Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
on doesn't verify it works for NFS >>> traffic. >>> >>> Also, the large RPC messages are a chain of about 33 mbufs of >>> various lengths, including a mix of partial clusters and regular >>> data mbufs, whereas a bulk send on a socket will typically

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ufs, whereas a bulk send on a socket will typically >> result in an mbuf chain of a lot of full 2K clusters. >> --> As such, NFS can be good at tickling subtle bugs it the >> net driver related to mbuf handling. >> >> rick >> >>>>

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ous lengths, including a mix of partial clusters and regular > data mbufs, whereas a bulk send on a socket will typically > result in an mbuf chain of a lot of full 2K clusters. > --> As such, NFS can be good at tickling subtle bugs it the > net driver related to mbuf handling.

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
verted. >>>It is currently in all of releng13, stable13 and main, although >>>the patch to fix this is was just reviewed and may hit main soon. >> >> Do you want a debug kernel to be used? Do you have a preference >> for main vs. stable/13 vs. release/1

odd behaviour using lagg on bridge

2021-05-21 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi List, I’m observing some odd behaviour after I decided to put the 2 interfaces in my system into a lagg failover bond - Can’t add the lagg to a bridge, it will say: $ sudo ifconfig vm-public addm lagg0 ifconfig: BRDGADD lagg0: Device busy I also witnessed that starting a vm after having it

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context) [RPi4B genet0 involved in problem]

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ferring to a release/13.0.0 context.) > >> ps: I do not think that r367492 could cause this, but it would be >>nice if you try a kernel with the r367492 patch reverted. >>It is currently in all of releng13, stable13 and main, although >>the patch to fix this i

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
could cause this, but it would be > nice if you try a kernel with the r367492 patch reverted. > It is currently in all of releng13, stable13 and main, although > the patch to fix this is was just reviewed and may hit main soon. Do you want a debug kernel to be used? Do you ha

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Direct drive connection to machine: no problem.] On 2021-May-20, at 21:40, Mark Millard wrote: > [main test example and main/releng/13 mixed example] > > On 2021-May-20, at 20:36, Mark Millard wrote: > >> [stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might >>

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[main test example and main/releng/13 mixed example] On 2021-May-20, at 20:36, Mark Millard wrote: > [stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might > allow eliminating some potential alternatives.] > > On 2021-May-20, at 19:38, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might allow eliminating some potential alternatives.] On 2021-May-20, at 19:38, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2021-May-20, at 18:09, Rick Macklem wrote: >> >> Oh, one additional thing that I'll dare to top post... &

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ebsd.org on > behalf of Rick Macklem > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 8:55 PM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List; Mark Millard > Subject: Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs > (in a zfs file systems context) > > Mark Millard wrote: >> [I wa

releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: ENOTCAPABLE returned without Capsicum

2021-05-15 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-16 11:48:24 +1000, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: >I am running 13-stable from a couple of weeks ago, without Capsicum >(neither CAPABILITY_MODE nor CAPABILITIES are specified in my kernel). >Despite this, I am getting Capsicum-related errors. As an example: &g

ENOTCAPABLE returned without Capsicum

2021-05-15 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
I am running 13-stable from a couple of weeks ago, without Capsicum (neither CAPABILITY_MODE nor CAPABILITIES are specified in my kernel). Despite this, I am getting Capsicum-related errors. As an example: openat(AT_FDCWD, "/") will return ENOTCAPABLE. Rummaging around the sources

fileargs_init(3) doesn't work without CAPABILITIES (was: Re: tail(1) broken in 13-stable)

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-06 19:07:23 -0400, monochrome wrote: ... >On 5/6/21 7:49 AM, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: ... >> server% tail /COPYRIGHT <&- >> Assertion failed: (procfd > STDERR_FILENO), function service_clean, file >> /usr/src/lib/libcasper/libcasper/servi

Fresh releng/13.0 release/13.0.0 install: "newsyslog: malformed 'at' value" messages

