Zlog benchmark with diskinfo, Flush error: operation not supported

2017-10-10 Thread Olav Gjerde
Hello, I just tried to run the recently added slog benchmark for diskinfo on 11.1-Release. It works fine with ATA drives, but not with NVMe drives. I get the following error # diskinfo -vSw /dev/nvd0 /dev/nvd0 512 # sectorsize 400088457216# mediasize in bytes (373G

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-05 Thread Denny Lin
com>, Michael invariable leaves it in the > default configuration 'in the way the developers or vendor wanted it for > production'. This is by rule. A quick question: why is ZFS used in the benchmark? "Both operating systems were in their stock configuration aside from

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-04 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM,   wrote: >> Thanks. >> >> My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs the benchmark to >> ensure expected behaviour. >> > Why should yo

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-04 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:31:55 -0800 wrote: >Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking > on[1]Phoronix.com, Michael inva configuration 'in the way the > developers or production'. This is by rule. However, i poor > scores on be 'it should be tuned, is configur

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-04 Thread Matthew Tippett
developers or vendor wanted it for production'. This is by rule. However, invariable the community or vendor for platforms that post poor scores on benchmark cry foul about using the default config. 'it should be tuned, no-one deploys an untuned system' or 'the system is con

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-04 Thread matthew
Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking on [1]Phoronix.com, Michael inva= riable leaves it in the default configuration 'in the way the developers or= vendor wanted it for production'. This is by rule. However, i= nvariable the community or vendor for platfor

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2012-01-04 Thread Arnaud Lacombe
Hi, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > Thanks. > > My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs the benchmark to > ensure expected behaviour. > Why should you have to tune anything ? Did you tune the Oracle Server install ? If not, you should not have to t

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 23/12/2011 20:23, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> There is a wiki page http://wiki.freebsd.org/SystemTuning which is >> currently more or less tuning(7) with some annotations, the idea being >> to

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Garrett Cooper
http://wiki.freebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice and have a >>>>> look what can be improved. The page is far from perfect and needs some >>>>> additional people which are willing to improve it. >>>>> >>>>> This is only part of the problem. A tun

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread O. Hartmann
reebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice and have a look what >> can >> be improved. The page is far from perfect and needs some additional people >> which are willing to improve it. >>>>> >>>>> This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
proved. The page is far from perfect and needs some additional people > which are willing to improve it. > > > > > > > > This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which > could be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any > v

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread John Baldwin
; > > This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which could be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any volunteers? A first step would be to take he tuning-man-page and wikify it. Other tuning sources are welcome too. > > > > > > Ever

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-23 Thread Vincent Hoffman
ge is far from perfect and needs some >>>> additional people which are willing to improve it. >>>> >>>> This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which could >>>> be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-22 Thread Garrett Cooper
improve it. >>> >>> This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which could >>> be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any volunteers? >>> A first step would be to take he tuning-man-page and wikify it. Other >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
age in the wiki - which could > > be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any volunteers? > > A first step would be to take he tuning-man-page and wikify it. Other > > tuning sources are welcome too. > > > > Every FreeBSD dev with a wiki account can

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-22 Thread O. Hartmann
ook what can be > improved. The page is far from perfect and needs some additional people which > are willing to improve it. > > This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which could be > referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any volunteers? A &g

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-21 Thread Alexander Leidinger
additional people which are willing to improve it. This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which could be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any volunteers? A first step would be to take he tuning-man-page and wikify it. Other tuning sources are welcome too

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-21 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 03:29:25PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > This also interested me: > > * Linux system crashed > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2011-11/msg8.html > > * OpenIndiana system crashed same way as Linux system > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchiv

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Stefan Esser
t we've since seen volumes > written, mostly in lists but some wikis, parts of the Handbook, guides > for performance tuning etc, scarcely accessible to J. Random Installer. > A set of tunings for these Phoronix benchmarks might be a good start? I doubt that tuning is responsible,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Michael Larabel
gt; > become popular over Internet. > > > > -- > > // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov [2] Self-selected, like a 'Standard & Poors' of the OS 'market'? :) People who choose OS by fan base have already made their choice, and were never 'ours

