Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate

2005-05-07 Thread Luke Dean
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:55:56PM -0700, Luke Dean wrote: I was using 5.4-RC1 until today. Today I attempted to update to 5.4, but I can't get into single-user mode without a panic. I'm just about certain that this is because of the work in progress in tha

Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate

2005-05-07 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 00:05 -0700, Luke Dean wrote: > I've managed to get 5.4-RELEASE installed, but I absolutely cannot get > into single-user mode. I've tried selecting option 4 from the boot menu > and just running a "shutdown now" from multiuser mode. > I think something about my configura

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Danny Pansters writes: > Now you lump me into some self defined "geek community". I didn't say anything about you. > Apparently I don't respect the rule of law now. Isn't that slander? FYI, slander is verbal defamation; written defamation would be libel. If you truly don't respect the rule of

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:49:23AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage > > points on > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > > That true and this would be a fine argument i

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Marc Fonvieille writes: > All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their > archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit > the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to ass

cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a

2005-05-07 Thread Ilia Chipitsine
Dear Sirs, do I need to clean RW disk before writing ? why it says errors to me: design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw burncd: format media type invalid: Unknown error: 0 Cheers, Ilia Chipitsine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://li

Re: cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a

2005-05-07 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:18:40PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > do I need to clean RW disk before writing ? > No. You should be able to "rewrite" on a DVD+RW without any blacking operation. > why it says errors to me: > > design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw > burncd: fo

How-to change permission on SCSI devices?

2005-05-07 Thread regisr
I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of course ;-) OK, I can wrote a shell for this but if ther

Re[2]: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread X3K6A2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Marc Fonvieille writes: >> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their >> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit >> the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. > Then why do

Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network?

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
Hey! > Offlist because this sounds like a general networking thing rather than > anything fbsd-specific. Alright. But just incase though ... > Name resolution of nextgentel.{com,net} looks ok from here, if those IP > addresses are accurate. When you say your nameserver is broken, what > exactly

Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network?

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
Hello Alex (and Jan)! > It could be that type slave files need to go in the subdirectory slave > and type master files need to go in the subdirectory master. named doesn't give me any errors. As I previously stated, my setup has been running flawlessly for months. > Check you /var/log/messages

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:44:16AM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alex de Kruijff writes: > > > Where these persons prosecuted lately? > > No. The first I heard of these problems was probably a good 20 years > ago or so, and they probably predated that. Nevertheless, it is > standard practic

Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day?

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
Hey! > I personally find the old methode a lot easier to read, compared to > the new one. If a change is wanted, why not make such a thing like > this a kernel option? Are you referring to the indenting? Yeah your eyes would have to jump. A sacrifice necessary for order. But the changes were no

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
> If only I was all of them. Point being, you're gonna make it, you'll > survive. Enjoy the publicity, I'm sure you'll have the tabloids > calling to ask who The GREAT FAFA is. Hehe :) I go under many names. > I'm kinda forced to laugh about people suggesting the use of DMCA and > other copyrig

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:45:35AM +0200, X3K6A2 wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille writes: > > >> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their > >> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit > >> the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss

Re: Want a logo competition? Do it properly.

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
> I recall hearing of an announcement to comitters list that they'd get a vote. > - though that's not on http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt Now we are talking :) > > They've certainly earned it. > > Yes. Uhuh! Ain't nothing wrong with that. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Alex de Kruijff writes: > So? As long as your system is protected by a password nobody has a legal > defence. Unfortunately they do. For example, if they guess a user name and password and it works, they can enter your system and claim that they believed it was okay because nothing told them oth

Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices?

2005-05-07 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:39:16AM +0200, regisr wrote: > I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: > In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when > discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) > How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not man

Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices?

2005-05-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:36:11PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:39:16AM +0200, regisr wrote: > > I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: > > In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when > > discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol re

Re: Boot Problem

2005-05-07 Thread Koushik Narayanan
Thanks for helping.I couldn't do anything with the fixit disk.Is there some method or tool using which I can copy all files in the ufs partiton to some other partition using DOS,Windows,or Linux(my kernel won't support ufs.) .Something like ltools which allows me to copy,delete files in ext2 partit

Re: Boot Problem

2005-05-07 Thread Koushik Narayanan
Sorry.My linux kernel does support ufs.Anyway for working with ufs on linux see http://ufs-linux.sourceforge.net/ Sorry for the trouble. On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:14:50 +0530, "Koushik Narayanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Thanks for helping.I couldn't do anything with the fixit disk.Is there > some

Re: Spontaneous reboots

2005-05-07 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Thank you for your replies. I got a hint off-list that this could be ipfilter: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/79988 Looking at my first kernel trap error, I see I also had the (swi1: net) and on -CURRENT, I can't compile kernel with IPFILTER enabled, nor does it compile as a mo

Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices?

