Re: skype stalls on RELENG_7 ?

2009-06-19 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:34:38PM -0400, Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote: > On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:27 +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > Hi, > > i am not sure what the situation is but i am starting > > seeing problems with skype (both 2.0 and 1.2) on a > > couple of RELENG_7 machines. One of the mac

Re: skype stalls on RELENG_7 ?

2009-06-19 Thread Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:27 +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > Hi, > i am not sure what the situation is but i am starting > seeing problems with skype (both 2.0 and 1.2) on a > couple of RELENG_7 machines. One of the machines still uses > linux 2.4 emulation and fc4, the other one has 2.6.16 and fc8 > an

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC (new issue)

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 07:08 PM 6/19/2009, Michael Gass wrote: I am still confused about the rl driver not working for this card. The NOTES in /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES explicitly state that the rl driver is for the DFE-530TX+ and that the vr driver is for the DFE-530TX. The manufacturer could have changed chipse

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC (new issue)

2009-06-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 06:08:02PM -0500, Michael Gass wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:24:29PM -0500, Michael Gass wrote: > > I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with > > a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the > > correct driver for this card is rl driver. T

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC (new issue)

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Gass
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:24:29PM -0500, Michael Gass wrote: > I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with > a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the > correct driver for this card is rl driver. The kernel > insists on using the vr driver which is for the DFE-530TX.

Patch for FreeBSD 7.0 deadlock

2009-06-19 Thread Santosh Rao Gururajan
I am seeing problems with FreeBSD 7.0 machines that have the symptoms described in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-June/043241.html Can someone please point me to a patch which has a fix for the issue described in that thread? Thanks, -santosh

skype stalls on RELENG_7 ?

2009-06-19 Thread Luigi Rizzo
Hi, i am not sure what the situation is but i am starting seeing problems with skype (both 2.0 and 1.2) on a couple of RELENG_7 machines. One of the machines still uses linux 2.4 emulation and fc4, the other one has 2.6.16 and fc8 and is a fresh install of 7.2 In both cases, i see that skype remain

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Kip Macy
> I agree, this shouldn't necessarily be treated as flamebait or trolling. > > But shouldn't the question be redirected to the advocacy mailing > list/team? Yes. This list is for targeted technical questions. It isn't realistic to expect a discussion of this nature to stay on-topic. -Kip

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Jun 2009 at 11:23:26 PDT Michael R. Wayne wrote: OK, I'm going to take a guess here that English may not be Michal's primary language and re-ask his question: Given the several versions of *BSD, I have been led to understand that each excells in different ways. How do I select wh

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Kip Macy wrote: > Individuals in each of the camps (Free, Open, Net) are frequently > deeply invested in their platforms of choice to the point where they > identify with them. In addition, many if not most of us are only > familiar with one of them. Thus, it isn'

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread pan
- Original Message - From: "Mike Tancsa" To: "Michael Gass" ; Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC : At 01:24 PM 6/19/2009, Michael Gass wrote: : >I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with : >a D-Link DFE-530TX+ ca

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday 19 June 2009 1:24:29 pm Michael Gass wrote: > I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with > a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the > correct driver for this card is rl driver. The kernel > insists on using the vr driver which is for the DFE-530TX. > >From

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Kip Macy
Individuals in each of the camps (Free, Open, Net) are frequently deeply invested in their platforms of choice to the point where they identify with them. In addition, many if not most of us are only familiar with one of them. Thus, it isn't really fair to ask us to compare the three. You will enjo

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Michael R. Wayne
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 06:23:09AM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2009 04:47:35 Michal wrote: > > > > "Comparing FreeBSD and OpenBSD, FreeBSD is generally better at disk-related > > I/O whereas OpenBSD handles net-I/O better. No test has been carried out to > > prove this though." >

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread Ivailo Bonev
- Original Message - From: "Michael Gass" To: Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the correct driver for this card is rl

Fw: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread Ivailo Bonev
- Original Message - From: "Ivailo Bonev" To: "Michael Gass" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC - Original Message - From: "Michael Gass" To: Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: kernel wants the wrong

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread Freddie Cash
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Michael Gass wrote: > I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with > a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the > correct driver for this card is rl driver. The kernel > insists on using the vr driver which is for the DFE-530TX. > >From

Re: kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 01:24 PM 6/19/2009, Michael Gass wrote: I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the What does pciconfig -lvc show ? ---Mike ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing lis

kernel wants the wrong driver for my NIC

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Gass
I'm running 7.2-stable and I replaced an old ISA NIC with a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card. According to the manual, the correct driver for this card is rl driver. The kernel insists on using the vr driver which is for the DFE-530TX. >From what I can tell, the two cards have different chipsets and so t

Re: HEADSUP: libpthread compat for 5.x and 6.x binaries

2009-06-19 Thread Stef Walter
John Baldwin wrote: > What I would like to find out is if there are any 5.x or 6.x binaries that > use > libpthread that do not run well with libthr. You can test this by using a > libmap.conf(5) file to remap libpthread to libthr. For 5.x binaries you will > want to remap libpthread.so.1 to

RES: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread ricardo
All simply rocks...be xBSD... be Linux, be *nix... whatever.. Just use the right tool for a specific need... We are running Free, Open and Netand some decent Linux such as Debian, Red Hat among others...Love all of them... -Mensagem original- De: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [mail

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Michal escreveu: It wasn't an argument or a versus anything. It was just a question relating to what he had said and the truth in it and the two OS's being used for different reasons. That's all. No rage, no debate or looking for any winner! -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.or

