I follow the list regularly but haven't posted any messages so far
(that I can recall, at least), in the few years subscribed.
I participate a little more actively in a few other lists, as well;
but honestly I haven't seen a list as polluted as this one. The
remarkable thing is that almost all th
Excuse me, this thread was about..?
I follow the list regularly but haven't posted any messages so far
(that I can recall, at least), in the few years subscribed.
I participate a little more actively in a few other lists, as well;
but honestly I haven't seen a list as polluted as this one. The
rem
finally clear rules! Exactly what i said in the beginning - add two zeroes
to 50-100$ to get good advert.
Hey, Puchar, good flame at all, but after reading all of these emails I
decided and make a donation. Do you ? :) Is someone else ready for this ?
Today i sent some hardware to 2 people
On 01.06.2009, at 18:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
every donation is highly welcome. Please have a look at
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml
As you can see, every donor is mentioned, no matter how
small the amount. They'll display a link for donations
of $5,000 or more, and a
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:48:29PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar typed:
> >every donation is highly welcome. Please have a look at
> > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml
> >
> >As you can see, every donor is mentioned, no matter how
> >small the amount. They'll display a link for donat
every donation is highly welcome. Please have a look at
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml
As you can see, every donor is mentioned, no matter how
small the amount. They'll display a link for donations
of $5,000 or more, and a logo for donations of $10,000
or more.
finally c
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:36:18PM +0200, Kian T. Gould - AOE media GmbH wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD Team,
>
> We are a small Open Source company in Germany, and due to our close
> connection to the Open Source world we sponsor several successful
> Open Source projects that help us in our daily work and
FreeBSD owners should start moderation and define rules. What they do
is their decision.
Mostly, the people who have broad and deep enough knowledge of the
system are busy and don't have time to waste moderating a list.
it's not that much work. The traffic won't be high
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:00:09PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
> >
> >I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
>
> Why you think so? I don't mean myself as definer of tha
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
Why you think so? I don't mean myself as definer of that rules.
FreeBSD owners should start moderation and define rules. What they do
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived.
I wonder what makes you think you have the right to decide for all?
I'm pretty happy as it is, except for this thread.
-- Frederique
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and browse http://localhost:8000
it certainly work ;)
I use the proxy to protect my entire browsing session when on a public
network -- not just for accessing freebsd.org.
vtun could be useful for you, and it's much more straightforward method
for tunneling ANY IP traffic.
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:16:13PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > set SOCKS Host: 127.0.0.1
> > set Port: 8080
> > select "SOCKS v5"
> >
> >Using the proxy, trying to reach freebsd.org just gives me a blank page
> >and (Untitled) in the Firefox tab.
> >
> well - same here. If you like to
set SOCKS Host: 127.0.0.1
set Port: 8080
select "SOCKS v5"
Using the proxy, trying to reach freebsd.org just gives me a blank page
and (Untitled) in the Firefox tab.
well - same here. If you like to see just FreeBSD page then
ssh -C -L 8000:69.147.83.33:80 yourhost
and browse http:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:47:04PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>
> >>Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations:
> >>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539
> >
> >My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an
> >SSH proxy (
1: Many (note all) of your posts in response to questions carry what
we might call a snippy, kind of put down attitude toward the
questioner. Even when you are quite correct in information and
criticism, it is not received well if you also say something that
appears to ridicule
Why did you (attempt to) answer the question in the first place then?
Maybe he's trolling. Look how successful he was at instigating a flame
war. . . .
will not get any success without people like Chris Rees and few others.
Actually - starting it was not my plan at all.
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OMFG Can someone PLEASE just shoot me now!!! How much do I have to
pay to make this thread and all the worthless babble therein go away forever?
no way, but please think about financing, or even better gathering few
people and convincing core team for setting up official MODERATED li
Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539
My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an
SSH proxy (even though both the local machine and the proxy machine are
FreeBSD systems, ironic
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:12:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone,
> >unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually
> >just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a
>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:15 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote:
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> >>
>> > exactly d
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote:
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> >>
>> > exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it
>> > because of forum - still read and posts here.
>>
>> None of your concern:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:12:11PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:38:46PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Of course - ban it!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a p
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>
> > exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it
> > because of forum - still read and posts here.
>
> None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about.
> Whether som
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:44:29PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
> 2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
> >>
> >> It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT
> >> an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes
> >> an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation.
> >>
> >
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:00:56PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
> > > 3. Drafts for a possible redesign of your project's website
> > >
> > current webpage is excellent - no need to :) Most important - it works in
> > every browser.
>
> Actually it's known to ren
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:12:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone,
> >unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually
> >just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:36:10 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>> Dunno, I saw too many messages in the thread to remember if there
>> *was* anything wrong. I'm not saying that there was something wrong
>> with what
>
> so look back, as there wasn't.