2005-05-07 Thread regisr
>> You have to use devfs(8) facility (man devfs). > Anything that exists at boot time can be configured (ownership, > permissions and links) in /etv/devfs.conf. Stuff like USB that can be > hotplugged should be configured in /etc/devfs.rules for ownership and > permissions and in /etc/usbd.conf fo

Issue with Timezone in KDE

2005-05-07 Thread Colin Worthy
I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a while, but eventually is reverting to UTC time. I should be in Central Daylight time (Americas/Chicago). If I try to set the correct timezone fro

Re: longest uptime

2005-05-07 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Stevan Tiefert wrote: if I want to do a uptime-record I have always the possiblity to shut down daemons (when needed) and start them again, without rebooting the system! That is very nice! I had many days and weeks running my nicely freebsd-server. BUT every time I updated the patchlevel (in exa

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Marc Fonvieille writes: > > >>All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their >>archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit >>the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. > > > Then why do so many forms

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Halldor R. Haflidason
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 06:10:00AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > Fafa has already been threatened with his doom. > Some members on this list, it seems, ain't got no heart. It always strikes me as odd when people refer to them self in 3d person. Anyhow, as many have said before me, I think tha

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Bart Silverstrim writes: A) You sent messages to unknown hundreds or thousands of people on the mailing list, all of which could have a cached copy of your messages, and now wonder about privacy? I've explained the differences before; perhaps I n

Re: World version

2005-05-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Christopher Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simple question: how can I tell what version of the system binaries > I'm running? Flame-proofing follows. > > Searches on this mailing list and google tell me 'uname -a' is the > ticket, but that doesn't seem to get what I want. No, it isn't. Tha

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris Hodgins
This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated debates and much more time devo

Re: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question

2005-05-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 05/06/05 16:39, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> i looked at the 20040723 entry again, but there is nothing more to do > >> (in my case) listed there. also 20040723 gives instructions for 5.x, > >> FreeBSD-current, -stable a

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Bart Silverstrim writes: Yeah, cuz, we wouldn't want the archives to be referenced for people who are looking for help on topics, after all. Do you think that subscribers would refuse to grant permission to have their posts archived? If so, does

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Roland Smith writes: On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to the list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. You cannot be sure

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Chris Hodgins wrote: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. Maybe it should be in the mai

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Paul Schmehl writes: Before you start spouting legal advice on a public list, I would suggest that you point to chapter and verse that *specifically* addresses posts made to a public forum that *explicitly* states that such posts will be archi

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Al Johnsonn writes: This advice is more ridiculous than telling him to put aerosol spray back into a can. Where's the flaw in it? That's what the DMCA is for. Betwen this and the claim about "stopping traffic in third party non-US sites becaus

Re: starting mysql server automatically

2005-05-07 Thread Chris Hodgins
On 5/6/05, Paul Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm setting up a server running Freebsd 5.3 I have > mysql running well but I can't seem to get it to start > automatically at boot time. I can only start it as > root with the command: > mysqld_safe --user=mysql & > > (when I do th

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright would hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule in your favor. After all, judges make

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Chris wrote: Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) You had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the U.S. Then, if they deem it so, you then had to pay a fee to have it copyrighted. As I said - this may or may not

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 6, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out of themselves. So I see. But that is not the purpose of copyright. Proven time and time again :-) ___ freeb

Re: nagios config menu does not reappear

2005-05-07 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Noah wrote: FreeBSD-4.11-p3 nagios-2.0b3 I am attmepting to reinstall nagios-2.0b3 from /usr/ports. and cant seem to figure out how to get the configuration option window back again before building. 'make clean' does not work and 'rm -rf /var/db/ports/nagios/*' did not remove a

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 7, 2005, at 7:15 AM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:45:35AM +0200, X3K6A2 wrote: Marc Fonvieille writes: All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the freebsd-blahblah Archive

Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Jon Drews
Hi: I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read either of these books? UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers by Uresh Vahalia http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131019082/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/104-69

Re: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Chris Hodgins
On 5/7/05, Jon Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > > I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn > more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read > either of these books? > > UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers > by Uresh Vahalia > > http://www.am

Re: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Jon Drews
On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/reviews/026-9762435-1924466 > Thank you Chris: The problem is I don't know what semaphores, mutex

Re: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Chris Hodgins
On 5/7/05, Jon Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/reviews/026-9762435-1924466 > > > > Thank you

