Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-08-31 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
Having just trashed my dual Pentium 233 MMX by installing 11.4 I went digging to find the cause - and I found it. As you can see from objdump below, clearly a decision was made that 11.4 would no longer support anything before a i686. Ignoring for a moment the wisdom of making breaking changes to

Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-08-31 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
On 2020-08-31 21:54, Warner Losh wrote: > The default is to compile for i686. That does seem to be the case for 11.4, but that wasn't the case for 11.3, and I cannot find an announcement for that change anywhere. Had I seen one ... > However, you can still roll your own if you need anything back

Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-08-31 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
On 2020-08-31 22:59, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/12.1R/relnotes.html section 11.1 discusses > the topic > in context of upcoming FreeBSD 13. And that makes sense - 12.x EOL is a few years out. > There was some discussion on the topic in the freebsd-arch mailing list

Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-08-31 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
On 2020-08-31 21:51, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > Given that the hardware notes > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.4R/hardware.html#proc-i386 > explicitely claim 80486 compatibility, I'd guess this was not a > consciuous decision but a blunder which wasn't caught Hmm I'd assumed that e

Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-09-13 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
On 2020-09-01 03:20, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > CPU: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (499.91-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x5a2 Family=0x5 Model=0xa Stepping=2 > Features=0x88a93d > AMD Features=0xc040 > > Of course, its NanoBSD image is built with CPUTYPE=i5

Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686

2020-09-13 Thread Charles Lecklider via freebsd-stable
On 2020-09-14 04:41, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > Build time for modern FreeBSD version is too gross and needs way too much > memory, > so I stopped building image for my i586 hardware "in place" quite long ago. It would take about a week to compile, but since it was stable <11.4 I didn't really care