2010/3/21 Andriy Gapon :
> on 09/02/2010 14:53 Andriy Gapon said the following:
>> on 09/02/2010 12:32 Matthew D. Fuller said the following:
>>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:37:50PM +1030 I heard the voice of
>>> Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus:
Probably the result of idiotic penny pinchi
on 09/02/2010 14:53 Andriy Gapon said the following:
> on 09/02/2010 12:32 Matthew D. Fuller said the following:
>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:37:50PM +1030 I heard the voice of
>> Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus:
>>> Probably the result of idiotic penny pinching though :-/
>> Irritating. O
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Due to the nature of this thread and its current list involvement I am
going to be starting a new thread in freebsd-filesystems@ just for
arc_summary.pl tomorrow night with the subject below.
[arc_summary.pl] Adjustments, PR & Requests
I would
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:56, bartosz.stec@ wrote:
On 2010-02-17 09:32, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:19:49 +0100
Bartosz Stec wrote:
So here's my reply (last line seems most interesting ;) :
[...snipped...]
Illegal division
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Bartosz Stec wrote:
> On 2010-02-17 09:32, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:19:49 +0100
>> Bartosz Stec wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So here's my reply (last line seems most interesting ;) :
>>>
>>
>> [...snipped...]
>>
>>>
>>> Illegal division by zer
On 2010-02-17 09:32, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:19:49 +0100
Bartosz Stec wrote:
So here's my reply (last line seems most interesting ;) :
[...snipped...]
Illegal division by zero at ./arc_summary.pl line 242.
FWIW, I also got this line when I ran thi
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:59, freebsd@ wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:06:43AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote:
On 2/15/10 7:49 PM, jhell wrote:
As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below URLs
updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to me
personally.
He
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:06, bp@ wrote:
On 2/15/10 7:49 PM, jhell wrote:
As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below URLs
updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to me
personally.
Here is the URLs:
http://jhell.googlecode.com/files/arc_summary.pl
http:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:19:49 +0100
Bartosz Stec wrote:
> So here's my reply (last line seems most interesting ;) :
[...snipped...]
> Illegal division by zero at ./arc_summary.pl line 242.
FWIW, I also got this line when I ran this script on my idle zfs server.
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Torfinn
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On 2010-02-17 08:58, jhell wrote:
To all those involved in this.
More up-to-date: arc_summary.pl r182
Best regards.
And watching for replies,
So here's my reply (last line seems most interesting ;) :
# ./arc_summary.pl
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:56, freebsd@ wrote:
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:05:11AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
Overall, Barry's script makes an excellent proof-of-concept - which is
what he was offering.
You know, I had a verbose in-line response type
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:30, mattjreimer@ wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM, jhell wrote:
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It is funny that you guys are all of a sudden talking about this, as I was
just working on some modifications to the arc_summary.pl script for some
bette
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:05:11AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> Overall, Barry's script makes an excellent proof-of-concept - which is
> what he was offering.
You know, I had a verbose in-line response typed up, agreeing with some
points of yours and disagreeing with others (with perlfaq and other
On 2010-Feb-16 09:59:46 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:06:43AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote:
>> maybe something like this tacked on the end of the script (excuse my
>> Perl, I'm a Python guy).
>>
>>
>> Loader Settings #
>> open(LOADER, '/boot/loader
On Tue, February 16, 2010 2:05 pm, Alexander Motin wrote:
> Dan Langille wrote:
>> On Wed, February 10, 2010 10:00 pm, Bruce Simpson wrote:
>>> On 02/10/10 19:40, Steve Polyack wrote:
I haven't had such bad experience as the above, but it is certainly a
concern. Using ZFS we simply 'off
Dan Langille wrote:
> On Wed, February 10, 2010 10:00 pm, Bruce Simpson wrote:
>> On 02/10/10 19:40, Steve Polyack wrote:
>>> I haven't had such bad experience as the above, but it is certainly a
>>> concern. Using ZFS we simply 'offline' the device, pull, replace with
>>> a new one, glabel, and z
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM, jhell wrote:
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> It is funny that you guys are all of a sudden talking about this, as I was
> just working on some modifications to the arc_summary.pl script for some
> better formatting and inclusion of kmem stati
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:06:43AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote:
> On 2/15/10 7:49 PM, jhell wrote:
>
> >As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below URLs
> >updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to me
> >personally.
> >
> >Here is the URLs:
> >http://jhe
On 2/15/10 7:49 PM, jhell wrote:
As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below URLs
updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to me
personally.
