The problem is that most buyers are more happy when they get "added value"
"for free" like tons of CD's
Even if they never use it.
but they HAVE. You probably observed already that lots of people buy
things to HAVE them. You are right.
Manufacturers do what market required, no matter how d
I may add that I'm using FreeBSD exclusively (!) on my desktop
since version 4.0 without any problems. I just don't describe
the use "desktop" with "runs 'Flash' flawlessly". As Wojciech
still today i don't get explanation what is "desktop usage".
Well my second computer stays on the desk. is it
1: Many (note all) of your posts in response to questions carry what
we might call a snippy, kind of put down attitude toward the
questioner. Even when you are quite correct in information and
criticism, it is not received well if you also say something that
appears to ridicule
And yes - i do log as root by "insecure" rsh and telnet.
OK, I'm now promoting you to "batshit insane". Seriously, there's no excuse
thank you very much. while i don't know exactly what is a difference
between "batshit insane" and "insane" i feel really proud!
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:29:40 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
> but i said "thank you" for such nomination. i feel proud :)
> I'm waiting for "certified professional FreeBSD Troll (TM)" printed and
> laminated certificate! should i give a snail-mail address?
Write a letter to Redmond, they
Is this forum intended to ask "specific" type questions and hope to get
specific and relevant answers? Or, is it a blog to generalize,
theorize, banter, etc. about anything and everything?
It is not enforced, there are no strict rules and no moderation, so while
it's not yet a blog, it will be
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:47:04PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>
> >>Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations:
> >>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539
> >
> >My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an
> >SSH proxy (
Forget the sports - I'm talking hot women here! Your part of the world
seems to be turning them out at a high rate!
Oh wait, this has nothing to do with FBSD
-Original Message-
From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Gar
On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:43:32 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
> I don't agree it's bad idea of removing processing hardware from printer.
> It's good idea as such processing is a blink of eye for today computers.
in general, I would agree, but some BASIC FUNCTIONALITY should
be brought by th
I'm waiting for "certified professional FreeBSD Troll (TM)" printed and
laminated certificate! should i give a snail-mail address?
Write a letter to Redmond, they usually pay good if you
are willing to propagate their opinion. :-)
i want this certificate from man who call me troll, not Micro$o
set SOCKS Host: 127.0.0.1
set Port: 8080
select "SOCKS v5"
Using the proxy, trying to reach freebsd.org just gives me a blank page
and (Untitled) in the Firefox tab.
well - same here. If you like to see just FreeBSD page then
ssh -C -L 8000:69.147.83.33:80 yourhost
and browse http:
Forget the sports - I'm talking hot women here! Your part of the world
seems to be turning them out at a high rate!
Oh wait, this has nothing to do with FBSD
like most post on that list. Even if you remove all mails classified as
"flamewars" there is less than 10% about FreeBSD.
Everyth
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 02:52:05PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote:
> Is this forum intended to ask "specific" type questions and hope to get
> specific and relevant answers? Or, is it a blog to generalize,
> theorize, banter, etc. about anything and everything?
>
> If the later - as it seems to be - I
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:16:13PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > set SOCKS Host: 127.0.0.1
> > set Port: 8080
> > select "SOCKS v5"
> >
> >Using the proxy, trying to reach freebsd.org just gives me a blank page
> >and (Untitled) in the Firefox tab.
> >
> well - same here. If you like to
in general, I would agree, but some BASIC FUNCTIONALITY should
be brought by the printer itself, and if it's only ASCII printing,
so things like
% ls /etc > /dev/ulpt0
what's wrong in ls /etc|lpr
?
Exactly, THAT's the problem. If all manufacturers would agree to
have a certain standa
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:20:51PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >Forget the sports - I'm talking hot women here! Your part of the world
> >seems to be turning them out at a high rate!
> >
> >Oh wait, this has nothing to do with FBSD
>
> like most post on that list. Even if you remove all m
here - all the truly gifted people that can / do actually help get tired
of the B$ and leave - and then we all suffer
It's usually on topic. It gets off-topic more often when W. Puchar chips
in, though.
I am all bad things in the world you can imagine. I am devil himself.
There is no cur
and browse http://localhost:8000
it certainly work ;)
I use the proxy to protect my entire browsing session when on a public
network -- not just for accessing freebsd.org.
vtun could be useful for you, and it's much more straightforward method
for tunneling ANY IP traffic.
