Re: visibility of release process

2008-12-10 Thread Skip Ford
Ken Smith wrote: > With the 7.0 release I tried giving just the URL > of the primary site (ftp.freebsd.org) but that proved people don't just > want easy - they're lazy. For the most part they just clicked on that > and didn't look around for a mirror. Hence your observation about the > differenc

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-28 Thread Skip Ford
Marko Lerota wrote: > In http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html says > > Updating Existing Systems > > > An upgrade of any existing system to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE constitutes > > a major version upgrade, so no matter which method you use to update > > an older system you should rein

Re: 6.2-STABLE => 7.0-STABLE Upgrade root partition more full

2008-06-06 Thread Skip Ford
Gavin Spomer wrote: > I successfully did my first FreeBSD upgrade yesterday after looking at the > manual, and cross referencing with Googling and getting help from our network > engineer here at CWU. Before the upgrade, running df showed: > > Filesystem 1K-blocksUsed Avail Capacity Mo

Re: DVD-RW doesn't write

2008-06-10 Thread Skip Ford
Greg Black wrote: > On 2008-06-10, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > > I have never managed to use burncd with any drive. > > Just for the record, I've been using burncd successfully with a variety > of drives from the early days of FreeBSD through to at least 7.0-R, so I > doubt if the above means very much

Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah

2007-08-01 Thread Skip Ford
Randy Bush wrote: > the undiscussed and unannounced change to the default dns config to > cause local transfer of the root and arpa zone files has raised major > discussing in the dns operational community. (see the mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED]). > > did i miss the discussion here? No. There

Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah

2007-08-01 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > If there is a consensus based on solid technical reasons (not emotion > or FUD) to back the root zone slaving change out, If that's a shot at me, you're out of line. I specifically said I didn't have an axe to grind with anyone, and I never piled on in my comments. The reaso

Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah

2007-08-01 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > Skip Ford wrote: > > The reason I provided *is* purely technical. The roots can decide > > tomorrow to block AXFR requests from FreeBSD users who install > > 6.3-RELEASE or 7.0-RELEASE. They may. They may not. But they > > can. > > Her

Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah

2007-08-01 Thread Skip Ford
Mark Andrews wrote: > > > I don't think that "all" of the drama could have been avoided in any > > case, there is too much emotion surrounding this issue. > > I'll concur with Doug on this. I've been discussing doing > just this for the last 10+ years. Why don't you update 2870 then

Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah

2007-08-01 Thread Skip Ford
Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > I don't think that "all" of the drama could have been avoided in any > > > > case, there is too much emotion surrounding this issue. > > > > > > I'll concur with Doug on this. I've been discussing doing > > > just this for the last 10+ years. > > > > Why don't you

Re: named.conf restored to hint zone for the root by default

2007-08-02 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > In an effort to find some kind of balance (I won't even try to say > "consensus") between those who hate the idea of slaving the root > zones, those who like the idea but don't want it to be the default, > and those who like the idea, I've made the following change: > > 1. Cha

Re: named.conf restored to hint zone for the root by default

2007-08-02 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > Skip Ford wrote: > > Just like I'd think everyone should sync with stratum-1 servers if > > those operators supported everyone doing that. > > I've already pointed out that this is a silly analogy, as the two > things have nothing

Re: LOCK_PROFILING in -stable

2007-10-24 Thread Skip Ford
Robert Watson wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > >>This is my feeling also -- I would consider ABI breakage a show stopper > >>for 6.x, but feel otherwise that the new code is much more mature and > >>capable and would be quite beneficial to people building appliances and

Re: 6.3 PRERELEASE

2007-11-09 Thread Skip Ford
Jon Holstrom wrote: > I had 6.2 stable all setup & > had gnome 2.18 all humming along 100% > java & eclipse, tomcat, bah bah bah! > > updated src & rebuilt only to > find 6.2 is gone & 6.3 prerelease! > > ( I think there should be a button > we need to push to get > software we DONT want! j/k) >

Re: RELENG_7: GENERIC and options LOCK_PROFILING are breaking sockstat and netstat -a

2007-12-10 Thread Skip Ford
Boris Samorodov wrote: > The system updated a couple of hours ago (RELENG_7), the kernel config > is GENERIC with "options LOCK_PROFILING", default /etc/make.conf, i386 > (I have this problem at current-amd64 as well): > - > bb% uname -a > FreeBSD bb.ipt.ru 7.0-BETA4 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 #1: Mon D

Re: RELENG_7: GENERIC and options LOCK_PROFILING are breaking sockstat and netstat -a

2007-12-10 Thread Skip Ford
Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:22:01 -0500 Skip Ford wrote: > > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > The system updated a couple of hours ago (RELENG_7), the kernel config > > > is GENERIC with "options LOCK_PROFILING", default /etc/make.conf, i386

Re: portmaster not ask for port deletion

2009-08-25 Thread Skip Ford
Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:54:54 -0700 > Doug Barton wrote: > > > It sounds to me like what you're seeing is portmaster asking whether > > or not you want to delete the distfiles after an upgrade. The easiest > > way to deal with that is to use '-aD' and then when it's done use

Re: portmaster not ask for port deletion

2009-08-25 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > Skip Ford wrote: > > Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:54:54 -0700 > >> Doug Barton wrote: > >> > >>> It sounds to me like what you're seeing is portmaster asking whether > >>> or not you want t

Re: portmaster not ask for port deletion

2009-08-27 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > Skip Ford wrote: > > Doug Barton wrote: > >> Second, without knowing what command line you used I couldn't tell you > >> for sure what happened of course, but assuming you used some > >> combination of '-af' what you saw was e

Re: portmaster not ask for port deletion

2009-08-27 Thread Skip Ford
Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:59:19 -0700 > > From: Doug Barton > > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > > > Skip Ford wrote: > > > > > > Well, it wasn't immediately obvious to me that someone would ever want to

Re: portmaster not ask for port deletion

2009-08-28 Thread Skip Ford
Doug Barton wrote: > Skip Ford wrote: > > > So, basically, portmaster stopped and asked for input because it thought I > > might've forgotten that I installed an +IGNOREME file 10 minutes prior. > > I'd prefer to not have tools that try to "think" about