Here is the URLs:
http://jhell.googlecode.com/files/arc_summary.pl
http://jhell.googlecode.com/files/arc_summary
On 2010-02-15 10:29:22PM +0100, Gót András wrote:
> On Hét, Február 15, 2010 10:15 pm, Dan Naumov wrote:
> >>> A C2Q CPU makes little sense right now from a performance POV. For
> >>> the price of that C2Q CPU + LGA775 board you can get an i5 750 CPU and
> >>> a 1156 socket motherboard that will ru
On 2010-02-15 02:25:57PM -0800, Artem Belevich wrote:
> > How much ram are you running with?
>
> 8GB on amd64. kmem_size=16G, zfs.arc_max=6G
>
> > In a latest test with 8.0-R on i386 with 2GB of ram, an install to a ZFS
> > root *will* panic the kernel with kmem_size too small with default
> > se
On 2/16/2010 6:28 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
Dan Langille wrote:
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
[...]
Why even bother with the LSI card at all?
That board already has 6 SATA slots - depends how many disks you want
to use of course. (5 HDs + 1 DVD drive?)
Plus two SATA drives in a gmirror for the
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> I have my backup storage machine booted from USB stick (as read-only
> UFS) with 4x 1TB HDDs in RAIDZ. It is running one and half year
> without problem.
Yeah, I am booting off a 4Gb CF card with adapter (I didn't trust the
BIOS enough for USB :)
I
Dan Langille wrote:
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
[...]
Why even bother with the LSI card at all?
That board already has 6 SATA slots - depends how many disks you want
to use of course. (5 HDs + 1 DVD drive?)
Plus two SATA drives in a gmirror for the base OS, and one optical. I
want a minimum of 8
Quoting jhell (from Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:49:38 -0500):
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:20, 000.fbsd@ wrote:
I think you are referring to this script:
http://cuddletech.com/arc_summary/
and its FreeBSD version
http://bitbucket.org/koie/arc_summary/changeset/dbe14d2cf52b/
Another useful script is arc
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, jfar...@goldsword.com wrote:
>
> Just out of curiousity, would not an older server like this:
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=DL145-5R (~$75 + shipping) or
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DL360-6R&cat=SYS (~$190 + shipping)
>
> be a reasonable option? Unl
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:20, fullermd@ wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:49:38PM -0500 I heard the voice of
jhell, and lo! it spake thus:
As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below
URLs updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to
me personally.
Well,
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:20, fullermd@ wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:49:38PM -0500 I heard the voice of
jhell, and lo! it spake thus:
As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below
URLs updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to
me personally.
Well,
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:49:38PM -0500 I heard the voice of
jhell, and lo! it spake thus:
>
> As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below
> URLs updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to
> me personally.
Well, here's one:
> OS Revision:
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:20, 000.fbsd@ wrote:
Alexander Leidinger wrote:
[...]
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_min
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_max
c_max is vfs.zfs.arc_max, c_min is vfs.zfs.arc_min.
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.ev
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Steve Polyack wrote:
I'm not sure about that particular card, but we've never seen that
great of performance out of the LSI MegaRAID cards that ship with
Dell servers as the PERC. The newest incarnations are better, but I
would try to get an Areca. T
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Steve Polyack wrote:
> I'm not sure about that particular card, but we've never seen that
> great of performance out of the LSI MegaRAID cards that ship with
> Dell servers as the PERC. The newest incarnations are better, but I
> would try to get an Areca. The ones we have te
On 2/15/2010 6:04 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Steve Polyack wrote:
On 02/15/10 12:14, Dan Langille wrote:
7. Supermicro LSI MegaRAID 8 Port SAS RAID Controller $118
Dan,
I'm not sure about that particular card, but we've never seen that
great of performance out of the LSI MegaRAID cards th
Steve Polyack wrote:
On 02/15/10 12:14, Dan Langille wrote:
7. Supermicro LSI MegaRAID 8 Port SAS RAID Controller $118
Dan,
I'm not sure about that particular card, but we've never seen that great
of performance out of the LSI MegaRAID cards that ship with Dell servers
as the PERC. Th
Just out of curiousity, would not an older server like this:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=DL145-5R (~$75 + shipping) or
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DL360-6R&cat=SYS (~$190 +
shipping)
be a reasonable option? Unless you're looking to suck every last bit
of speed or
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my co
> How much ram are you running with?