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:24:46 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
> >
> > in general, I would agree, but some BASIC FUNCTIONALITY should
> > be brought by the printer itself, and if it's only ASCII printing,
> > so things like
> >
> > % ls /etc > /dev/ulpt0
>
> what's wrong in ls /etc|lpr
>
(which appear to be significantly more strict
than those of the list itself).
How can you compare if there are no defined standard for that list?
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The above command works, for example, with a line printer
(dotmatrix printer) with NO driver, even works with a HP
Laserjet - it uses the built-in text fonts to print the
text.
You exaggerate, configuring /etc/printcap and filter is natural part of
printer installation.
incredibly simple to
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Forget the sports - I'm talking hot women here! Your part of the world
>> seems to be turning them out at a high rate!
>>
>> Oh wait, this has nothing to do with FBSD
>
> like most post on that list. Even if you remove all mails classified
> as "flamewars" there is le
On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:12:43 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> The problem is that most buyers are more happy when they get "added
>>> value" "for free" like tons of CD's
>>
>> Even if they never use it.
>
>but they HAVE. You probably observed already that lots of people buy
>things to HAV
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
I'm pretty happy as it is, except for this thread.
-- Frederique
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:52:05 -0500
"Gary Gatten" wrote:
> Is this forum intended to ask "specific" type questions and hope to get
> specific and relevant answers? Or, is it a blog to generalize,
> theorize, banter, etc. about anything and everything?
[snip]
Stop whining.
This list has been ar
I've been subscribed to this list for quite some time. I've tried to
help where I know,
Me too. And i'm still doing this. Of course when it is occasion for that,
and it's rare as most questions are off-topic.
I've tried interesting stuff that people discuss
here. I've learned more than a few
On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:06:40 +0200
Polytropon wrote:
>On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:43:32 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
> wrote:
>> I don't agree it's bad idea of removing processing hardware from
>> printer. It's good idea as such processing is a blink of eye for
>> today computers.
>
>in general, I wo
Touche... Maybe I need to up the dose on my meds so the B$ doesn't bother me as
much. Ill look into that
- Original Message -
From: Bill Moran
To: Gary Gatten
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu May 28 15:54:53 2009
Subject: Re: What is this forum for?
On Thu, 28 May 2009
On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:33:20 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
> You exaggerate, configuring /etc/printcap and filter is natural part of
> printer installation.
> [...]
> As i already told, manufacturer don't need to say this, instead say the
> same as already says. Just sell THE SAME PRINTE
but they HAVE. You probably observed already that lots of people buy
things to HAVE them. You are right.
That is an incredibly stupid statement.
This is an incredibly stupid behaviour, but unfortunately true.
While a user may buy a product
that contains additional software that they do not
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
Why you think so? I don't mean myself as definer of that rules.
FreeBSD owners should start moderation and define rules. What they do
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:54:53PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:52:05 -0500
> "Gary Gatten" wrote:
>
> > Is this forum intended to ask "specific" type questions and hope to get
> > specific and relevant answers? Or, is it a blog to generalize,
> > theorize, banter, etc. abo
This list has been around of a LNG time. The rules haven't changed
in the 10 years since I've been subscribed, and the list works 99% of the
time.
But there are more and more new "users". It will not work that way another
10 years.
The few days a month where the discussion goes off-top
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:01:39PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >This list has been around of a LNG time. The rules haven't changed
> >in the 10 years since I've been subscribed, and the list works 99% of the
> >time.
>
> But there are more and more new "users". It will not work that
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:00:09PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
> >
> >I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
>
> Why you think so? I don't mean myself as definer of tha
Did you ever bother to consider that if the printer manufacturers
actually formed a consensus on a printer language, some third world
county or the EU would probably sue them.
for setting up open standard? why?
while i probably have similar (or worse) opinion about EU, to which Poland
is now s
On Thu, 28 May 2009 16:43:10 -0400, Jerry wrote:
> You statement, "buy
> things to HAVE them" makes no sense.
I may politely disagree. I know several people who bought a
new high-end PC and stuff for more than 3000 Euro and are
treating it as a worse typewriter. Some stuff has never been
used -
FreeBSD owners should start moderation and define rules. What they do
is their decision.
Mostly, the people who have broad and deep enough knowledge of the
system are busy and don't have time to waste moderating a list.
it's not that much work. The traffic won't be high
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In response to Wojciech Puchar :
> >
> > This list has been around of a LNG time. The rules haven't changed
> > in the 10 years since I've been subscribed, and the list works 99% of the
> > time.