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Ian Smith
; > > > -- > > // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov Self-selected, like a 'Standard & Poors' of the OS 'market'? :) People who choose OS by fan base have already made their choice, and were never 'ours' to lose. Recall the Benchmark Battles bet

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Michael Larabel
For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to reproduce the benchmarks in question. Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org. Run the benchmark against those used in the article phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 You will be ask

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread matthew
The benchmarks themselves are versioned. So in general most of the av= ailable versions of PTS itself should be fine. PTS can be considered = an execution shell that doesn't affect the benchmark itself. Note th= at you'll download a pile of the benchmarks, build and

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org. > > Run the benchmark against those used in the article > >    phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 > > You will be asked to push the comparison up to openbenchmarking at the end. > > Mat

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Matthew Tippett
For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to reproduce the benchmarks in question. Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org. Run the benchmark against those used in the article phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 You will

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread O. Hartmann
estingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on >>>> criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative >>>> benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to >>>> benchmark real world performance,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Matthew Tippett
iours. Benchmarking is a mucky business.. Note that the benchmarks with Phoronix test suite are repeatable, once installed, you can just run "./phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37" to repeat (as close as the system allows) the benchmarks that started this thread. Is

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
Fly, Linux > > and Solaris. Steps to reproduce these benchmarks provided. > > > > Sam > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Igor Mozolevsky > > wrote: > > > >> Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on > >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread O. Hartmann
t; Sam > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > >> Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on >> criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative >> benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly)

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Samuel J. Greear
estingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on > criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative > benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to > benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any > nu

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on > criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative > benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to > benchmark real world per

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any numbers in relati

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Alexander Yerenkow > wrote: >> FreeBSD currently have very obscure, closed community. To get in touch, you >> need to subscribe to several mail lists, constantly read them, I've just >> found recently (my s

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >        Release engineering for FreeBSD produces SHA256 checksums for all > official releases. AFAIK though they're only in the announcement emails and > not stored anywhere else. >        I can't speak for OpenBSD's release process. > Tha

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> As long as I have reliable checksums that match the what the upstream source >> says is the real thing, it doesn't practically matter where I get my images >> from. > > Check

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > As long as I have reliable checksums that match the what the upstream source > says is the real thing, it doesn't practically matter where I get my images > from. Checksums compared to what? How would you know what the correct checksum

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-20 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Alexander Yerenkow wrote: > FreeBSD currently have very obscure, closed community. To get in touch, you > need to subscribe to several mail lists, constantly read them, I've just > found recently (my shame of course) in mail list that there is service ( > pub.allbs

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread O. Hartmann
gt; both platforms and reported only the read results. If you dig down >> into the actual results, >> http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 -- you will >> see two Blogbench numbers, one for read and another for write. These >> were both taken from the same

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
IMHO, no offence, as always. As were told, Phoronix used "default" setup, not tuned. So? Is average user will tune it after setup? No, he'll get same defaults, and would expect same performance as in tests, and he probably get it. The problem of FreeBSD is not it's default settings, some kind of v

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
wo Blogbench numbers, one for read and another for write. These > were both taken from the same Blogbench run, so FreeBSD optimizes > writes over reads, that's probably a good thing for your data but a > bad thing when someone totally misrepresents benchmark results. > ... > > Fr

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Edho Arief
s need to be fixed to represent reality rather than > throwing half of the results in the trash. To be quite frank, "fixing" > FreeBSD to look good on this benchmark will make it a worse real-world > OS. But you guys go ahead and foot-shoot over these ridiculous > benchmarks all yo

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Samuel J. Greear
openbenchmarking.org/result/1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 -- you will see two Blogbench numbers, one for read and another for write. These were both taken from the same Blogbench run, so FreeBSD optimizes writes over reads, that's probably a good thing for your data but a bad thing when someone totall

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/19/11 09:27, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Samuel. > You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: > >> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are >> similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time >> should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer furt