8GB on amd64. kmem_size=16G, zfs.arc_max=6G
> In a latest test with 8.0-R on i386 with 2GB of ram, an install to a ZFS
> root *will* panic the kernel with kmem_size too small with default
> settings. Even dropping down to Cy Schubert's uber-small config will p
On Hét, Február 15, 2010 10:15 pm, Dan Naumov wrote:
>>> A C2Q CPU makes little sense right now from a performance POV. For
>>> the price of that C2Q CPU + LGA775 board you can get an i5 750 CPU and
>>> a 1156 socket motherboard that will run circles around that C2Q. You
>>> would lose the ECC thou
Alexander Leidinger wrote:
[...]
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_min
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_max
c_max is vfs.zfs.arc_max, c_min is vfs.zfs.arc_min.
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.evict_skip
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.memory_throttle_count
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size
I'm not
>> A C2Q CPU makes little sense right now from a performance POV. For the
>> price of that C2Q CPU + LGA775 board you can get an i5 750 CPU and a 1156
>> socket motherboard that will run circles around that C2Q. You would lose
>> the ECC though, since that requires the more expensive 1366 socket CP
On 02/15/10 12:14, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supe
On Hét, Február 15, 2010 9:39 pm, Dan Naumov wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
>
>> Dan Naumov wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille
>>> wrote:
>>>
Dan Naumov wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
>>
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
> Dan Naumov wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
>>>
>>> Dan Naumov wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
>>
>> After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
>> Su
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Artem Belevich wrote:
AB> It used to be that vm.kmem_size_max needed to be bumped to allow for
AB> larger vm.kmem_size. It's no longer needed on amd64. Not sure about
AB> i386.
AB>
AB> vm.kmem_size still needs tuning, though. While vm.kmem_size_max is no
AB> longer a limit, t
>>> * vm.kmem_size
>>> * vm.kmem_size_max
>>
>> I tried kmem_size_max on -current (this year), and I got a panic during
>> use,
>> I changed kmem_size to the same value I have for _max and it didn't
>> panic
>> anymore. It looks (from mails on the lists) that _max is supposed to
>> give a
>> max v
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD
>> * vm.kmem_size
>> * vm.kmem_size_max
>
> I tried kmem_size_max on -current (this year), and I got a panic during use,
> I changed kmem_size to the same value I have for _max and it didn't panic
> anymore. It looks (from mails on the lists) that _max is supposed to give a
> max value for auto-enh
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick (from Mon, 15 Feb
2010 04:27:44 -0800):
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:50:00AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick (from Mon, 15 Feb
2010 01:07:56 -0800):
>On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:
>>> I had a feeling someone woul
Ulf Zimmermann wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 07:33:07PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote:
Get a dock for holding 2 x 2,5" disks in a single 5,25" slot and put
it at the top, in the only 5,25" bay of the case.
That sounds very interesting. I just looking around for such a thing,
and could not find it
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:50:00AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Jeremy Chadwick (from Mon, 15 Feb
> 2010 01:07:56 -0800):
>
> >On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:
> >>> I had a feeling someone would bring up L2ARC/cache devices. This gives
> >>> me the oppo
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick (from Mon, 15 Feb
2010 01:07:56 -0800):
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:
> I had a feeling someone would bring up L2ARC/cache devices. This gives
> me the opportunity to ask something that's been on my mind for quite
> some time now:
>
>
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 07:33:07PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote:
> >Get a dock for holding 2 x 2,5" disks in a single 5,25" slot and put
> >it at the top, in the only 5,25" bay of the case.
>
> That sounds very interesting. I just looking around for such a thing,
> and could not find it. Is there
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:
> > I had a feeling someone would bring up L2ARC/cache devices. This gives
> > me the opportunity to ask something that's been on my mind for quite
> > some time now:
> >
> > Aside from the capacity different (e.g. 40GB vs. 1GB), is there
> I had a feeling someone would bring up L2ARC/cache devices. This gives
> me the opportunity to ask something that's been on my mind for quite
> some time now:
>
> Aside from the capacity different (e.g. 40GB vs. 1GB), is there a
> benefit to using a dedicated RAM disk (e.g. md(4)) to a pool for
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:57:10AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Dan Naumov (from Mon, 15 Feb 2010
> 01:10:49 +0200):
>
> >Get a dock for holding 2 x 2,5" disks in a single 5,25" slot and put
> >it at the top, in the only 5,25" bay of the case. Now add an
> >additional PCI-E SATA co
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> DL> > SAS controller ($120):
> DL> >
> http://www.buy.com/prod/supermicro-lsi-megaraid-lsisas1068e-8-port-sas-raid-controller-16mb/q/loc/101/207929556.html
> DL> > Note: You'll need to change o
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Dan Naumov wrote:
DN> >> PSU: Corsair 400CX 80+ - 59 euro -
DN> >
DN> >> http://www.corsair.com/products/cx/default.aspx
DN> >
DN> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008 for $50
DN> >
DN> > Is that sufficient power up to 10 SATA HDD and an optical dr
Quoting Dan Naumov (from Mon, 15 Feb 2010
01:10:49 +0200):
Get a dock for holding 2 x 2,5" disks in a single 5,25" slot and put
it at the top, in the only 5,25" bay of the case. Now add an
additional PCI-E SATA controller card, like the often mentioned PCIE
SIL3124. Now you have 2 x 2,5" disk
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
[snip]
DL> > SAS controller ($120):
DL> >
http://www.buy.com/prod/supermicro-lsi-megaraid-lsisas1068e-8-port-sas-raid-controller-16mb/q/loc/101/207929556.html
DL> > Note: You'll need to change or remove the mounting bracket since it is
DL> > "backwards".