2021-05-06 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ewsyslog.conf.d/[!.]*.conf /usr/local/etc/newsyslog.conf.d/[!.]*.conf Specifically, the 7 lines with "@" involved under "when" get the complaints. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ______

Re: tail(1) broken in 13-stable

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-06 12:59:54 +0200, Mariusz Zaborski wrote: >Could you provide details how to reproduce this? > >On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 12:13, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable > wrote: >> >> Since updating from 12-stable to 13-stable, I've found that tail(1) >> cras

tail(1) broken in 13-stable

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
Since updating from 12-stable to 13-stable, I've found that tail(1) crashes, reporting: Assertion failed: (procfd > STDERR_FILENO), function service_clean, file /usr/src/lib/libcasper/libcasper/service.c, line 394. tail: unable to init casper: Socket is not connected unless all three

Re: zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
case time to allocate space. If we have less than this amount of free space, most ZPL operations (e.g. write, create) will return ENOSPC. Default value: 5. END QUOTE So in my simple context, apparently not much else contributes and the

zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0 >>> releng/13.0-n244733-ea31abc261ff-dirty: Thu Apr 29 21:53:20 PDT 2021 >>> root@CA72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/13_0R-CA72-nodbg-clang/usr/13_0R-src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG-CA72 >>> arm64 aarch64

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
y run a 'target cortex-a7 (so: armv7) from aarch64' test > next. That was the context for the original discovery and > report. > > The armv7 builds and installs get the same sort of diff results as the aarch64 ones. So it does not look like I can readily reproduce the problem files that had differences. Given the time it takes to run the experiments, I would not expect to reproduce the problem on any given timescale. I'll stop the reporting as I go along in my activities --unless I end up with a repetition of the problem. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
as apparently no longer >> available under that naming. >> For reference: >> # uname -apKU >> FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0 >> releng/13.0-n244733-ea31abc261ff-dirty: Thu Apr 29 21:53:20 PDT 2021 >> root@CA72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUIL

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
n a 'target cortex-a7 (so: armv7) from aarch64' test next. That was the context for the original discovery and report. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
accidentally discovered the presence of the few files with differences. My new experiments were different and I'd not though of needing to vary the procedure to get you the right evidence. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _

diffoscope's odd UnicodeDecodeError error message: reason found

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
line 293, in load return loads(fp.read(), File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/codecs.py", line 504, in read newchars, decodedbytes = self.decode(data, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte Not exactly an obvious error me

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
00018 29 100 8 [29] .strtab STRTAB 51c8 0363 0 0 1 > 50c4-000050b8 == 0xC Note: 0xC+0x4 == 0x10 (the size), so the last 4 bytes of .gnu_debuglink > For all I know, some

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
the 4 might accidentally match sometimes. The addition offset after .gnu_debuglink's file offset does vary (0xC and 0x10 above). The content of those differences do not look like file path components, for example the 0x08 byte. I do build with: # Avoid stripping but do not control host -g sta

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ars, decodedbytes = self.decode(data, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
instwrld-norm/usr/tests/local: No such file or directory diff: /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA72-instwrld-norm/usr/tests/sys/pjdfstest/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/tests/t

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte The two older snapshots of a Boot Environment have bin/sh files that compare equal. But every program I tried the above sort of thing against on got the same UnicodeDecodeError result from diffoscope, byte value and position matching. T

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
, you might need to send notes about how you want me to use the tool to get the output that you would want. (And, so, I get to learn . . .) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
e "enough is enough" and let you know. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-30 11:12, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli via > freebsd-stable wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, >> geo

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello, On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, > geom multiparty, a Dell MD3200i and fstab. > > Long story short, iSCSI login/connection/

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-30 10:29, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, > geom multiparty, a Dell MD3200i and fstab. Geom multiparty is probably the best typo/autocorrect ever. --- A

Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
bus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass2) at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (da2,pass3) at scbus5 target 0 lun 1f (da3,pass4) Any interesting suggestions? Thanks a lot. -- Andrea Brancatelli _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-04-28 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ht notice and care about such differences. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send an

Re: Updated to 13-STABLE in VirtualBox; on shutdown stuck after uhub[01] being detached

2021-04-28 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
On 28/04/21 00:12, parv wrote: Hi there, I had updated FreeBSD, in VirtualBox 5.22 on Windows with EFI, from 12-STABLE to 13-STABLE; upgraded the ZFS pools & the EFI boot loader. Currently testing with 13 GENERIC kernel. You mean you enabled EFI inside virtualbox? Why do you need that?

