. If somebody is bored, it would be nice to have pre-compiled Rasbperry Pi OS Linux DEB or FL

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Mateusz, hi FreeDOS people, thank you for creating that emulation of the speech part of Braille n Speak :-) http://emubns.sourceforge.net Question about the other half, are components of Braille displays freely available? Like single char parts, similar to 7-segment LED numbers, only wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-18 Thread Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user
On 18/10/2024 03:29, Mike Coulombe via Freedos-user wrote: Hey, that sounds promising. So was that dos install software speech or did you have a newer braille an speak connected? The only braille an speak I know about is the one I use to have in the late eighties. I do not own any Braille 'n S

[Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

2024-10-17 Thread Mike Coulombe via Freedos-user
Hey, that sounds promising. So was that dos install software speech or did you have a newer braille an speak connected? The only braille an speak I know about is the one I use to have in the late eighties. Anyway, if this is all software speech, could it work on a regular laptop? This gave me a

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on Raspberry Pi

2013-03-27 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 07:05 PM 3/27/2013, Jim Hall wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:11 AM, john s wolter <johnswol...@wolterworks.com> wrote: Okay, had anyone done a name search prior to production? MINiX3.org might not be amused. Go was the last test of overlapping names.

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on Raspberry Pi

2013-03-27 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:11 AM, john s wolter wrote: > Okay, had anyone done a name search prior to production? MINiX3.org might > not be amused. Go was the last test of overlapping names. > I don't see the name conflict. "rpix86" and "MINIX" look entirely different to me. Just because there

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on Raspberry Pi

2013-03-27 Thread john s wolter
Okay, had anyone done a name search prior to production? MINiX3.org might not be amused. Go was the last test of overlapping names. Cheers, John S Wolter LinkedIn: johnswolter johnswol...@wolterworks.com USA, Eastern Standard Ti

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on Raspberry Pi

2013-03-26 Thread Robert Riebisch
Jim Hall wrote: > I thought this was cool: Patrick Aalto ported DSx86 to the Raspberry Pi, The LineWars guy. :-) > as rpix86 (as in "R. Pi x86"), so now you can run DOS on the Pi. > > http://rpix86.patrickaalto.com/ He's also working on a port to Android: http://ax86.patrickaalto.com/ Doom on

[Freedos-user] DOS on Raspberry Pi

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Hall
I thought this was cool: Patrick Aalto ported DSx86 to the Raspberry Pi, as rpix86 (as in "R. Pi x86"), so now you can run DOS on the Pi. http://rpix86.patrickaalto.com/ >From his blog (http://rpix86.patrickaalto.com/rblog.html) I gather that this is running its own DOS kernel, but does provide