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Adrian. You wrote 16 декабря 2011 г., 20:43:27: > Guys/girls/fuzzy things - this is 2011; people look at shiny blog > sites with graphs rather than mailing lists. Sorry, we lost that > battle. :) My thoughts exactly. -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov ___

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: > Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are > similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time > should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating this > garbage. (Yes, I have been do

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-18 Thread matthew
Thanks. My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs = the benchmark to ensure expected behaviour. The installation, execut= ion and comparison against the benchmarks in the article is fairly simple.<= br> Note that some tuning may not be relevant or recom

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1

2011-12-16 Thread Michel Talon
> beyond 3% when SSE isn't explicetly enforced. > > More interesting is the performance gain due to the architecture. I > think it would be very easy for M. Larabel to repeat this benchmark with > a "bleeding edge" Ubuntu or Suse as well. And since FreeBSD 9.0 can

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
Can someone please write up a nice, concise blog post somewhere outlining all of this? Extra bonus points if it's a blog that is picked up by blogs.freebsdish.org and/or some of the other BSD sites. Guys/girls/fuzzy things - this is 2011; people look at shiny blog sites with graphs rather than ma

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-16 Thread Arnaud Lacombe
Hi, [resend on the ml, my bad] On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: > 2011/12/16 Arnaud Lacombe : >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann >> wrote: >>> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >>&

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-16 Thread Stefan Esser
lls to be swapped out within seconds on systems with background jobs writing to disk). > More interesting is the performance gain due to the architecture. I > think it would be very easy for M. Larabel to repeat this benchmark with > a "bleeding edge" Ubuntu or Suse as well. And sin

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-16 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/16 Arnaud Lacombe : > Hi, > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann > wrote: >> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA >> > it might be worth highlight

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/16/11 07:44, Joe Holden wrote: > Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann >> wrote: >>> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Joe Holden
Arnaud Lacombe wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA it might be worth highlighting that despite Oracle Linux 6.1 Server is using a kernel + comp

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Arnaud Lacombe
Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA > it might be worth highlighting that despite Oracle Linux 6.1 Server is using a kernel + compiler al

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 Dec 2011 21:25, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it > >> is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more co

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it >> is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more competetive >> to compare Linux BTRFS and FreeBSD ZFS. >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: > Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it > is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more competetive > to compare Linux BTRFS and FreeBSD ZFS. > Er... does ext4 guarantee data integrity? You're not com

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am 12/15/11 14:51, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: >> >> On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: >> >>> Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stoc

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
rks "the system feels sluggish" is not > measured at all. Even if it is measured, if in such case the benchmark > finishes "better" - that is, faster, or say, makes the system freeze for the > user for the duration of the test -- it will be considered "win"

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
rs the best performance available by turning on the default FS by a standard stock installation. Using ZFS on Linux would be a great disadvantage and the benchmark would turn out the same bullsh... as comparing Linux-domain only with FreeBSD weknesses only ... Linux distributions offer setups fo

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 15/12/2011 14:29 Steven Hartland said the following: > Having a quick look at those results aren't there a few annomolies e.g. > THREADED > I/O TESTER for Oracle reports 10255.75MB/s > > Which is clearly impossible for a single HD system meaning > its basically caching the entire data set? I

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Sergey Matveychuk
15.12.2011 17:36, Michael Larabel пишет: On 12/15/2011 07:25 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeB

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
27;re at a roadblock -- nobody so far is absolutely certain how to "benchmark" and compare ULE vs. 4BSD in multiple ways, so that those of us involved here can run such utilities and provide the data somewhere central for devs to review. I only mention this because so far I haven't se

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Larabel
On 12/15/2011 08:26 AM, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: 15.12.2011 17:36, Michael Larabel пишет: On 12/15/2011 07:25 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was u

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Kalchev
differences? Most such benchmarks are run on a system with no other load whatsoever and in no way represent real world experience. What is more, I believe in such benchmarks "the system feels sluggish" is not measured at all. Even if it is measured, if in such case the benchmark fi

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: >> No, the same hardware was used for each OS. >> >> In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. > > Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeBSD, while UFS2 (with >