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread neal hogan
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:02:40PM +0100, Michal wrote: > It wasn't an argument or a versus anything. It was just a question relating > to what he had said and the truth in it and the two OS's being used for > different reasons. That's all. No rage, no debate or looking for any winner! To be fair,

Re: Upgrade from 7.1-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE through freebsd update

2009-06-19 Thread Erwan David
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 09:15:05AM CEST, Erwan David said: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 08:56:03AM CEST, Doug Barton said: > > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:34:54AM +0200, Erwan David typed: > > >> I tried to upgrade my 7.1-RELEASE into 7.2-RELEASE. However > > >> freebsd-u

routing, pf, rdr question

2009-06-19 Thread giuliano
Hello, I'm trying to replace our current firewall (clavister) with freebsd/pf. I'm almost done but I have some rules I don't know how to convert. I've tried googling around but I've found nothing useful (maybe I'm looking for the wrong terms). I have the following scenario: LAN (192.168.1.0/

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Ruben van Staveren
On 19 Jun 2009, at 14:02, Timo Schoeler wrote: Sure, each one has its own merits over the others and vice versa. Above all, they contribute to the genetic diversity in the operating system pool. Which is a good thing. - Ruben ___ freebsd-stabl

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Timo Schoeler
thus dem...@thephinix.org spake: Oh why can't this versus this versus that never dies? There had been raging debate about which OSes is much better compared to the others since time immemorial. Sure, each one has its own merits over the others and vice versa. Exactly. So why feeding this iss

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread demuel
Oh why can't this versus this versus that never dies? There had been raging debate about which OSes is much better compared to the others since time immemorial. Sure, each one has its own merits over the others and vice versa. So why feeding this issue up since up to this very moment, there is no w

RE: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Michal
It wasn't an argument or a versus anything. It was just a question relating to what he had said and the truth in it and the two OS's being used for different reasons. That's all. No rage, no debate or looking for any winner! -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m..

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Cem Kayali
I agree. Thanks for reminding. I will not reply to this one anymore. Regards, Cem dem...@thephinix.org, 06/19/09 14:41: Oh why can't this versus this versus that never dies? There had been raging debate about which OSes is much better compared to the others since time immemorial. Sure, each o

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Cem Kayali
I have used NetBSD several years on mainly amd64 platform, and these are + properties. - Xen support and boot NetBSD as dom0 and a Linux ie; Ubuntu as domU. - Clean design of rc.d scripts. Also NetBSD does not automatically populate rc.d scripts, user adds sample one (displayed after install

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Oliver Pinter
and the security is in netbsd: http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?security+8+NetBSD-5.0 http://www.netbsd.org/~elad/recent/recent06.pdf On 6/19/09, Ivan Voras wrote: > Kim Attree wrote: > >> NetBSD runs on just about anything. That's it's primary goal. Since I >> don't >> have any weird hard

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 19 June 2009 04:47:35 Michal wrote: > Someone once said this too me > > "Comparing FreeBSD and OpenBSD, FreeBSD is generally better at disk-related > I/O whereas OpenBSD handles net-I/O better. No test has been carried out to > prove this though." > > Every offence to the person which sai

Re: xorg and intel driver

2009-06-19 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 18/06/2009 20:34 Nenhum_de_Nos said the following: > hail, > > I know this was here before, > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-March/004775.html, > but there was no happy ending there ... > > is there any news ? > > I have a STABLE from yesterday and the xorg is too muc

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Cem Kayali
Hi, Well basically, you need to pay for additional security implementations, and this sometimes costs decrease in performance --- though i think i can always pay for that... Regards, Cem Kim Attree, 06/19/09 12:16: You'll struggle to find a proper apples-to-apples test to prove/disprove th

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Ivan Voras
Kim Attree wrote: NetBSD runs on just about anything. That's it's primary goal. Since I don't have any weird hardware, I've never had a use for NetBSD. I don't use NetBSD either but some recent development that come from that camp are very interesting: * Journalling UFS ("smart" journalling

Re: Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Holger Kipp
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 09:47:35AM +0100, Michal wrote: > Someone once said this too me > > "Comparing FreeBSD and OpenBSD, FreeBSD is generally better at disk-related > I/O whereas OpenBSD handles net-I/O better. No test has been carried out to > prove this though." > > Every offence to the perso

Open Vs Free BSD

2009-06-19 Thread Michal
Someone once said this too me "Comparing FreeBSD and OpenBSD, FreeBSD is generally better at disk-related I/O whereas OpenBSD handles net-I/O better. No test has been carried out to prove this though." Every offence to the person which said this, but they are not the best admin ever, though

weird problem w/ ZFS not reclaiming freed space

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Andrews
Somehow I've managed to get ZFS on one of my machines into a state where it won't reclaim all space after deleting files AND snapshots off of it: (this is with 7.2-STABLE amd64, compiled June 10) # ls -la /weird total 4 drwxr-x--- 2 mysql mysql 2 Jun 19 02:42 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root wheel

Re: Upgrade from 7.1-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE through freebsd update

2009-06-19 Thread Erwan David
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 08:56:03AM CEST, Doug Barton said: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:34:54AM +0200, Erwan David typed: > >>I tried to upgrade my 7.1-RELEASE into 7.2-RELEASE. However > >> freebsd-update kept asking me to merge every file in /etc whose $Id$ > >> lin