Re: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jon Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > [McKusick/Neville-Neil,"The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", ISBN 0201702452] > Thank you Chris: > >

firewall_enabled: not found mail message (was IPFW custom rules file not loading)

2005-05-07 Thread Nicholas Henry
Thank you for you help - I misunderstood the firewall_script and firewall_type. Everything works well now. Just one annoying problem. I continually get a mail msg regarding firewall_enabled not found: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 7 12:44:00 2005 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 12:44:00 -0400 (EDT) From:

Re: Issue with Timezone in KDE

2005-05-07 Thread RW
On Saturday 07 May 2005 14:16, Colin Worthy wrote: > I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have > set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a > while, but eventually is reverting to UTC time. I should be in Central > Daylight time (Amer

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris writes: > ... in order for someone to "claim" a violation of copyright, it MUST > be registered with the copyright office (at least here in the States). For civil procedures involving works of U.S. origin, yes. But you don't have to register way in advance, you only have to register before

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris Hodgins writes: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of > story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > > >>... in order for someone to "claim" a violation of copyright, it MUST >>be registered with the copyright office (at least here in the States). > > > For civil procedures involving works of U.S. origin, yes. But you don't > have to register way in a

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Bart Silverstrim writes: > Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). -- Anthony ___ freebsd-qu

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > > >>Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? > > > You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a > message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). > If thats what it comes down

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > > >>Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? > > > You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a > message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). > Here - let's do this. Nobod

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread John Pettitt
Chris wrote: >Nobody can reply to, reproduce, referance, show, etc. this email without >written consent be my. > > The courts, wisely, have declined to say quoting a set amount is ok or define any other bright line test. Since there is no "bright line" test for fair use it comes down to is i

Re[2]: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread Sergey S. Ropchan
> On 5/7/05, Jon Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi: >> >> I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn >> more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read >> either of these books? >> >> UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers >> by Uresh Vahalia I have

Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices?

2005-05-07 Thread Philippe PEGON
regisr a écrit : I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of course ;-) OK, I can wrote a shell for

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris writes: > If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, bloggs, etc > are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh no - where do you > draw the line!!! Some are, some aren't. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mai

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > > >>If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, bloggs, etc >>are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh no - where do you >>draw the line!!! > > > Some are, some aren't. > This whole thing is silly (the isues at hand, meaning

using groff macros

2005-05-07 Thread Steven Friedrich
I'm experimenting with groff macros and I've placed '.B some text' into a file. I don't know what command line options to get groff to spit it out as bold text. I've tried groff -man -T ascii filename | more but it just swallows the text. I've read many man pages but I'm not getting a thread

LEARN available?

2005-05-07 Thread Steven Friedrich
On page http://wolfram.schneider.org/bsd/7thEdManVol2/ there is a paper about LEARN -- Computer-Aided Instruction on UNIX Does anyone know if this program is available? -- i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE There are 10 types of people in this world. Ones that understand binary and then, the others. __

Re: using groff macros

2005-05-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-05-07 16:03, Steven Friedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm experimenting with groff macros and I've placed '.B some text' > into a file. I don't know what command line options to get groff to > spit it out as bold text. > > I've tried groff -man -T ascii filename | more > > but it just

RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Chris writes: > > > > > >>

RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz > Krantz > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > > Hello. > > I hav

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz >>Krantz >>Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:40 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! >>

RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Fafa Hafiz Krantz
Chris, I'm surprised at you! Why did you pass up the opportunity to forge Fafa's name as the sender, to illustrate the point to the clueless better. ;-) Oh dear, I guess I'm gonna get sued for identity theft!! ;-) Ted, forging Fafa. > -Original Message- > From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Juha Saarinen
On 5/8/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > OK, this is arguably Anthony's best-ever troll, and ranks pretty highly when compared to past list trolling. Could someone give the man an award for his achievements and then let's kill this useless mega-thread.

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sat 7 May 05 10:39, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of us with ethics and conscience, registration is > irrelevant. We do not refrain from infringement out of fear of > prosecution, we refrain because infringement is wrong. Where is the infringement here? Have you sp

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Joshua Tinnin writes: > Where is the infringement here? Reproducing a copyrighted work without permission. > Have you spoken to an actual lawyer about this issue? I have. Guess what > he said? I prefer not to guess. Invite him here. In any case, lawyers don't decide what is or isn't infringem

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sat 7 May 05 15:01, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Tinnin writes: > > Where is the infringement here? > > Reproducing a copyrighted work without permission. Then so is every single tech help list with public archives. Or every single email list with public archives. I'm

