Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

Hi Jerome, Eric! On Friday, March 27, 2020 1:16 PM, Jerome Shidel jer...@shidel.net wrote: > Hi Eric, > I took a quick look. > There is some minor confusion and package issues and they cannot be replace > the current packages “AS-IS”. > At a glance… > Are they all newer than the ones already in

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

The important question isn't "why would I", the question is "can I". Any reason someone would want to port software from dos to another OS valid. Any reason. But in the case of 4dos they can't because of the license. R. On 3/27/2020 2:01 PM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: On Mar 27 2020 22:

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

But thank you for this Information! ☺ Eric Von: Eric Auer Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 23:41 An: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devices. But are there any > drivers for the gener

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

I allready have 2 virtual machines running MS DOS and FreeDOS Eric Von: Eric Auer Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 23:41 An: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devices. But are there any

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devices. But are there any > drivers for the generic realtek soundchips? I that is not the > case, is there a kind of soundcards wich can be used as well > under FreeDOS as under Windows 10? You probably refer to AC97 or HDA compatible sound hard

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:20 PM wrote: > On Mar 27 2020 23:02, Jim Hall wrote: > > Yes, the 4DOS license was my mistake and I feel really bad about it. > > > Don't. IMO it's an okay license. And I am forever greatful for it, > otherwise we might have never gotten the 4DOS sources like we did. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:13 PM tom ehlert wrote: > Hallo Herr userbeit...@abwesend.de, > > am Freitag, 27. März 2020 um 21:07 schrieben Sie: > > > I just read through > > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages. In Section > > Utilities 4DOS is marked as "no not include" for

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Mar 27 2020 23:02, Jim Hall wrote: > Yes, the 4DOS license was my mistake and I feel really bad about it. Don't. IMO it's an okay license. And I am forever greatful for it, otherwise we might have never gotten the 4DOS sources like we did. My astonishment is that something exclusively free t

[Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

Hi, Freedos runs pritty well on modern devices. But are there any Drivers for the generic realtec soundchips? I that is not the case, is there a Kind of soundcards wich can be used as well under FreeDOS as under Windows 10? Eric ___ Freedos-user mail

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

Yes, the 4DOS license was my mistake and I feel really bad about it. When I originally spoke with Rex about releasing the 4DOS source code under an open source license, Rex was agreeable - but adamant that he did not want someone to copy his source code to create a competing commercial product on W

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Mar 27 2020 22:21 geneb wrote: >> learn to live with it. >> > Nah, you just ignore it. ;) Exactly. But why not include it [as an option] in the FreeDOS distribution? It's not like it's a mandatory part or a requirement to run FreeDOS, so it's all about user choice. A.

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Mar 27 2020 22:13, Random Liegh wrote via Freedos-user: > The problem is that while it's free to use and to modify on FreeDOS, > it's restricted to FreeDOS (officially speaking; rumour has it that > you're allowed to use it on any DOS based OS unofficially[1]). > > You can't (for example) port i

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, tom ehlert wrote: Hallo Herr userbeit...@abwesend.de, https://www.4dos.info/sources.htm "The Software, or any portion of it, may not be compiled for use on any operating system OTHER than FreeDOS…" unfortunately this is not compatible with GPL(any version). and was init

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

The problem is that while it's free to use and to modify on FreeDOS, it's restricted to FreeDOS (officially speaking; rumour has it that you're allowed to use it on any DOS based OS unofficially[1]). You can't (for example) port it to BSD and run it there. That makes it a non-free license in t

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

Hallo Herr userbeit...@abwesend.de, am Freitag, 27. März 2020 um 21:07 schrieben Sie: > I just read through > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages. In Section > Utilities 4DOS is marked as "no not include" for FreeDOS 1.3. > ?!?!?! I thought that 4DOS was specifically fre

[Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

Hi! I just read through http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages. In Section Utilities 4DOS is marked as "no not include" for FreeDOS 1.3. ?!?!?! I thought that 4DOS was specifically free to use with FreeDOS. Wasn't this the ONLY limitation of the license? Shouldn't it therefo

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

Hi Eric, > On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> The package UIDE contains UHDD. >> It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. > > Mercury has recently created separate packages for > all different drivers, with separate readme, source > and so on.

Re: [Freedos-user] WinWorldPC disk images...

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:33 AM Bret Johnson wrote: > > I personally like DOS WordPerfect a lot -- version 6.2 is what I have and > what I use to write the documentation for my DOS programs. I've never used > WordStar myself. It's a matter of personal preference. I learned WordStar in the ear

Re: [Freedos-user] Press Alt key via ssh

You might be able to use my SCANCODE program to do that, available at http://bretjohnson.us. It's actually way overkill for what you're trying to do, but it might work. One thing it will let you do is convert one keystroke (or keystroke combination) into another. Since you're remoting in with

Re: [Freedos-user] WinWorldPC disk images...

I personally like DOS WordPerfect a lot -- version 6.2 is what I have and what I use to write the documentation for my DOS programs. I've never used WordStar myself. Anyway, like Dennis indicated the files probably aren't "split" like you might be thinking and need to be "combined" again before

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

On Mar 27 2020 11:37, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 27/03/2020 11:25, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: >> Yes, FreeDOS tends to be growing, which makes sense. For old computers, >> original to that time, EDR-DOS might be a better choice. > > Or you might try some minimalistic FreeDOS distribution tailore

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

Hi! On Mar 27 2020 04:57, Rugxulo wrote: > XP is dead as a doornail (since 2014), so is even Win7 nowadays. No > more security fixes. Those old cpus (and even modern ones) all have > vulnerabilities and various software workarounds, plus microcode > updates, which each have different costs (slowdo

[Freedos-user] Press Alt key via ssh

Hello guys, Some time ago I migrated my entire development environment to the cloud. Daily I use an iPad as a terminal and access a Debian Linux server via mosh (ssh) and use tmux and zsh. But I still want to be able to run some DOS programs, for that, I use DOSEMU together with FreeDOS, and sinc

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

Hi Jerome, > The package UIDE contains UHDD. > It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. Mercury has recently created separate packages for all different drivers, with separate readme, source and so on. Please use those for 1.3, so people do not have to search for UHDD in the UID

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

On 27/03/2020 11:25, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: Yes, FreeDOS tends to be growing, which makes sense. For old computers, original to that time, EDR-DOS might be a better choice. Or you might try some minimalistic FreeDOS distribution tailored specifically for the truly ancient machines. h

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

Hi! On Mar 27 2020 05:14, Rugxulo wrote: > I only have DR-DOS 7.03, but AFAIK, DR-DOS 5 was compatible to MS-DOS > 3.3, DR 6 was their 5, and 7 was (of course) 6 compatible (though it > pretended to be PC-DOS, technically, unless you specifically asked > elsewhere). > > So, yes, FreeDOS should be

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

On Mar 27 2020 04:49, Rugxulo wrote: > Niklaus Wirth wrote "A Plea for Lean Software" back in 1995. He > obviously was referring to his [quasi open source] OberonOS with > compiler and tools. I don't think most people took his advice. He has > had a lot of good ideas over the years, but as even he

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

The package UIDE contains UHDD. It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/uide.html _