>
> I think you just followed trend to cri
Dunno, I saw too many messages in the thread to remember if there *was*
anything wrong. I'm not saying that there was something wrong with what
so look back, as there wasn't.
I think you just followed trend to criticize my "just because", while you
didn't start it.
_
On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:12:16 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>> FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of
>> anyone, unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense.
>> We usually just point the users gently towards an appropriate
>> resource: a webpage, a
FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone,
unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually
just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a
mailing list, or a team of more knowledgeable folks, etc.
Boris did the righ
could only do this, or stop being moderator.
If rules would allow any discussion if moderator should or should not delete
post, then rules are wrong and must be fixed.
moderator can not have any power to resolve personal things through it.
I read what you posted "carefully." I'm asking you to
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:00:23 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
- post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD
fundation and contributors.
>>>
>>> But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up.
>>
>> i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you
On Wed, 27 May 2009 12:29:24 -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
> What I can gather from this thread is that he, as a developer, might
> possibly have the right to speak on behalf of FreeBSD in regards to a
> sponsorship offer. On the other hand, you, who are neither a
> developer nor a core team membe
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>> No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If
>
> for my needs it's actually true. Only FreeBSD meets my requirements.
ok . . .
>
>> Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread,
>> appreciate
No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If
for my needs it's actually true. Only FreeBSD meets my requirements.
Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread,
appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to
fail (for whatever
therefore, it seems that keeping the list to fbsd issues is a valid
point.
Which WILL end up with moderated list within some time. Current quality
will not improve, only will get worse sooner or later.
The moderated list should be started quickly for simple reason:
at the beginning (almost)
to miss those.
Everyone is right, Everyone is wrong, kiss and make up - and then PLEASE
STFU! And that's said with ALL due respect and not directed toward any
one person!
All this $hit DID make me realize I need to get my company to pony up
some $$$ - FreeBSD has been beneficial to u, so thanks
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:15:58 -0500
Neal Hogan wrote:
> > of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated so many
> > times this or similar way at me that it matured!
>
> That's actually pretty funny! Nice!
>
yes that is very well done!
> As far as having the right to post your opinion
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, that certainly doesn't follow.
>>
>> Actually, that one does.
>
> Don't bother, he just answered that after reading "wojciech puchar" in mail
> header, so he had to be against.
No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functio
As far as having the right to post your opinion . . sure . . . but
that does not mean that your opinions are just as good as others.
Being of the opinion that the earth is flat is just not a very good
opinion . . . no?
exactly. but as you may compare some of my opinions to "flat earth" as i
m
Well, that certainly doesn't follow.
Actually, that one does.
Don't bother, he just answered that after reading "wojciech puchar" in
mail header, so he had to be against.
If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc
then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't m
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
- post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD
fundation and contributors.
>>>
>>> But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up.
>>>
>> i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it
reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech
Puchar
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:06 PM
To: utis...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
>> Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be
>>
>> - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD =
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:38:46PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Of course - ban it!
> >>
> >>
> >> Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why
> >> I
> >> no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everythin
Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be
- post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation
and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example
that:
But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up.
I'm very sorry f
- post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD
fundation and contributors.
But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up.
i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it
in a different way.
of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:20:15 +0100
Chris Rees wrote:
> > - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD
> > fundation and contributors.
>
> But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up.
>
i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it
in a differe
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>> thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many
>> threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest
>> little thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS.
>
> no matter what you think and what your opinion is, you wi
thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many
threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest little
thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS.
no matter what you think and what your opinion is, you will always find
part of forum users to
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:30:01 +0200
Chris Knipe wrote:
> If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you
> have a mature OS...
>
i think it is a good idea for people to act maturely on forums
otherwise we stop communicating and start screammunicating.
> Why am I still here
On 27/05/09 12:40 -0700, prad wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:34:04 +0200
"Chris Knipe" wrote:
Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I
no longer use FreeBSD.
i really don't understand this.
it would make sense for you to ignore the forum, but why take it out on
the os?
Wojciech Puchar writes:
1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD
(restore a quote Wojciech deletted intentionally)
>>> add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
>>> interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
>>
>> No, any financial co
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it
>>> because of forum - still read and posts here.
>>>
>>
>> None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about.
>> Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is
>
On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:34:04 +0200
"Chris Knipe" wrote:
> Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I
> no longer use FreeBSD.
>
i really don't understand this.
it would make sense for you to ignore the forum, but why take it out on
the os?
--
In friendship,
prad
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>>> exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it
>>> because of forum - still read and posts here.
>>>
>>
>> None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about.
>> Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not,
exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it
because of forum - still read and posts here.
None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about.
Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is
irrelevant to most (and probably to all) dis
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists
turns
>>>
>>> If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;)
>>>
>>> This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all!
>>
>> Well, that certainly doesn't follow.
no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns
If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;)
This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all!