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Sat 7 May 05 15:01, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>Joshua Tinnin writes: ... Snip > I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most of > what you do here is spread: > > Fear > Uncertainty > Doubt Oh no!!! Fear? Uncertainty? D

Re: Learning UNIX internals

2005-05-07 Thread RW
On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:30, Jon Drews wrote: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/r > >eviews/026-9762435-1924466 > > Thank you C

Re: Issue with Timezone in KDE

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 06:10:45PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Saturday 07 May 2005 14:16, Colin Worthy wrote: > > I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have > > set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a > > while, but eventually is revertin

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Joshua Tinnin writes: > Then so is every single tech help list with public archives. Yes. The fact that certain infringing actions may take place with great frequency does not make them any less infringing. > Some of them have been in existence before the web. I can't figure out > why you keep

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sat 7 May 05 15:35, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Tinnin writes: > > I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most > > of what you do here is spread: > > > > Fear > > Uncertainty > > Doubt > > Much of the prudence that lawful behavior demands is ba

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Chris Hodgins wrote: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of > story. No more bitchy

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:32:37PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alex de Kruijff writes: > > > So? As long as your system is protected by a password nobody has a legal > > defence. > > Unfortunately they do. For example, if they guess a user name and > password and it works, they can enter y

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:16:02AM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On May 6, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > >Roland Smith writes: > > > >>On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to > >>the > >>list archives. The existance to this link implies a public

Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network?

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 05:56:16AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello Alex (and Jan)! > > > It could be that type slave files need to go in the subdirectory slave > > and type master files need to go in the subdirectory master. > > named doesn't give me any errors. > As I previously state

buildworld failing.

2005-05-07 Thread Brian Wolman
Hi all, I can't seem to get a buildworld to complete without errors. I _just_ went from 4.11 to 5.4 using sources. The buildworld then also had errors. The errors are below, as well as a locate for the missing libraries. If you go into the directory for /usr/local/libexec/mail.local and do m

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:38:04AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:49:23AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > > > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage > > > points on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresour

Re: buildworld failing.

2005-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 08:05:34PM -0400, Brian Wolman wrote: > Hi all, > >I can't seem to get a buildworld to complete without errors. I > _just_ went from 4.11 to 5.4 using sources. The buildworld then also had > errors. The errors are below, as well as a locate for the missing > librarie

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 7, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Bart Silverstrim writes: Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). Nope, because that assum

Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day?

2005-05-07 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 07 May 2005 06:05:56 -0500 "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey! > > > I personally find the old methode a lot easier to read, compared > > to the new one. If a change is wanted, why not make such a thing > > like this a kernel option? > > Are you referring to the inde

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 7, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Chris wrote: Oh no!!! Fear? Uncertainty? Doubt? I guess OpenSource isnt the way to go. I guess FreeBSD isnt right for me. Oh no - Look at all this termoil... I guess I should just buy the Microsoft product so I won't violate anything. Surely becasue if I pay for it - e

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Chris
Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On May 7, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Chris wrote: > >> Oh no!!! >> >> Fear? >> Uncertainty? >> Doubt? >> >> I guess OpenSource isnt the way to go. I guess FreeBSD isnt right for me. >> >> Oh no - Look at all this termoil... >> >> I guess I should just buy the Microsoft product

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 7, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Joshua Tinnin writes: Then so is every single tech help list with public archives. Yes. The fact that certain infringing actions may take place with great frequency does not make them any less infringing. Fine. Take them each to court. See ho

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On May 7, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Chris wrote: Aaaarrggghhg Isn't anyhing sacred anymore?! Oh how I long for the Dos-dayz. Whoa is mee ...licensed too. Sorry. You don't own it. :-p ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/m

Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread vizion
Twas said by " Bart Silverstrim" and my ignorance encourages me to join the dialogue and say hey guys can this one be droppd -- my mail box is getting overstuffed with this and it is now way off topic Thanks D David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU Remove nospamme_ from reply

WinTV and bktr

2005-05-07 Thread William Bloom
I've installed a WinTV PVR 150MCE card in my Dell 4550, which has been running FreeBSD 5.3 for many months, and would like to try it with fxtv or gnomemeeting. Since I'm using a custom kernel which was built without bktr support, I've added the following to loader.conf (from a read of the bktr

Re: Want a logo competition? Do it properly.

2005-05-07 Thread Tomas Quintero
I really must say that Fafa is a useless troll. He requests his name not be on any mailing lists, yet acknowledges that it infact isn't even his/her name, and continues to mail the lists. Topposting hurray. On 5/7/05, Fafa Hafiz Krantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I recall hearing of an ann

RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!

2005-05-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex > de Kruijff > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:08 PM > To: Chris Hodgins > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at