Dan Langille wrote:
> Dan Naumov wrote:
>> Now add an
>> additional PCI-E SATA controller card, like the often mentioned PCIE
>> SIL3124.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124026 for $35
This is PCI-X version. Unless you have PCI-X slot, PCIe x1 version seems
preferabl
Dan Langille wrote:
> Alexander Motin wrote:
>> Steve Polyack wrote:
>>> On 2/10/2010 12:02 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
Don't use a port multiplier and this goes away. I was hoping to avoid
a PM and using something like the Syba PCI Express SATA II 4 x Ports
RAID Controller seems to be
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
> > I priced a decent ZFS PC for a small business and it was AUD$2500
> > including the disks (5x750Gb), case, PSU etc..
>
> Yes, and this one doesn't yet have HDD.
>
> Can you supply details of your system?
1 AP400791A 4U Rackmount chassis (no
Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burn
>> PSU: Corsair 400CX 80+ - 59 euro -
>
>> http://www.corsair.com/products/cx/default.aspx
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008 for $50
>
> Is that sufficient power up to 10 SATA HDD and an optical drive?
Disk power use varies from about 8 watt/disk for "green" disks
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choic
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD
> your ZFS pool of SATA disks has 120gb worth of L2ARC space
Keep in mind that housekeeping of 120G L2ARC may potentially require
fair amount of RAM, especially if you're dealing with tons of small
files.
See this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org/msg34674.html
--Ar
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Langille"
To: "Wes Morgan"
Cc: "FreeBSD Stable"
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: hardware for home use large storage
Whether I use hardware or software RAID is undecided. I
I think I am leaning t
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
DL> I'm looking at creating a large home use storage machine. Budget is a
DL> concern, but size and reliability are also a priority. Noise is also a
DL> concern, since this will be at home, in the basement. That, and cost,
DL> p
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Dan Naumov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
>> Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
>
> After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
> Supermicro, and HP), my configuration
Wes Morgan wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Langille wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking at creating a large home use storage machine. Budget is a
concern, but size and reliability are also a priority. Noise is also a
concern, since this will be at home, in the basement. That, and co
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
> Dan Naumov wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Sam
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
Alexander Motin wrote:
Steve Polyack wrote:
On 2/10/2010 12:02 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
Don't use a port multiplier and this goes away. I was hoping to avoid
a PM and using something like the Syba PCI Express SATA II 4 x Ports
RAID Controller seems to be the best solution so far.