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
g/result/1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 -- you will > see two Blogbench numbers, one for read and another for write. These > were both taken from the same Blogbench run, so FreeBSD optimizes > writes over reads, that's probably a good thing for your data but a > bad thing when someone

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Stefan Esser
be possible with sysctl and/or boot time tuneables, e.g. "vfs.hidirtybuffers"). And a last remark: Single benchmark runs do not provide reliable data. FreeBSD comes with "ministat" to check the significance of benchmark results. Each test should be repeated at least 5 t

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Larabel
And a last remark: Single benchmark runs do not provide reliable data. FreeBSD comes with "ministat" to check the significance of benchmark results. Each test should be repeated at least 5 times for meaningful averages with acceptable confidence level. The Phoronix Test Suite runs most tests a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Samuel J. Greear
o FreeBSD optimizes writes over reads, that's probably a good thing for your data but a bad thing when someone totally misrepresents benchmark results. Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time should

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Steven Hartland
Having a quick look at those results aren't there a few annomolies e.g. THREADED I/O TESTER for Oracle reports 10255.75MB/s Which is clearly impossible for a single HD system meaning its basically caching the entire data set? Regards Steve

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Gót András
It would be also nice to see whether compiling the kernel and the world for the specific machine counts. I think it's an advantage of FreeBSD, but never could do a benchmark comparing this. Andras 15.12.2011 12:19 napján Michael Larabel ezt írta: On 12/15/2011 05:02 AM, Steven Hartland

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
data; I can point you to tons of systems where the data inserted there is nonsense, sometimes even just ASCII spaces (and that is the fault of the system vendor/BIOS manufacturer, not FreeBSD). Sometimes identical strings are used across completely different systems/boards (sometimes even server-clas

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all, Am 15.12.2011 um 12:18 schrieb Michael Ross: > Following Steven Hartlands' suggestion, > from one of my machines: > > /usr/ports/sysutils/dmidecode/#sysctl -a | egrep "hw.vendor|hw.product" > > /usr/ports/sysutils/dmidecode/#dmidecode -t 2 > # dmidecode 2.11 > SMBIOS 2.6 present. > > H

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Ross
Am 15.12.2011, 11:55 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 04:41 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Larabel
On 12/15/2011 05:02 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: "Michael Larabel" I was the on that carried out the testing and know that it was on the same system. All of the testing, including the system tables, is fully automated. Under FreeBSD sometimes the parsing

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Michael Larabel" I was the on that carried out the testing and know that it was on the same system. All of the testing, including the system tables, is fully automated. Under FreeBSD sometimes the parsing of some component strings isn't as nice as Linu

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Larabel
On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 08:32 Uhr, schrieb O. Hartmann : Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Larabel
On 12/15/2011 04:41 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems, different compilers, different GUIs... No, the same

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Ross
Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems, different compilers, different GUIs... No, the same hardware was used for each OS. The pictur

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Ross
Am 15.12.2011, 08:32 Uhr, schrieb O. Hartmann : Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 10

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-14 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 14 December 2011 23:32, O. Hartmann wrote: > Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA > > It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of > the benchmark. A difference of

Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-14 Thread O. Hartmann
Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is simply far beyond disapointing, it is more

Re: ZFS - benchmark & tuning before and after doubling RAM

2011-01-08 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
;drives on two SiI3124 SATA controllers. The OS runs off a gmirror >>RAID-1. >> >>More details here: http://www.freebsddiary.org/zfs-benchmark.php >> >>First, up, I've done a simple bonnie++ benchmark before I add more >>RAM. I ran this on two d

Re: ZFS - benchmark & tuning before and after doubling RAM

2011-01-08 Thread Dan Langille
EASE #1: Tue Nov 30 22:07:59 EST 2010 on a 64 bit box. The ZFS array consists of 7x2TB commodity drives on two SiI3124 SATA controllers. The OS runs off a gmirror RAID-1. More details here: http://www.freebsddiary.org/zfs-benchmark.php First, up, I've done a simple bonnie