Re: iPhone tethering not working

2021-04-26 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
> 在 2021年4月25日,23:04,Li-Wen Hsu 写道: > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 9:55 PM 宋立杰 wrote: >> >> Yes, there is no ue0. And I made a mistake, it is 12.2-RELEASE other than >> STABLE. Sorry for that. Do I need to install STABLE to keep up with the >> newest deve

Re: (D29934) Reorder commented steps in UPDATING following sequential order. (was: etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example))

2021-04-25 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
? Is mergemaster going to stay as the recommented command to use? If so, with which command line options? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-25 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
‐‐‐ On Saturday, April 24, 2021 3:03 PM, Jeff Love j...@burgh.net wrote: > I'm running 12.2 and 13.0 on KVM using virtio and zfs. I am not having > disk I/O issues. > Jeff Love > On 4/24/21 5:25 AM, dashdruid via freebsd-stable wrote: > >> Hello List, >> I ho

iPhone tethering not working

2021-04-24 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
 I tried to connect my iPhone SE2 (iOS 13.7) to FreeBSD 12.2-stable. After loaded the kernel module if_ipheth, I connected my phone. > ugen0.2: at usbus0 Then I typed usbconfig -u 0 -a 2 set_config 3 > ipeth0 on uhub6 > Ipeth0: on usbus0 Then I chose to trust the computer, bu

Despite the documentation, "etcupdate extract" handles -D destdir (and its contribution to the default workdir)

2021-04-24 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
j/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-for-chroot/var/db/etcupdate/ I have not checked on if "etcupdate build" has a similar issue vs. not. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-24 Thread Bane Ivosev via freebsd-stable
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FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-24 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
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https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/?C=M&O=D messed up dates and HASHID-only use make things extremely hard to find "in time order"

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
d URL conventions chosen were put in place. The below illustrates an example of the mess for how things are currently presented. https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/?C=M&O=D lists ac845558f7b626d9a31b8f6dab686c45d39dc5a0/ as having date/time 2021-Apr-10 18:43 . Bu

Re: zfs native encryption best practices on RELENG13

2021-04-23 Thread Xin Li via freebsd-stable
On 4/23/21 13:53, mike tancsa wrote: > Starting to play around with RELENG_13 and wanted explore ZFS' built in > encryption.  Is there a best practices doc on how to do full disk > encryption anywhere thats not GELI based  ?  There are lots for > GELI, > but nothing I could find for native OpenZFS

Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds?

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds? (As stands, main , stable/12 , and stable/11 are getting them.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https

etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example)

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ng / writable at this stage either.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send an

AR9462 runs only at 11g mode

2021-04-18 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
 I newly installed FreeBSD 12.2-release, but I found my wireless card Dell 1901(AR9462) work only at 11g and not steadily . "Failed to add supported operating classes IE" occurs occasionally, why? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

13.0-RELEASE bsdinstall failure : looked for MANIFEST in wrong place (not with *.txz files)

2021-04-16 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: freebsd-update and speed

2021-04-16 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd

2021-04-10 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
aving to a) download the entire source tree, b) make buildworld, and c) make buildkernel. The kernel developers in their wisdom--ahem--have burdened all new installations with the abysmal performance of the ULE scheduler. The installation images for -STABLE versions are much the same. The 4BSD sch

Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

2021-04-09 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 07.04.2021 12:49, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: > > > At least w.r.t. gvinum's raid5, I can attest that the kernel panics > > are real. Before settling on ZFS raidz2 for my largest storage pool, I > > experimented with gst

Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

2021-04-06 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * *

Re: Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 06:49:17AM -0400, Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable > wrote: >> I have several servers running 11.4 and 12.2 that do nightly portsnap >> updates and the last time they've seen anything ne

Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable
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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-06 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-05 02:05, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote: > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉 I strongly agree with this consideration.

