Re: "portmaster --list-origins" question

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:44:57 +0100 Christer Solskogen wrote: >On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Did I misunderstand something about the --list-origins opti= >on? =C2=A0Or have >> I run into a bug? =C2=A0Any suggestions of how to proceed would be welcom=

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 12/30/11 16:39, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500, David Jackson wrote: However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, [...] That kind of statement doesn't fit well to FreeBSD which is known for its excellent documentation, often considered superior to other open s

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote: > I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled > by the team though. http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > However, there are differences in how you judge documentation > to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a > different story. Then talk to a "Windows" person and explain > what documentation is, and he'll tell you that yo

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 12/30/11 22:15, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: However, there are differences in how you judge documentation to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a different story. Then talk to a "Windows" person and explain what documentation is,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 12/30/11 22:11, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote: I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled by the team though. http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels Ha! There you go... I've only just been finding out about the value of irc in the recent

Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:13:24PM -0800, UFS User wrote: > I have run a lot of different FreeBSD systems off (fileservers, firewalls, > routers, etc.) off of compact flash cards[1] and have never had a CF part > fail. > > Most of these were read-only mode, but some of them were left mounted 'rw'

Re. Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

The same here - I use a Sandisk Compact Flash with 8GB on my Thinkpad. The thing runs the whole day and I didnt notice any failure (using NetBSD). With a simple adapter card it formats and works like an ata-disk. Reading is quite fast! A good combination for stationary computers might be to instal

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:15:00 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 > Polytropon articulated: > > > However, there are differences in how you judge documentation > > to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a > > different story. Then talk to a "Windows" person an

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are > your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really > wanted on a friendly list. > > For reference Polytropon has been rather helpful many times on this >

Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:13 AM, UFS User wrote: > I have run a lot of different FreeBSD systems off (fileservers, firewalls, > routers, etc.) off of compact flash cards[1] and have never had a CF part > fail. > > Most of these were read-only mode, but some of them were left mounted 'rw' > for ye

Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

On 12/30/11 22:41, Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:13:24PM -0800, UFS User wrote: I have run a lot of different FreeBSD systems off (fileservers, firewalls, routers, etc.) off of compact flash cards[1] and have never had a CF part fail. Most of these were read-only mode, but som

Re: Same version on binary packages and updated ports

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:53:25 +0100 Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > I really appreciate that you all, Jerry, Polytropon and Chuck, > took your time to answer me. But I think some of you understood > paragraphs like individual-separated statements, that's why you > did not fully understand my qu

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:05:10 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > > > Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are > > your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really > > wanted on a friendly list. > > > > For

Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:13:24 -0800 (PST) UFS User wrote: > Most of these were read-only mode, but some of them were left mounted > 'rw' for years (with no swapping, of course).  The bottom line is, > they never failed, and some were (and are) in the field for over 8 > years now. > So is this jus

Re: Same version on binary packages and updated ports

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:14:35 +, RW wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:53:25 +0100 > Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > > > I really appreciate that you all, Jerry, Polytropon and Chuck, > > took your time to answer me. But I think some of you understood > > paragraphs like individual-separated s

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 12/30/11 23:05, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really wanted on a friendly list. For reference Polytropon has been rather help

D-VFS: coming soon?

I just stumbled on this on my way to another issue. Is there any support on this in FreeBSD yet? I know its only new, but just checking... Its run by the freedesktop developers and is using an MIT license, I believe its supposed to run parallel to Xorg and negate opposing APIs by providing a c

Re: Same version on binary packages and updated ports

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 01:14:35PM +, RW wrote: > If it's for a production server, you might consider building your own > packages on a separate machine. My principal interest is server side. The true is, a year ago, I gave a try to a server (a web server) in a VPS and the only two things

Re: Same version on binary packages and updated ports

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:31:17 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:14:35 +, RW wrote: > > One strategy is to use csup to only update the port tree to release > > tags and so use successive release packages as you update the base > > system. You need to check portaudit for vulnerabi

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > >From "man iwn": > > Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 > IEEE 802.11n driver So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011 > > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500 > > From: David Jackson > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation > > > > I have h

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On 12/30/11 09:59, Jerry wrote: > If FreeBSD really wanted to make a quality product they would hire > competent programmers to create the drivers, etcetera that are seriously > needed. They do. See this for a list of FreeBSD Foundation funded projects that have been completed: http://freebs

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:59:14 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 > Polytropon articulated: > > > >From "man iwn": > > > > Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 > > IEEE 802.11n driver > > So they actually got support for one such device. I ref

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in > the first place, since they already know how it works. A fact seems to be: "Modern" programmers don't bother with documenting, or coding guidelines, or style or other thing

SSL/TLS suddenly stopped working for postfix

My apologies for the cross-posting but I believe it is relevant. I have been running postfix for 8+ months without problems. Recently ( a week or two) I had a user complain that he could no longer send. It appears that postfix is no longer accepting SSL/TLS connections. STARTTLS is work

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote: Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in the first place, since they already know how it works. A fact seems to be: "Modern" programmers don't bother with documenting, or co

re0 + high load CPU, some tests

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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

> > Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before, > supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware > manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform > they get "aliments" for simply wouldn't pay. The > unit sales for _this_ world of IT are simply to > low to justify the work. > > That is t

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:56:59 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > > > Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before, > > supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware > > manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform > > they get "aliments" for simply wouldn't pay. The > > unit sales for _thi

Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:13 AM, UFS User wrote: >But everyone I know (including me) has had an SSD fail, usually with no >explanation. > >So is this just chance, or ... are CF cards really a lot more reliable than >SSD ? The following pages , and references in them , may be useful : http

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

David Jackson wrte: > Robert Bonomi wrote: > > David Jackson wrte: > > > ... > > > > > > However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, ... [ sneck remaineder of ill-informed trolling ] > > Start with "The Design and Implementation of the BSD 4.4.4 Operating > > System" > > by McKusic

Re: SSL/TLS suddenly stopped working for postfix

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Mark wrote: > My apologies for the cross-posting but I believe it is relevant. That's still typically frowned upon, IMHO. >    I have been running postfix for 8+ months without problems.  Recently ( a > week or two) I had a user complain that he could no longer s

how to chdir permanently

if i put in a chdir(VBCPATH) before my speech stuff, how long will the chdir() let me remain in that directory? my directory for my tts gtk application is hidden away in ~/.VBC for now, and the binary has to be in that directory. all of the text files are there. tx for insight

Re: how to chdir permanently

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011, Gary Kline wrote: >if i put in a > > chdir(VBCPATH) before my speech stuff, how long will the chdir() > let me remain in that directory? my directory for my tts gtk > application is hidden away in ~/.VBC for now, and the binary > has to be in that directory. all of th

how to tell if a text1.text file has been written to disk?

i'm using gvim for now. the person with impaired speech types Say: "hi, i'm jon and i'm hear to give you some background on virtue ethics." Or whatever. the gvim editor has been spawned. i must wait until the user is finished typing--ESC]:[Enter].then my espeak | aplay speech code

why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

Hello, Why the scape sequence; newline (\n) does not work in FreeBSD's bash, However, it works both in Linux and Solaris bash? For instance, when i type something basic using the newline scape sequence in FreeBSD bash i get this: $ FRUIT_BASKET="apple oranges pears" $ echo "M

Re: why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

try with the -e flag: $ FRUIT_BASKET="apples oranges pears" $ echo -e 'My fruit basket contains: \n $FRUIT_BASKET' My fruit basket contains: $FRUIT_BASKET >Why the scape sequence; newline (\n) does not work in FreeBSD's bash, However, it works both in Linux and Solaris bash? -- Lyubomi

Re: why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

I used ' singe quotes, so double quotes is: $ FRUIT_BASKET="apples oranges pears" $ echo -e "My fruit basket contains: \n $FRUIT_BASKET" My fruit basket contains: apples oranges pears На 30 декември 2011, 17:04, Любомир Григоров написа: > try with the -e flag: > > $ FRUIT_BASKET="apples orange

Re: why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

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reduce partition size. HELP

Hi, Freebsd-questions. Is there any way to reduce partition size on live system? server is reachable only by ssh. I need to reduce /usr to 300G /dev/ad0s1f1.8T188G1.4T11%/usr -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru __

Re: why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 06:47:45PM -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: > On 12/30/11 17:06, ??? wrote: > > I used ' singe quotes, so double quotes is: > > > > $ FRUIT_BASKET="apples oranges pears" > > $ echo -e "My fruit basket contains: \n $FRUIT_BASKET" > > My fruit basket contains: > > ap

reduce partition size. HELP

=?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= writes: > Is there any way to reduce partition size on live system? No. Basic steps: 0) go to single-user; unmount partition 1) backup affected partition; test backup 2) delete old partition 3) create new/sm

Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2

Good evening, dear FreeBSD enthusiast. I am a newcomer, and have installed FreeBSD 8.2 on a Hewlett-Packard xw4400. After many hours of frustration, I am tearing my hair out. I want my system to include an M-Audio Delta 1010LT sound card, MIDI over USB driver, X-windows, and Gnome. The instr

Re: why newline scape sequence does not work in Freebsd's bash

In the last episode (Dec 31), Erik Trulsson said: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 06:47:45PM -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: > > On 12/30/11 17:06, ??? wrote: > > > I used ' singe quotes, so double quotes is: > > > > > > $ FRUIT_BASKET="apples oranges pears" > > > $ echo -e "My fruit basket co

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I have just rebuilt world and kernel according to the Handbook, installed the new kernel, rebooted, logged in, issued "sudo shutdown now" - the machine entered single user mode, then immediately exited without any intervention by me and continued to boot into multiuser mode. Here is a snippet from

Re: Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2

On 12/31/11 14:45, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Good evening, dear FreeBSD enthusiast. I am a newcomer, and have installed FreeBSD 8.2 on a Hewlett-Packard xw4400. After many hours of frustration, I am tearing my hair out. I want my system to include an M-Audio Delta 1010LT sound c