Re: ZFS - benchmark & tuning before and after doubling RAM

2011-01-08 Thread Charles Sprickman
I3124 SATA controllers. The OS runs off a gmirror RAID-1. More details here: http://www.freebsddiary.org/zfs-benchmark.php First, up, I've done a simple bonnie++ benchmark before I add more RAM. I ran this on two different datasets; one with compression enabled, one without. If anyone has

Re: ZFS - benchmark & tuning before and after doubling RAM

2011-01-08 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
ay consists of 7x2TB commodity drives on > two SiI3124 SATA controllers. The OS runs off a gmirror RAID-1. > > More details here: http://www.freebsddiary.org/zfs-benchmark.php > > First, up, I've done a simple bonnie++ benchmark before I add more RAM. I > ran this on two

ZFS - benchmark & tuning before and after doubling RAM

2011-01-08 Thread Dan Langille
ror RAID-1. More details here: http://www.freebsddiary.org/zfs-benchmark.php First, up, I've done a simple bonnie++ benchmark before I add more RAM. I ran this on two different datasets; one with compression enabled, one without. If anyone has suggestions for various tests, option set

Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-23 Thread Dan Bilik
We were also hitting the limits of ab, but instead of hacking Apache sources we've ended up writing our own benchmark tool. With it we were able to get up to 18k req/sec from Apache 2.2 (serving static content through a custom module). Moreover, the tool is not bound to HTTP and can be use

Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-23 Thread TooMany Secrets
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vote added. One vote more... Thank's! -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets Dijo Confucio: "Exígete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los demás. Así te ahorrarás disgustos."

Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-23 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
- Original Message > From: Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:51:12 PM > Subject: Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1

Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 23/04/2008, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:07:43PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > > Every now and then people are complaining about the bug in ab2 that makes > > it unusable for benchmarking from FreeBSD (as a client). "ab2"

Re: ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:07:43PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > Every now and then people are complaining about the bug in ab2 that makes > it unusable for benchmarking from FreeBSD (as a client). "ab2" is a HTTP > benchmark that's bundled with the Apache web serv

ab2 (apache benchmark) problem

2008-04-21 Thread Ivan Voras
Hi, Every now and then people are complaining about the bug in ab2 that makes it unusable for benchmarking from FreeBSD (as a client). "ab2" is a HTTP benchmark that's bundled with the Apache web server. I found the apparent solution and I'd like to invite everyone

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-14 Thread Alban Hertroys
ave to admit I was confused about the purpose of the benchmark. I am so used to seeing (usually bad) comparison benchmarks between mysql and postgres that I mistook this for one. That's probably due to me being a postgresql mailing list regular. Not to say that PostgreSQL is the ulti

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
not a limitation of mysql itself. > Now this may well have been a version before 5.0.33. I'm not sure > what OS was used either, I suppose it was either Irix or Linux. > > Now I am curious whether the same performance drop on Linux would > occur with a postgres benchmark.

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-14 Thread Alban Hertroys
s may well have been a version before 5.0.33. I'm not sure what OS was used either, I suppose it was either Irix or Linux. Now I am curious whether the same performance drop on Linux would occur with a postgres benchmark. It probably will, but if not it seems like there's a pro

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-13 Thread Steven Hartland
at all to any of the mysql performance benchmarks and optimisation efforts that have being going on recently. Not to say that PostgreSQL is the ultimate benchmark instead of mysql, just a better one. Of course they both have their uses, but IMO mysql is loosing terrain fast. Any benchmark which look

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
#x27;t going to matter > much, no matter how many connections you have. Mysql doesn't scale > very well to multiple cpu's. This might be standard dogma, but it also appears not to be true: http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/mysql.html > It doesn't compare[1] t

Re: FreeBSD mysql Benchmark on 4BSD/ULE scheduler and i386/amd64

2007-03-13 Thread Alban Hertroys
rry, couldn't resist... This being mysql, the number of processors isn't going to matter much, no matter how many connections you have. Mysql doesn't scale very well to multiple cpu's. I've had my doubts about this "benchmark" from the beginning of this

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