>
> But there are more and more new "users". It will not work that way another
> 10 years.
It's
But there are more and more new "users". It will not work that way another
10 years.
It's funny, that's the same thing that was being said 10 years ago.
and isn't that list ALREADY much worse, mostly 2-3 last years?
In the 70s, they claimed that by the year 2000, there would be 3 billion
pe
WAY OT, but I agree by average most people are not very smart. However,
a great deal of the ice people claim will melt and flood the world is
NOT currently floating in oceans, seas, etc. Al Gore invented this myth
just as he invented the internet... I wish I could spew worthless
drivel and get a
2009/5/28 Gary Gatten :
> Is this forum intended
. . .
> "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient
> and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
> any review, use, disseminat
WAY OT, but I agree by average most people are not very smart. However,
Where the word "average" is important. Anyway within thousands of years
politicians never been so successful in brainwashing as today.
a great deal of the ice people claim will melt and flood the world is
NOT currently
LMAO! Yes, someone else pointed this out to me. I can't control what the
email admins append to my messages. I'll ASK if it can be removed for this
list or use a different email system or something, but it might take a few days
so be patient with me.
-Original Message-
From: ill...@g
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bill Moran wrote:
> From: Bill Moran
> Subject: Re: What is this forum for?
> To: "Wojciech Puchar"
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:12 PM
> In response to Wojciech Puchar :
> > >
> > > This list has been around of a LNG
> time.
Agree floating ice that melts will do nothing (directly) to level of
global ocean waters. PERHAPS indirectly somehow (salt water / fresh
water density, currents, temps, etc.) - but not directly. Problem is
with all the land based ice that will melt or possibly melt. That's
potentially very bad.
On Thu 28 May 2009 at 13:16:28 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
It's usually on topic. It gets off-topic more often when W. Puchar
chips in, though.
Only because some people can't resist the temptation to chide him for
not saying the "right" things in the "right" way.
Really. In every case I've seen w
Only because some people can't resist the temptation to chide him for
not saying the "right" things in the "right" way.
Really. In every case I've seen where one of these flamewars has
erupted, it's because someone took it upon himself to make a personal
attack in response to something Wojciech
On Thu, 28 May 2009 23:38:46 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> i repeated what i read recently about ICE ON ARCTIC SEA melting that
> will flood.
>
> Even knowledge from primary school physics and no single calculation
> is enough to prove that water level will not change at all.
Even for
is enough to prove that water level will not change at all.
Even for you this is a new low.
just another attack? you really can't discuss like a human? I think you
can, but you like behave in "me too" style. others are agains, you must be
too!
about thermal expansion - water will be roughl
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:35:05PM +0200, Iv Ray wrote:
> Does anyone know a place to host FreeBSD in a cloud?
Nope, but i heard amazon and some FreeBSD people are working on this.
AFAIK it's dependent on the used Hypervisor and works with latest
version of Xen (the freebsd wiki says so at leas
On Fri, 29 May 2009 00:53:53 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >> is enough to prove that water level will not change at all.
> >
> > Even for you this is a new low.
>
> just another attack? you really can't discuss like a human? I think
> you can, but you like behave in "me too" style. othe
On May 28, 2009 08:06:51 pm RW wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2009 00:53:53 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > >> is enough to prove that water level will not change at all.
> > >
> > > Even for you this is a new low.
> >
> > just another attack? you really can't discuss like a human? I think
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 23:00:09 +0200 (CEST),
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
>>
>> I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
>
> Why you think so? I don't mean myself as definer of that
When I try to startx my screen goes black for a while and then it
returns to the prompt.
At the screen I see this
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols
> Ignoring extra symbols
Errors from xkbco
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Leslie Jensen wrote:
When I try to startx my screen goes black for a while and then it returns to
the prompt.
At the screen I see this
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols
Peter Ulrich Kruppa skrev:
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Leslie Jensen wrote:
When I try to startx my screen goes black for a while and then it
returns to the prompt.
At the screen I see this
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but ha
Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 16:24:00 +0200, Josef Moellers
wrote:
The install kernel then boots properly and reaches the "Country Selection".
At that point, no keyboard input is accepted. An optical mouse is off,
so I assume the keyboard to be off, too.
Not neccessarily. C
Hello All,
Im still struggling with this one and have tried all I could find
by Googling lists and forums. @ and " keys are fine as are
every other key apart from £ symbol. Can anyone suggest
ways to track this down. At 'Login:' I can actually get £ but
after loging I get a beep? I have tried var
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