Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT

2001-04-01 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
Man, people are still reading those instructions? :-) I agree that they're wrong but I'm about to go off the air for 4 days in about 10 minutes here so I can't fix them myself. If anyone would care to do the honors, I'd appreciate it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: How to Create a FreeBSD iso image

2000-08-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I've also sent this mail to the author of print-cdrom-packages.sh. That's still a shell script which is evolving. At my last attempt at this, I tried to rewrite it to read an ASCII text file instead since it was getting too annoying to have to hand-code in all those package entries, but I got

Re: /stand/sysinstall cannot find any disks ?

2000-08-15 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Better be quick or it will be adopted by an Amnesty activist group.. ;-) > In other words: I meet an increasing number of people who use sysinstall > for all sorts of stuff and love it. I'm sure the functionality it provides is appreciated and the desire to provide such functionality is why I

src code freeze is over for RELENG_4

2000-07-27 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
You may now go back to whacking on the RELENG_4 branch with the usual degree of -stable discretion. Good release, guys. Next stop is 4.2-RELEASE in mid-November 2000! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag?

2000-07-26 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > rebuild in general or what? I'm not sure I understand the question.. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag?

2000-07-26 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Argh! I knew I'd forgotten something, but at 4:30am I just couldn't remember what.. :-) I've also just recently moved machines and I couldn't find my TODO list from 4.0, so what's long been on my checklist of things to verify just didn't get checked. Not a crisis in any case since I'd still not

Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH!

2000-07-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I do occasionally get this under both RELENG_3 and RELENG_4 machines > running moused and X when using logictech ps2 mice. I haven't had > it happen with non-logictech mice.. I should note that I'm also using Logitech (MouseMan) PS/2 mice in all these situations. Sorry, it's my standard

Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH!

2000-07-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> FWIW, I have almost _never_ seen this. The only time I ever get this is > if I am moving the mouse when I hit the console switch on my 4-port console > switch, but it corrects itself almost instantaneously. There must be something in my kernel configuration which competes for interrupts or som

Re: 5.0-STABLE?

2000-07-15 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Saw in a message earlier today someone > mention 5-0-STABLE, does it exist? No. Somebody is about a year early if they're talking about it now. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> 1. The other 1199 new FreeBSD CD-ROM customers you need to get, are they more >likely to be CVSUPping, mailing-list tracking, make-worlding-since-2.0.1 The people who buy the CDs tend to be more "expert" in nature, it's the newcomers who generally FTP install the system. >experience?

Re: 4.1 disks

2000-07-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Bob clearly has forgotten all the problems we had in trying to do this at all. - Jordan > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 23:34:47 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:21:21PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > > jkh has been working this for some time, but AFAIK there is not yet

Re: 4.1 disks

2000-07-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
e.. ;-) > > -Richard > > > > > --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > > > Sadly, there is no room for the

Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?

2000-07-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Either that or we'll just revert Dag's changes. He's not allowed to break 3.5-stable. - Jordan > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > > Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on > >FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines > >directl

Re: 3.5 CD set (was: Re: 4.1 disks)

2000-07-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I didn't know there was going to be a 3.5 CD set. I announced it here several times. :) > If I understand things - subscribers will *not* automatically receive > this CD set... can the 3.5 CD set be ordered from Walnut Creek, > err... um... BSDI? Correct. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send

Re: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule

2000-05-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Will FreeBSD 4.1 be released on schedule? > If so, does someone tell me when it will be? Yes, it will be released on July 15th. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility

2000-04-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Are there any 3rd party NIC klds yet? NTMK. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility

2000-04-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> So you guys (core) choose -- do you want 4.x to reap the benefits of > further SMP development or not? I've read all the feedback on this thread and now feel that it would be worthwhile to simply bring the SMP changes in on Wednesday. As others have pointed out, we don't have enough 3r

Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs

2000-04-18 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Failing that, a greppable index of what distfile is on which CD would > be quite nice, and something I've missed on earlier CDs. I could certainly make a super-set INDEX file with some sort of CD# field (I'd have to extend or munge the current INDEX format) available on each of the CDs, sure.

Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs

2000-04-18 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Anyhow, it would be _very_ nice if there could be some mechanism set up in > .../distfiles, which just symlinks to the right CD of the toolkit. This way, I'm not sure there's any way to force the user to insert the right CD of a 6 CD toolkit for an arbitrary port. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe

Re: 4.0, OpenSSL and MD5 (fwd)

2000-04-13 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
No, Doug is actually wrong about this. The NO and YES values are checked and do make a difference. - Jordan > At 12:56 pm -0700 13/4/00, Doug Barton wrote: > >or it is not defined. The entries in /etc/make.conf could be set equal to > >"hairy blue pelicans" and it would not matter. In make.conf

Re: 4.0 OpenSSH not working, cannot find RSAREF lib

2000-04-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I'm having trouble with the new OpenSSH in 4.0 (both -release & > -stable as of today, Saturday, 8 April). /usr/ports/security/rsaref Make and install it. Pretty straight-forward. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the m

Re: Attachments request -OOOOOPS

2000-04-05 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
What the hell? If mangling his message and sending it back to the entire mailing list was some sort of joke, I'm not laughing. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: Package creation

2000-04-03 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> How do I create my own packages? I read pkg_create(1) and it stated that > one should use a frontend for package creation. Which one, where to find > it? "One should use one as soon as someone writes such a thing" is probably what the man page should actually say. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe:

Re: Let 3.x die ASAP?

