Re: make world every week?

2001-07-24 Thread John Merryweather Cooper
On 2001.07.24 19:41 jett wrote: > im running freebsd 4.3-stable and every friday night i'm updating my > sources via cvsup. my question is do i have to always build the world > after every cvsup so that i may stay stable? > > jett > Please turn off the double-pump of HTML. It makes replying a

RE: make world every week?

2001-07-24 Thread Todd Punderson
I don't. I just run a buildworld/makeworld when there is a security advisory. That gives me an excuse to go through the process. Your milage my vary.. Todd -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jettSent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:

make world every week?

2001-07-24 Thread jett
im running freebsd 4.3-stable and every friday night i'm updating my sources via cvsup. my question is do i have to always build the world after every cvsup so that i may stay stable?   jett

Is KDE 2.x.x Media Player (Noatun) working under FreeBSD?

2001-07-24 Thread Sung Nae Cho
Hi, Has anyone one figure out how to get the media player in KDE 2.1.1 (Noatun) to work in FreeBSD? I don't know whether it's an incompatibility between KDE and FreeBSD or just a misconfiguration. Sung N. Cho To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" i

Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken

2001-07-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:12:25PM -0700, Ray Kohler wrote: > 7/24/01 5:04:04 PM, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 > >> Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, Ju

Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time!

2001-07-24 Thread Scott Taggart
Hahaha, couldn't be put any better than that! I think our solution is just to have one windows machine to watch lara croft and her jiggly breasts which crashs all the time and loads of FreeBSD machines to use while the windows one doesn't work! Rgds. Scott Taggart - Original Message - Fr

cvsup via socks5

2001-07-24 Thread James Satterfield
I'm having a very difficult time getting cvsup to run via socks5. I'm using socks5 from to ports for a socks client. Here's a little snippit of what's happening. jester# telnet cvsup2.freebsd.org 5999 Trying 205.149.189.91... telnet: connect to address 205.149.189.91: Connection refused

is there any known problem in termcap/libncurses?

2001-07-24 Thread hosang yoon
hi, there i have a problem to type multi-byte language in BitchX and mutt(not in editor mode, but in-line text type mode such as 'subject' line) after 'make world' to 4.3-STABLE on july 11, 2001. of course, there were not any problem before the system rebuild date. one more interesting things a

Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken

2001-07-24 Thread Ray Kohler
7/24/01 5:04:04 PM, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 >> Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: >> > >> > > Something c

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Chan Tur Wei
Hi, You can't search, but you can browse... Regards -T.W.Chan- On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:12:18 +1000 > From: Gregory Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jordan Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"..

Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've beenoutta school for long long time!

2001-07-24 Thread jack
Yes, I have been out of school for a long long time. Therefore I know that there's a lot more to the world than school junior. In the real world where my income, my partners' income, and my employees income depend on the reliablility of the service we sell I need a reliable server OS and FreeBSD

Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread John Merryweather Cooper
On 2001.07.24 10:09 j mckitrick wrote: > > For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show > any > performance improvement? > > jcm > -- > o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o > | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | > | "I prefer the term 'Art

Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken

2001-07-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 > Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > > > > > Something committed recently (within the last 24 hours) has broken > > > network

Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread Kent Stewart
Jason Andresen wrote: > > j mckitrick wrote: > > > > For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any > > performance improvement? > > It's hard to tell. You might try switching it on for a week and see > if YOU notice any difference. If it doesn't seem to do anythi

Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread Jason Andresen
j mckitrick wrote: > > For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any > performance improvement? It's hard to tell. You might try switching it on for a week and see if YOU notice any difference. If it doesn't seem to do anything for you, then just turn it back off

Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread j mckitrick
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:12:41AM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: | On 2001.07.24 10:09 j mckitrick wrote: | > | > For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show | > any | > performance improvement? | > | > jcm | > -- | > o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: probably remote exploit

2001-07-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 03:56:26 +0200 (SAST) The Psychotic Viper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: TV> Sure it takes time to to backup user data, reinstall of multiple machines TV> but it may save a lot of time when you have to keep rebuilding your TV> machine because your visitor keeps getting back in. A

Re: is "stable" "stable"?

2001-07-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:52:49 +0200 (CEST) "A. L. Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AM> A comparison: AM> Debian GNU/Linux has 3 trees: 1. stable 2. testing 3. unstable RELENG_4_3, RELENG_4, 'Top of Tree' (in CVS terms) security, stable, current(in release name ter

Re: Updating to the new telnetd

2001-07-24 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gunnar Flygt writes: > I have a machine running 4.3-RELEASE cvsuped via the RELENG_4_3 branch. > What's the best way to see to that I have the new telnetd on the > machine? I saw that the cvsup gave me a lot of changes to the telnetd > files, but also to two other f

question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread j mckitrick
For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any performance improvement? jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Mike Hoskins
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > What ridiculous, unsubstantiated flame-bait. Call it lack of coffee and a bad hangover. After reading your post, the issue becomes clearer. To be honest, I immediately assumed an argumentative stance because the (most recent) thread was started with

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: Mike Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1".. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) > Unfortuneately then, the reason I chose FreeBSD (server-tuned OS) so > many years ago is no longer valid. Of course, I knew this would What ridiculous, unsubstantiate

Re: APM bug?

2001-07-24 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Morten Vinding Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:27:30 +0100 > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Just remove the "disable", recompile and your kernel will have APM support. > > Btw. is there another way of enabling a disabled device, than boot using > boot -c and enable

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Tue 2001-07-24 (12:14), Mixtim wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:12:58AM -0700, Mike Hoskins wrote: > > Hmm. I hope the response to recent performance tests was /not/ to make a > > potentially unsafe option 'default'. > > Its only unsafe if you lose power. I think that anyone running a > "s

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Jordan Hubbard
Don't resurrect this thread - it already ran long enough the first time and had plenty of argument advanced on both sides. Go read the mailing list archives if you feel a deepseated personal need to go through the decision process in agonizing detail because that's what we did already. - Jordan

Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"......

2001-07-24 Thread Mike Hoskins
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Shawn Workman wrote: > > Its only unsafe if you lose power. I think that anyone running a > > "server" without a UPS deserves to lose data. First, there's an infinite number of variables that can lead to power loss. Think about it. > Especially the ones without recent back