http://www.am
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DM> other parts are regular SocketAM2+ motherboard, Athlon X4, 8G ram,
DM> FreeBSD/amd64
well, not exactly "regular" - it's ASUS M2N-LR-SATA with 10 SATA channels, but
I suppose there are comparable in "workstation" mobo
Dan Naumov wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
2. SuperMicro 5046A $750 (+$43 shipping)
Steve Polyack wrote:
> On 2/10/2010 12:02 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
>> Don't use a port multiplier and this goes away. I was hoping to avoid
>> a PM and using something like the Syba PCI Express SATA II 4 x Ports
>> RAID Controller seems to be the best solution so far.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sy
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
> Dan Langille wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking at creating a large home use storage machine. Budget is a
> > concern, but size and reliability are also a priority. Noise is also a
> > concern, since this will be at home, in the basement. That, and cos
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
>> After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
>> Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
>> setup:
>>
>> 1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
>> 2. SuperMicro 5046A $750 (+$43 shipping)
>>
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
setup:
1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
2. SuperMicro 5046A $750 (+$43 shippi
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
> > After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
> > Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
> > setup:
> >
> > 1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
>
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
> After creating three different system configurations (Athena,
> Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro
> setup:
>
> 1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping)
> 2. SuperMicro 5046A $750 (+$43 shipping)
> 3. LS
Dan Langille wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking at creating a large home use storage machine. Budget is a
concern, but size and reliability are also a priority. Noise is also a
concern, since this will be at home, in the basement. That, and cost,
pretty much rules out a commercial case, such as a 3U c
On Wed, February 10, 2010 10:00 pm, Bruce Simpson wrote:
> On 02/10/10 19:40, Steve Polyack wrote:
>>
>> I haven't had such bad experience as the above, but it is certainly a
>> concern. Using ZFS we simply 'offline' the device, pull, replace with
>> a new one, glabel, and zfs replace. It seems
On 02/10/10 19:40, Steve Polyack wrote:
I haven't had such bad experience as the above, but it is certainly a
concern. Using ZFS we simply 'offline' the device, pull, replace with
a new one, glabel, and zfs replace. It seems to work fine as long as
nothing is accessing the device you are re
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
DL> Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DL> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DL> >
DL> > DM> other parts are regular SocketAM2+ motherboard, Athlon X4, 8G ram, DM>
DL> > FreeBSD/amd64
DL> >
DL> > well, not exactly "regular" - it's ASUS M2N-LR-SATA wit
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DM> other parts are regular SocketAM2+ motherboard, Athlon X4, 8G ram,
DM> FreeBSD/amd64
well, not exactly "regular" - it's ASUS M2N-LR-SATA with 10 SATA channels, but
I suppose there are comparable in "workstation" mobo
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DM> other parts are regular SocketAM2+ motherboard, Athlon X4, 8G ram,
DM> FreeBSD/amd64
well, not exactly "regular" - it's ASUS M2N-LR-SATA with 10 SATA channels, but
I suppose there are comparable in "workstation" mobo market now...
--
Sincerely
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
DL> I'm looking at creating a large home use storage machine. Budget is a
DL> concern, but size and reliability are also a priority. Noise is also a
DL> concern, since this will be at home, in the basement. That, and cost,
DL> pretty much rules out a comm
On 2/8/2010 12:01 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking of 8x1TB (or larger) SATA drives. I've found a case[2] with
hot-swap bays[3], that seems interesting. I haven't looked at power
supplies, but given that number of drives, I expect something beefy with
a decent reputation is called for.
On 2/10/2010 12:02 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
Trying to make sense of stuff I don't know about...
Matthew Dillon wrote:
AHCI on-motherboard with equivalent capabilities do not appear to be
in wide distribution yet. Most AHCI chips can do NCQ to a single
target (even a single target b
On 10 February 2010 08:33, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
>
>> > I have something similar (5x1Tb) - I have a Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
>> > with an Athlon X2 and 4Gb of RAM (only half filled - 2x2Gb)
>> >
>> > Note that it doesn't support ECC, I don't know if that is a prob
Dan Langille wrote:
Boris Kochergin wrote:
Dan Langille wrote:
Boris Kochergin wrote:
Peter C. Lai wrote:
On 2010-02-09 06:37:47AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote:
Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Also, it seems like
people who use zfs (or gmirror + gstripe) ge
Boris Kochergin wrote:
Dan Langille wrote:
Boris Kochergin wrote:
Peter C. Lai wrote:
On 2010-02-09 06:37:47AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote:
Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Also, it seems like
people who use zfs (or gmirror + gstripe) generally end up buying
Dan Langille wrote:
Boris Kochergin wrote:
Peter C. Lai wrote:
On 2010-02-09 06:37:47AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote:
Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote:
Also, it seems like
people who use zfs (or gmirror + gstripe) generally end up buying
pricey hardware raid
:Correction -- more than likely on a consumer motherboard you *will not*
:be able to put a non-VGA card into the PCIe x16 slot. I have numerous
:Asus and Gigabyte motherboards which only accept graphics cards in their
:PCIe x16 slots; this """feature""" is documented in user manuals. I
:don't kno
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:30:54PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
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> >On 09.02.2010 15:37, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
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> >>I can't agree with the last statement about HP's iLO. I have addon ca
Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) wrote:
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On 09.02.2010 15:37, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
*SNIP*
I can't agree with the last statement about HP's iLO. I have addon card
in ML110 G5 (dedicated NIC), the card is "expensive" and bugs are
amazing. The manage
On Sze, Február 10, 2010 11:55 am, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:27:53AM +0100, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 10 February 2010 05:28:57 Dan Langille wrote:
>>
>>> Boris Kochergin wrote:
>>>
Peter C. Lai wrote:
> On 2010-02-09 06:37:47AM -0500, Dan Lang
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