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > Hi all, > > I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients > from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts. Yep, and what I think many miss IRT to the stock ftpd is that it’s dumb simple and “just wo

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC5 Now Available

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable
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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-05 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
> On 3 Apr 2021, at 22:39, Ed Maste wrote: > > I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable > wrote: > > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉 That’s a +1 here, both

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" smime.p7s

Re: Update to the 13.0-RELEASE schedule

2021-03-31 Thread The Doctor via freebsd-stable
nt Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b We cannot change human failings by ridding ourselves of machines. -unknown ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://

Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
/unibia/freebsd/misc/arm64/qlnxe_13.0-RC4-arm64.log On 3/30/21 2:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote this message on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 03:23 -0400: I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image (FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso <h

powerpc64le is missing in: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/

2021-03-30 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
When I looked at https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ I noticed that "64-bit little-endian PowerPC" powerpc64le is not listed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org ma

Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
e-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_ioctl.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_os.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}"| On 3/30/21 3:00 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 3/30/21 8:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wr

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
On 30/03/21 17:38, tech-lists wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 05:22:30PM +0200, Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable wrote: No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported for the release the fix was applied

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
enSSL 1.1.1h-freebsd  22 Sep 2020 Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-freebsd 25 Mar 2021 shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well? No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for current and stable the new upstream

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Ruben via freebsd-stable
bsd  22 Sep 2020 Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-freebsd 25 Mar 2021 shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well? thanks, _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org

qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-28 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
ig: Error: device "qlnxe" is unknown Is this module not available for ARM64 architecture? _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
r in a context that is not otherwise paging (nor swapping)? If yes, is the behavior different in any readily noticeable way? > This system is CometLake and graphics are not supported on 12. I am not > absolutely sure that there is not a hardware issue even though the main > board, the disk, and the keyboard/mouse pad have all been replace since I > received the system back last June. I now wonder what else could go wrong. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC3 Now Available

2021-03-22 Thread Goran Mekić via freebsd-stable
Hello, I see the RC3 in the "Latest News" but not here: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/schedule/ I hope I'm writing to the proper channels/list about this. Regards, meka signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable
On 3/20/21 10:26 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:35 AM Fred via freebsd-stable < freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote: Fred Hall via freebsd-stable writes: I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happi

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable
On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote: Fred Hall via freebsd-stable writes: I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run FreeBSD 11 and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via freebsd-update. In both cases the boot process locks up on the

Request: Mount zfs encrypted datasets at boot? Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC2 Now Available

2021-03-20 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi, > On 13 Mar 2021, at 1:11, Glen Barber wrote: > > The second RC build of the 13.0-RELEASE release cycle is now available. Might it be interesting to change the zfs mount -a / zfs unmount -a in /etc/rc.d/zfs to zfs mount -al / zfs unmount -au so that filesystems using the openzfs encryp

ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-19 Thread Fred Hall via freebsd-stable
anyone know the status of hwpstate_intel on ThinkPads? Cheers, Fred _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

13-RC2 Serial Console not accepting Input

2021-03-18 Thread Dean E. Weimer via freebsd-stable
nsole" comconsole_speed="115200" boot_serial="YES" Am I missing something else that has changed requiring a new option to be set for serial consoles? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ _______ freebsd-stable@

Re: Updating to 13-stable and existing ZFS pools: any gotchas?

