Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: where to put 'system-wide' applications

2014-08-14 Thread Louis Santillan
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:30 PM, dmccunney wrote: [SNIP] > > 'Which means "Accept what the package manager does by default." I > mostly concur, but an advanced user might have reasons for wanting > things elsewhere. It's nice it the package manager gives them an > option to do so and specify whe

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: FM vs Wave Table

2014-08-14 Thread John Ames
>> The problem with this line of argument is that FM is quite capable of >> providing a wide variety of sounds, including passable mimicries of >> many traditional instruments. (The simplified two-operator FM in PC >> sound cards significantly less so than, say, the DX7, but still.) > > Indeed you'

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Ulrich wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 um 12:52 schrieb Mateusz Viste : > >> Now the question is where to put any 3rd party apps that are still >> supposed to be callable from anywhere in the directories tree? One >> option could be to create another "BIN-like" directory fo

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: where to put 'system-wide' applications

2014-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Ulrich wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 um 17:51 schrieb dmccunney : >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> >>> But the question now is different (I took the liberty to change the >>> subject of this message accordingly): where would you put applicatio

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread Ulrich
Am 14.08.2014 um 12:52 schrieb Mateusz Viste : > Thanks for your feedback! Thanks for yours :-) > > On 08/14/2014 12:05 AM, Ulrich wrote: >> FDNPKG installs the MTCP programs into C:\FDOS\MTCP instead of C:\FDOS\BIN. > > This is not really about FDNPKG, but more about "how packages are > str

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: FM vs Wave Table

2014-08-14 Thread Zbigniew
2014-08-14 21:41 GMT+02:00, John Ames : > The problem with this line of argument is that FM is quite capable of > providing a wide variety of sounds, including passable mimicries of > many traditional instruments. (The simplified two-operator FM in PC > sound cards significantly less so than, say,

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG (documentation?)

2014-08-14 Thread Louis Santillan
That's good information. I don't think I had seen that before. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > oops, forgot to paste the link.. The "packaging" documentation link was > meant to be this: > >http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Package > > Mateusz > > > > On 08/14/201

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: where to put 'system-wide' applications

2014-08-14 Thread Ulrich
Am 14.08.2014 um 17:51 schrieb dmccunney : > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > >> But the question now is different (I took the liberty to change the >> subject of this message accordingly): where would you put applications >> that need to be reachable from %PATH% ? > >

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: FM vs Wave Table

2014-08-14 Thread John Ames
> Let's replace things in the context: we were talking about playing MIDI > files. MIDI is inherently about using 'traditional' instruments, and > designed on synth hardware (most of the time from Roland) that provides > a full-blown orchestra on a chip. Therefore playing MIDI on anything > that do

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG (documentation?)

2014-08-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
oops, forgot to paste the link.. The "packaging" documentation link was meant to be this: http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Package Mateusz On 08/14/2014 05:44 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Hi, > > I am unsure whether you are thinking about documentation for packaging > (ie. creating pack

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: where to put 'system-wide' applications

2014-08-14 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > But the question now is different (I took the liberty to change the > subject of this message accordingly): where would you put applications > that need to be reachable from %PATH% ? >From a system viewpoint, it doesn't matter, as long as

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG (documentation?)

2014-08-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hi, I am unsure whether you are thinking about documentation for packaging (ie. creating packages) or documentation for FDNPKG... These are two different things. If you are looking for pointers about how to create package, you might find some good information to start here: If, on the other h

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: where to put 'system-wide' applications

2014-08-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 08/14/2014 04:36 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > One school of thought is the NextSTEP style folders [0]. So you would > have functionally named folders /System, /User, /Programs, /Games, > etc. This is actually how it already works. FDNPKG uses 'categories' of software, and puts software there

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread Louis Santillan
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: [SNIP] > This is not really about FDNPKG, but more about "how packages are > structured". Indeed, I tend to avoid putting to much stuff into > %FREEDOS%\BIN, and only put there stuff that is supposed to be part of > the FreeDOS "core" (ie BASE,

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: FM vs Wave Table

2014-08-14 Thread Zbigniew
2014-08-14 13:00 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Viste : > But of course it doesn't mean FM is poor by nature - I totally agree it > can be used for really nice tunes. I even heard very nice music coming > out of my Famicom 25 years ago. But this doesn't mean FM (or the > Famicom) won't sound poor when trying

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread Louis Santillan
I know Masteusz has put in a lot of work into FDNPKG. One thing I really appreciated when I transitioned to Linux almost 20 years ago was how good the documentation was. Especially when I used Crux Linux and their ports package system [0]. How to make a package, how to use the various commands,

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: FM vs Wave Table

2014-08-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 08/12/2014 11:09 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > Not really: it is just _different_. Of course, it is poor as long, as > you expect it to simulate real "traditional" music instruments - but > in fact FM synthesis is a new kind of instrument on its own. Is guitar > "poor", because it's unable to pretend to

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hi Ulrich, Thanks for your feedback! On 08/14/2014 12:05 AM, Ulrich wrote: > FDNPKG installs the MTCP programs into C:\FDOS\MTCP instead of C:\FDOS\BIN. This is not really about FDNPKG, but more about "how packages are structured". Indeed, I tend to avoid putting to much stuff into %FREEDOS%\B

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG ?

2014-08-14 Thread Thomas Mueller
> Yes, this would be cool indeed. Any volunteers? :) > In fact, we almost have such 1.11 distro: all_cd is pretty much working, > only requires a 'smart' installer (like the one we had in 1.0 or 1.1), > and maybe a downgrade of FDISK (if confirmed that the version is causing > the vbox incompati