2000-03-29 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Goodbye, Mr Derny. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: Let 3.x die ASAP?

2000-03-29 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I can understand wanting to play with the newer stuff. But I'm not > committing bread-n-butter to anything not cooked in the field for a > while. I'll let others pioneer. So when I see the raft of "I just > upgraded my 3.x machine to 4.0" messages, my first reaction is > "Why?" and my second

Re: Parallel port in GENERIC (Was FreeBSD 3.4 and printing)

2000-02-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Jordan, might I remind you that this is a volunteer project, and nobody > with the right skills and appropriate knowledge seems to be concerned > enough to spend hours working out a fix for a problem that can be solved > changing a "net" to a "tty" on the kernel configuration file? Might I > the

Re: Parallel port in GENERIC (Was FreeBSD 3.4 and printing)

2000-02-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I really don't like special-casing this for the installation. There's got to be a more technically correct solution for this and I urge you guys to pursue it. :) - Jordan > Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > > > It's fine that GENERIC is used for installation. But, GENERIC is > > supposed to be for "g

Re: Problems with FreeBSD stable

2000-02-09 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Anyway I'm wondering if experiences like the above are grounds for > filing a problem report. Since I'm tracking the `stable' branch, I > don't expect updating the OS will cause my development system to stop > working. Is this a reasonable expectation? It is a reasonable expectation and you m

Re: 4.4 BSD forever?

2000-01-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> At 11:13 AM 1/8/00 -0500, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > >Just because other people do silly things with version numbers, doesn't > >mean FreeBSD has to. Logical version numbers that are easy to compare > >are a _good_ thing. > > And then things start happening like 3.5 coming out after 4.0... Whic

Re: 4.4 BSD forever?

2000-01-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Let's not forget, though, that FreeBSD jumped versions from 2.2.2 to > 2.2.5. :) Because we used the numbers for different things back then. In the earlier days, the revision number was used as a "timeline indicator" where each branch would start at .0 and move to .9 (whether any releases occu

Re: Don't use the "custom" install option for 3.4

1999-12-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I wouldn't assume anything, but I'll certainly TRY to fix this and roll some updated floppies. :) - Jordan > Jordan wrote: > > > > Yes, there was a big rush with christmas this year or I would > > not have released at all. Ah well, it's not like it leaves one > > with no way to install FreeBSD

Re: Don't use the "custom" install option for 3.4

1999-12-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Yes, there was a big rush with christmas this year or I would not have released at all. Ah well, it's not like it leaves one with no way to install FreeBSD at all. - Jordan > On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 10:31:17PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > It's broken, sorry (I usu

Re: 3.4-19991219-STABLE upgrade crash

1999-12-20 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
All of these issues have been addressed today. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer?

1999-12-02 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I saw this question a lot in the archives. Would this be a good one for > the FAQ? Any question you see a lot in the archives is, by definition, good for a FAQ entry. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: StarOffice 5 on a SMP system..... or Applixware...

1999-11-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> 1) How well does ApplixWare handle MS Office97 files? I don't know what you mean by Office97 since there is a whole host of file formats encompassed in that phrase. If you're asking if it reads word files, it does. If you're asking if it reads Excel files, it also does that. If you're asking

Re: PowerPak

1999-09-20 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> It occurs to me that WC could engage in some underhand but productive > marketing by quietly repurchasing the stock from Compusa shelves, thereby Heh, happily, we haven't even had to consider such a thing since first-time availability, coupled with CompUSA's "competetive pricing" (read: a sligh

Re: PowerPak

1999-09-20 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> NUMBER on the box, and no indication as to how many CDs of "stuff" are > inside -- both pretty important to attract first-time users, when box-size > and price are the only visible factors to separate you from the nearby The only box version ever released so far has been 3.2, so the customer g

Re: 3.3-R: passwd dependencies

1999-09-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> /usr/bin/passwd from bin packages of 3.3-RELEASE wants libraries: > libkadm.so.3 > libkrb.so.3 > libdes.so.3 > > Is it correct? ;( My fault - I forgot to update the bin directory of 3.3-RELEASE on ftp.freebsd.org after fixing this one. I did remember to update the ISO image t

Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box...

1999-08-28 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
A user who may well have been smoking crack at the time but has nonetheless found an "interesting" bug sent me this procedure: Use this small perl script to create a file with 3000 spaces in it: #!/usr/bin/perl open FOO, ">foo.img" or die "can't open foo; $!\n"; for ($i=0;$i<3000;$i++){print FOO

Re: seg fault in mutex_queue_enq

1999-07-15 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Jordan should have to say something about this. AFAIR, bumps are > allowed but only by one between releases. We will have to provide > libc_r.so.3 in /usr/lib/compat/compat3x, though (we'll have to do this > anyway by the time 4.x is released). I'd prefer not to bump it... John Birrell and I