2021-03-17 Thread Dean E. Weimer via freebsd-stable
On 2021-03-17 9:59 am, tech-lists wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 09:59:21AM +0100, Stefan Bethke wrote: I'm planning to upgrade three production machines with existing ZFS pools to 13-stable. Is there anything I need to pay attention to wrt OpenZFS? Or should it be fully transparent,

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
I got the idea for the question: some similarity to operational problems that I've seen when not using my patches that provide a work around matching the times better in my contexts. (I'm told the type of issue is not limited to PowerMacs, but PowerMacs are the only PowerPCish machines I've had access to. Doing the most accurate time matching gets into platform specific operations, no general solution for such accuracy. Similarly, only platform specifics might scale to lots of sockets/cores well, even without trying to be as well matched. My workaround is generic to the range of PowerMacs that I've had access to but is not as accurate about matching the times.) For your context: how many sockets? Cores per socket? Any other information that might be relevant to matching times across sockets/cores? I suppose that the board matters, not just the processor(s) in the sockets. But what all would be appropriate information? I do not know. I'm not sure if the kern.hz=100 results fit with this idea or not. (Such was never involved in my PowerMac experiments.) It is only somewhat suggestive evidence as stands. But time mismatches across socket/cores might be a direction for investigation? (Not that I've a great idea for how to investigate such.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-14 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
e system performs well unless I > do something that tries a bulk disk data move. Building world takes about 75 > minutes. I just have a very hard time building big ports. Almost like things were stuck-sleeping and then the sleep(s) finished? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusion

2021-03-14 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
I’ve updated the installation to RC2, the behaviour has changed in vmware fusion to when I installed one of the BETA releases. The initial boot fails, the system will reboot again and then it succeeds, though more predictable than with the BETAs I’m trying to see the differences in screen reco

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusion

2021-03-10 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
nteraction is a bug in VMware or an edge case that needs to be supported too. Btw, bhyve is looking nice these days! Cheers, Ruben ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusio

2021-03-09 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
> Also, I’m missing /boot/*efifat* in FreeBSD13. What is the procedure for > updating EFI loaders? > > They have been removed because they are no longer needed (filesystem images > for boot blocks trouble me too). Agree, but I’ve felt I’ve missed the memo > > mount -t msdos /dev/da0pX /mnt >

FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusio

2021-03-09 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi List, With FreeBSD 13 getting near release I was trying out a new hardware setup for a future upgrade, in where a zfs SATA RAID-10 array would be accelated by some NVME devices for cache, log, and special meta data. However, booting the setup under VMWare fusion gives me a lot of zio_read e

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable >> > wrote: >> >>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 >> >>(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 - >> >>RK3399, arm64) has changed

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
[Adding arm@ and making it clearer that this is armv8-only] On 2021-Mar-06 20:26:19 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable > wrote: >>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 >>(releng/13.0-n244592-

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: >Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 >(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 - >RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using >AES-X

geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 (releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 - RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on 13.0-BETA4. I've verified th

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
27;ll note that there are other reports of wide variance in transfer rates observed during an overall operation such as "make extract". The one I'm thinking of is: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2021-March/093251.html which is an update to earlier reports, but ba

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
gt;96 average unshared stack size >> 12288156 page reclaims >>23 page faults >> 0 swaps >> 31207 block input operations >> 175 block output operations >> 4412 messages sent >> 2536379 messages receive

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ages received > 0 signals received > 385527 voluntary context switches >369 involuntary context switches > > -- > > Differences between 13.0 and 14-CURRENT maybe related to debugging features. > > But 13.0-BETA4 is slower than 12.2. Does someon

Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a r/o mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-03-03 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All, On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:55:15AM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 02/03/2021 09:50, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 04:34:52PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori via > > freebsd-stable wrote: > > &g

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 and slow IO

2021-03-02 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a r/o mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-03-01 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All, On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 04:34:52PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote: > Hello Helge, and thank you for replying again. > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:43:52PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: > > > Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Sat, 27

Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-02-27 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello Helge, and thank you for replying again. On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:43:52PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: > Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:00:24 +0100 > (CET): > > On the memstick, the root filesystem is mounted read-only. I > > apolog

Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-02-27 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello Helge, Kevin, and thank you for replying. On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 09:21:39AM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: > Kevin P. Neal wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 03:04:35 +0100 (CET): > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:25:05PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: > > > Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-s

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