Breakpoint 2015 Call For Presentations

2015-05-17 Thread cfp
Breakpoint 2015 Call For Papers Melbourne, Australia, October 22th-23th Intercontinental Rialto http://www.ruxconbreakpoint.com .[x]. Introduction .[x]. We are pleased to announce Call For Presentations for Breakpoint 2015. Breakpoint showcases the work of expert security researchers from aro

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Mark Felder
On Sat, May 16, 2015, at 01:38, Dan Lukes wrote: > Mark Felder wrote: > >> Base OpenSSL in still supported releases is too old version and doesn't > >> support TLS 1.2 as well. > >> > >> Either TLS 1.0 is so insecure and should not be used, or is secure > >> enough for FreeBSD. > > > When the Fr

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Mel Pilgrim
On 2015-05-16 07:20, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: Mark Felder wrote: Another option is a second openssl port, one that overwrites base and guarantees compatibility with RELEASE. Then we could at least have all versions of openssl in vuln.xml (no

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Roger Marquis
You're not understanding the situation: the vulnerability isn't in OpenSSL; it's a design flaw / weakness in the protocol. This is why everyone is running like mad from SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0. Right, there are two issues being discussed that should be separated. The thread was originally about SSL

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, May 17, 2015, at 15:50, Roger Marquis wrote: > > You're not understanding the situation: the vulnerability isn't in > > OpenSSL; it's a design flaw / weakness in the protocol. This is why > > everyone is running like mad from SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0. > > Right, there are two issues being dis

pkg audit / vuln.xml failures

2015-05-17 Thread Roger Marquis
Does anyone know what's going on with vuln.xml updates? Over the last few weeks and months CVEs and application mailing lists have announced vulnerabilities for several ports that in some cases only showed up in vuln.xml after several days and in other cases are still not listed (despite email to

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Roger Marquis
Mark Felder wrote: Considering the time to write and test patches is the same in either case it is still an open question. Again, this is not possible. You can't just "replace" the base OpenSSL. That port or package would also have to replace every binary and library in the base system linked

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Leif Pedersen
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: > I recommended an openssl_base port so that > security vulnerabilities (not necessarily protocol weaknesses) could be > more easily remediated (than installworld) and so 'pkg audit' could > report on those. > Exactly how would that differ fr

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, May 17, 2015, at 16:08, Roger Marquis wrote: > Mark Felder wrote: > >> Considering the time to write and test patches is the same in either case > >> it is still an open question. > > > Again, this is not possible. You can't just "replace" the base OpenSSL. > > That port or package would

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Dan Lukes
On 05/17/15 22:20, Mark Felder: You're not understanding the situation: the vulnerability isn't in OpenSSL; it's a design flaw / weakness in the protocol. Sorry, my English seems to be so poor so you don't understand my very simple question. You are still answering other questions I didn't ask

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Roger Marquis
Mark Felder wrote: Sure, when you must change the ABI you also have to rebuild linked libs and bins, but how many openssl 0.9 updates have required ABI changes? This entire discussion has been about doing MAJOR updates to OpenSSL in base. I agree that this discussion has been about updates to

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, May 17, 2015, at 16:28, Dan Lukes wrote: > On 05/17/15 22:20, Mark Felder: > > You're not understanding the situation: the vulnerability isn't in > > OpenSSL; it's a design flaw / weakness in the protocol. > > Sorry, my English seems to be so poor so you don't understand my very > simpl

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Dan Lukes
On 05/18/15 00:00, Mark Felder: If TLS 1.0 is considered severe security issue AND system utilities are using it, why there is no Security Advisory describing this system vulnerability ? It's not a vulnerability in software, it's weakness in the protocol design. Like protocol protocol downgr

Re: Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?

2015-05-17 Thread Leif Pedersen
On May 17, 2015 4:49 PM, "Roger Marquis" wrote: > Leif Pedersen wrote: >>> >>> ... more easily remediated (than installworld) and so 'pkg audit' could >> >> report on those. >> >> Exactly how would that differ from using freebsd-update? > > > You mean aside from being locally compiled? Does freeb