Re: recovering from the 6.3 xorg mess

2008-03-19 Thread peter stern
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:23:09 -0800 (AKDT) From: peter stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is an ugly way to have to deal with X. So this definitely means the mga driver is broken? I would appreciate a copy of your xorg.conf Thanks for your suggestions.

machine wedged -> KDB: enter: lock violation

2008-03-19 Thread Brad Pitney
Not sure why it keeps wedging, at first I thought it was something to do with the LORs, now after adding some more debugging options I think I might have found the answer! KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper(c074b5ee,e70599ac,c05b6853,c4a9e000,e70599ac,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 k

Re[2]: Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Mike, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 9:32:13 PM, you wrote: >>Also, I believe there was a report from another user who saw similar >>issues with em(4), and found that disabling MSI fixed the storm in >>question. I believe you can disable MSI/MSIX by placing the following >>in /boot/loader.conf

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Kevin K wrote: > > That said: I do understand what you're saying, and yes, I can see why > > you would want that. It does make sense, and it's reasonable. It's > > just hard to achieve. I don't think other mainstream OSes (e.g. Linux) > > offer this abil

Re: Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 02:06 PM 3/19/2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 06:53:36PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# vmstat -i > > interrupt total rate > > irq1: atkbd0 12

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Marko Lerota wrote: > This thing should be solved. I liked the way that my OS have > independance from ports. Well, they are not really completely independent. The ports still use libraries from the base OS, e.g. libc, threading libraries etc. Please try to understand the following simple examp

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Brad Pitney
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Kevin K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That said: I do understand what you're saying, and yes, I can see why > > you would want that. It does make sense, and it's reasonable. It's > > just hard to achieve. I don't think other mainstream OSes (e.g. Linux) > > o

Re[2]: Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Oliver, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 6:53:36 PM, you wrote: > Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] > It's preferable to send mail as a real user, not as root, > for various reasons. I know, I've just forgot to edit the headers, my apologies. >> I have to report, that I have a

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 19, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Marko Lerota wrote: This thing should be solved. I liked the way that my OS have independance from ports. So no metter what I do with ports, my OS and his apps will work. And If I upgrade the OS I dont want to recompile ports for that. The traditional mechanism

RE: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Kevin K
> That said: I do understand what you're saying, and yes, I can see why > you would want that. It does make sense, and it's reasonable. It's > just hard to achieve. I don't think other mainstream OSes (e.g. Linux) > offer this ability either, though. Am I wrong? Redhat's up2date/yum ? I'm not

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:43:25PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: > If you use BSD system only for few apps like PHP/Apache/MySQL it would > be easy. But if you have lots of stuff for desktop machine (gnome,xfce etc.) > it's very painful, long, and waste of time. (I don't have x386 33MHz CPU) > > T

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Marko Lerota
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are you connected via a modem or something? 2-3 days to download some > packages cannot be right if you have a decent internet connection. No I have 5Mbps link. It's not the link issue. It's the compilation time from ports because there are only small

Re: Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 06:53:36PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# vmstat -i > > interrupt total rate > > irq1: atkbd0 12 0 > > irq16: ohci0

Re: Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] It's preferable to send mail as a real user, not as root, for various reasons. > I have to report, that I have a very strange cpu usage by system (as > the `top' reports). You haven't mentioned what exactly you think is strange in your top(1) ou

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Vincent Mialon
Le Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:41:21 Vivek Khera, vous avez écrit : > On Mar 19, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > My server is live and serving customers. I can't afford to take the > > box down for a whole day while I upgrade ports. Is there any > > intelligent way to do this? > > Here'

Re: +rtfree: 0xffffff0003635780 has 1 refs

2008-03-19 Thread Danny Pansters
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 14:28:28 John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday 18 March 2008 06:09:46 pm Danny Pansters wrote: > > On Monday 17 March 2008 20:55:01 Stefan Lambrev wrote: > > > Greetings Dave, > > > > > > Dave Overton wrote: > > > > I am new to the AMD64 stable branch, so forgive me if this ha

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Vivek Khera
On Mar 19, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote: My server is live and serving customers. I can't afford to take the box down for a whole day while I upgrade ports. Is there any intelligent way to do this? Here's what you do: 1) take one server at a time down from the load balancer/worker

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Markiyan Kushnir
It's amazing -- I also did my recent 6.3->7.0 exactly this way. Running it as a desktop, WindowMaker, some of gnu apps. kde is at hand mostly for a couple of applications, but it works ok either. My case is much simpler, but I feel that it's worth of considering alternatives to portupgrade. I

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:46:07PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote: > My server is live and serving customers. I can't afford to take the > box down for a whole day while I upgrade ports. Is there any > intelligent way to do this? The ways people have given you are proper *and* intelligent. I think

Re: +rtfree: 0xffffff0003635780 has 1 refs

2008-03-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 06:09:46 pm Danny Pansters wrote: > On Monday 17 March 2008 20:55:01 Stefan Lambrev wrote: > > Greetings Dave, > > > > Dave Overton wrote: > > > I am new to the AMD64 stable branch, so forgive me if this has been > > > beat to death, but I can't find why this message keeps

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Michael Grant
My server is live and serving customers. I can't afford to take the box down for a whole day while I upgrade ports. Is there any intelligent way to do this? For example, could I do everything on a second disk while running the live system on the first disk? For example using a chroot so it thin

Re: [Working fix] Problems combining nss_ldap/pam_ldap with pam_mkhomedir in FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Dmitriy Kirhlarov
Daniel Bond wrote: |> /usr/local/etc/nss_ldap.conf -> openldap/ldap.conf |> /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf -> openldap/ldap.conf | | I'm not sure is it correct. | etc/ldap.conf and etc/openldap/ldap.conf -- different files for | different purposes. | etc/nss_ldap.conf -> etc/ldap.conf -- it's correct.

Re: [Working fix] Problems combining nss_ldap/pam_ldap with pam_mkhomedir in FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Daniel Bond
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! Dmitriy Kirhlarov wrote: | Hi! | | Daniel Bond wrote: | |> I'm pretty sure my ldap.conf and nsswitch.conf are OK, but here they are |> anyway: |> |> |> /usr/local/etc/nss_ldap.conf -> openldap/ldap.conf |> /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf -> openldap

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Hello Marko, I'm very sorry that you have trouble updating your FreeBSD installation, but there are very good technical reasons to update your packages, as others have already explained in detail (i.e. library conflicts). When I updated my home workstation from FreeBSD 6 to 7, I used the opportun

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Angelo Turetta
Kris Kennaway wrote: Kevin Oberman wrote: Or, is the system failing to retrieve the packages and failing over to building the ports? This would take a long time! I always tee the output of portupgrade to a file so, if it dies in the middle, it's pretty easy to pick up where it left off and not

Weird system cpu usage

2008-03-19 Thread Charlie Root
Hello, I have to report, that I have a very strange cpu usage by system (as the `top' reports). The given box does not currently run any threaded applications (only lighttpd and php-fcgi with 80 children, maybe 100 reqs/s), but I can see the same behavior on almost identical machine which is runn