Well, that certainly doesn't follow.
exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course - ban it!
>>
>>
>> Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why
>> I
>> no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns
>
> If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORU
Of course - ban it!
Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I
no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns
If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;)
This means that OS functionality is not important for
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
Sent: 27 May 2009 05:57 PM
To: Zbigniew Szalbot
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; utis...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
>>
>>> as usually - i speak for m
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:44:28PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Do you know who Boris is?
>
> checked a FreeBSD site - he is a listed as a developer.
>
> but how does it compare to what i said about logo of main webpage
> and "improving" website.
What I can gather from this thread is that he,
checked a FreeBSD site - he is a listed as a developer.
but how does it compare to what i said about logo of main webpage and
"improving" website.
Beg pardon, my mistake, thought he was the guy from the Foundation.
Still, he's a developer. Are you?
no i'm not. but you don't answer my questio
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
No, any financial contributions are welcome.
>>>
>>> they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference.
>>
>>
>> Do you know who Boris is?
>
> checked a FreeBSD site - he is a listed as a developer.
>
> but how does it compare to what i said abou
sd.org
To: Wojciech Puchar
Cc: Boris Samorodov ; Kian T. Gould - AOE media GmbH
; questi...@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed May 27 10:59:38 2009
Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>>> add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
>>> interes
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>>
>> It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT
>> an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes
>> an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation.
>>
>> You were just plain wrong in doing so, and you should either quietly
>>
No, any financial contributions are welcome.
they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference.
Do you know who Boris is?
checked a FreeBSD site - he is a listed as a developer.
but how does it compare to what i said about logo of main webpage and
"improving" website.
stop replying defending your actions, or even perhaps admit you were
wrong and apologise.
just another funny post - it's not an opinion, it's a fact BECAUSE YOU
DECIDED SO.
How many "opinions" do you need before you start taking this seriously?
rather - from whom, now how. quality, not quant
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote:
>>
>> It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT
>> an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes
>> an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation.
>>
>> You were just plain wrong in doing so, and
It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT
an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes
an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation.
You were just plain wrong in doing so, and you should either quietly
stop replying defending your actions, or even
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>>> add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
>>> interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
>>
>> No, any financial contributions are welcome.
>
> they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference.
Do you
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>>
>> One of your problems is that you type faster than you think. But the thing
>> that really pisses me - YOU MAKE MONEY out of FreeBSD OS by offering
>> hosting but every time someone on this lists says "hello" and wants to
>> either learn or help with the development
One of your problems is that you type faster than you think. But the thing
that really pisses me - YOU MAKE MONEY out of FreeBSD OS by offering
hosting but every time someone on this lists says "hello" and wants to
either learn or help with the development, you scare them off as if you
owned this
>> Grrr... there are times when I think that freedom of speech is not such
>> a
>> good thing after all...
>
> Of course - ban it!
One of your problems is that you type faster than you think. But the thing
that really pisses me - YOU MAKE MONEY out of FreeBSD OS by offering
hosting but every time
As humorous and entertaining as this witty banter is, can we k!ll it now
- at least from the global list? Please feel free to banter amongst
yourselves privately and cc me for my amusement!
"This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient
and may contain informatio
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > 3. Drafts for a possible redesign of your project's website
> >
> current webpage is excellent - no need to :) Most important - it works in
> every browser.
Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/que
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Wojciech Puchar
wrote something useless, again...:
>>
>> Did you even add anything constructive, or did you just potentially
>> scare off a sponsor?
>
> never. All i write is always unconstructive, rude, stupid and wrong in your
> opinion.
>
Not just his opinion.
add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
No, any financial contributions are welcome.
they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference.
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as usually - i speak for myself. and will keep it that way.
Grrr... there are times when I think that freedom of speech is not such a
good thing after all...
Of course - ban it!
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Did you even add anything constructive, or did you just potentially
scare off a sponsor?
never. All i write is always unconstructive, rude, stupid and wrong in
your opinion.
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On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:45:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > 1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD
> add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
> interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
No, any financial contributions are welco
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>> Kian: This guy doesn't speak for the majority, so please ignore him.
>
> as usually - i speak for myself. and will keep it that way.
>
But the email was not addressed to you, nor was it asking your
opinion. Or do you consider yourself a member of the FreeBSD Team?
D
Hi there,
> as usually - i speak for myself. and will keep it that way.
Grrr... there are times when I think that freedom of speech is not such a
good thing after all...
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as usually - i speak for myself. and will keep it that way.
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2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar :
>> 1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD
>
> add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
> interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
>
> if they would mention companies for 50$ then www.freebsd.org would be
> unre
1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD
add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be
interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so.
if they would mention companies for 50$ then www.freebsd.org would be
unreadable completely as there will be 5
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