On 18 Jan 2006, at 17:17, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am
adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As
soon as I
get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switc
>-Original Message-
>From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:59 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
>I disagree with that. The guidelines fo
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux
--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
W
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>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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>
>
>> "is freebsd better than linux"
> "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly legitimate.
"Is FreeBSD more suitible as a desktop system with
a 200mHz pentium-pro and a 4 gigabyte hard-drive
than windows 3.11 on dos 6.22 on vmware on top
of Solaris 10?" is perfectly legitimate.
"Is FreeBSD better than Slackware?"
>-Original Message-
>From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:36 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
>
>
>More rambling, useless points from Ted. Whethe
>-Original Message-
>From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
>--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Danial Thom
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM
> >To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:19:38 -0800
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What do you say to the people who want to do some research before
> putting the time into installing it?
>
> Ted
http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.freebsddiary.org/topics.php
http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/
http:/
> What do you say to the people who want to do some research before
> putting the time into installing it?
>
> Ted
http://www.freesbie.org/
;-)
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t; >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham Bentley
> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:28 AM
> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
> >
> >
> >Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions
> >list
ons@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
>Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions
>list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's)
>What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z?
>
>Thinking about it now, if I was
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM
>To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
>
>> > Microsoft pays hardwar
Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions
list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's)
What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z?
Thinking about it now, if I was asking the same question and
someone said "Why not try out FreeBSD and make yo
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:03:15PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote:
> My hardware is fully supported by FreeBSD and in fact some of it was
> supported earlier on FreeBSD than on Linux.
> For example, the Brooktree bktr(4) Video-Capture driver existed first on
> FreeBSD, also high-speed cd-bur
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:15 +
Tim Greening-Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What is the essential difference
> > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
>
> I have been following this thread (and similar ones over t
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:00:59 +
Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is
> teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the
> last 24 hours.
> If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.]
>
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora
>> > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences?
>> > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linu
On 18/01/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 18/01/06, Danial Thom
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(actually, no he didn't. your mail clients quoting is insane)
(some guy:)
> > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to make drivers f
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the essential difference
> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
I have been following this thread (and similar ones over the past few
weeks) and would like to offer my perspective on the "FreeBSD versus
Linux" discus
--- Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18/01/06, Danial Thom
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to
> > > > make drivers for their OS,
> > >
> > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to
> with
> > > their market share.
>
> > Ok, what do you
On 18/01/06, Martin Tournoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps.
> > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes.
> There's a very big dump of unmaintained software, whenever I want to
> play an old "classic" game like c&c, x-com or even s
Dick Davies => Sorry for sending you this mail twice, accidently
pressed enter...(shoudn't eat and write e-mails at the same time...)
> So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps.
> And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes.
There's a very big dump of unmaintained software,
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matias
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:55 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
&
On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am
> > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I
> > get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can
> > disconnect without
On 18/01/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to
> > > make drivers for their OS,
> >
> > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with
> > their market share.
> Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something?
> MS doesn't have to "pay" vendo
> > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to
> > make drivers for their OS,
>
> I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with
> their market share.
Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something?
For pete's sake, how can so many people be so
patently clueless and still be able to find food
a
On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Matias wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the essential difference
between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
Where can I find any list of differences?
What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
Greetings
Greg
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On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora
> > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences?
> > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
>
> Give a look at gentoo ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the essential difference
> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
> Where can I find any list of differences?
> What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
> Greetings
> Greg
>
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[Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is
teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the last
24 hours.
If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.]
Can we please stop comparing *NIX to windows. They're nothing
like each other. Like
> Windows almost runs everything
Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years back
on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work.
> Unix has not matured yet to compete with Microsoft.
Yeah, let's just forget that UNIX had stuff like network support
before windows even exist
*Some* reasonable and balanced points for a questions list :)
My laptop distro www.zenwalk.org
My rack server www.trustix.org
My webserver www.freebsd.org (of course:)
For very boring locked in accounts work W2K
Using the appropraite tool for the job seems to be the best
advice I have had on this
On Jan 17, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Tamouh H. wrote:
Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as
well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Fi
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:26 -0500
"Tamouh H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
> > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
> > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
> >
> > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as
>
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:32:30 +0200
Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ?
> [high definition audio :p]
> changing the topic ;)
> missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont
> even know if they still w
On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Dick Davies wrote:
On 17/01/06, David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the
tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver.
Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and
On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Tamouh H. wrote:
Still Microsoft has the upper hand! How about this for an idea,
sponsored
drivers ? Why not allow such service that if an organization or
individual
wishes to have a driver written they can sponsor a FreeBSD
developer to do
it?
How is that
>That or the user(s). Microsoft doesn't write any sound card drivers, they
make
>>>manufacturers do it then pay and beg to be included on the master
distribution >CD/DVD.
>For a device to work in FreeBSD someone who wants it bad enough to do the
work has >to have the skills and want it bad enough
David Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote:
Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Wind
Tamouh H. wrote:
Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as
well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card
in my G5, and they wor
Andrew L. Gould wrote:
A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote:
I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can
breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I
don't buy it.
After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and
1998 -- anyone rememb
On 17/01/06, David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the
> tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver.
> Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa.
Danger Will Robinson! The GPL ca
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote:
>
>
> > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
> > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
> > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
>
> Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows.
>
> Getti
> Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof
> inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by
> FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $
>
> Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as
> well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card
> in my G5, and they work, b
Using sound on a Unix box will not give you the same support for that then
on a windows box if the sound card problem is with all major os'es then i
would think your sound card is ready to be changed out i have a audigy Z2
in my unix box and i have had no errors so fare freebsd doesnt support
high
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST)
Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am
> > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon
> > as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc s
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:04 -0700
"Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple
> > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact
> > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't
>
The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am
adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I
get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can
disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add
a mouse or keyboa
A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote:
I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can
breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I
don't buy it.
After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and
1998 -- anyone remember ISA cards, serial mice
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:02:31 -0500
Mike Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:32:30PM +0200, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote:
> > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ?
> > [high definition audio :p]
> > changing the topic ;)
> > missed listening to
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote:
any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ?
[high definition audio :p]
changing the topic ;)
missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont
even know
if they still work :p]
Just get a differen
On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote:
No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple
distributions that use the same kernel. The fact
that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't
make it any more complete.
Actually it is spot on. Linux is a kernel. The various
distributions add a
Have similar performance hah
> Linux is just kernel only.
>
> FreeBSD is complete operating system.
>
> FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much
> already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info.
> ___
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:32:30PM +0200, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote:
> any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ?
> [high definition audio :p]
> changing the topic ;)
> missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know
> if they still work :p]
You
any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ?
[high definition audio :p]
changing the topic ;)
missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know
if they still work :p]
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Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote:
hi,
kernel is one of the differences ;)
freebsd uses generic kernel.
and one other important difference is freebsd doest not support my intel
high definition audio card :(
so no sound for years :'( [other distros debian, suse ... support my card.]
instead of yum or ap
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:38:24AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
>
> No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple
> distributions that use the same kernel. The fact
> that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't
> make it any more complete.
>
"Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that alloc
On 1/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the essential difference
> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
> Where can I find any list of differences?
> What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
Just google for it, there are plenty of comparisons.
Mike
--- Mike Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800,
> Danial Thom wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Linux is just kernel only.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD is complete operating system.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD and Li
At the risk of getting flamed...someone somewhere in the Usenet universe
summed linux as "the most self-incompatible OS." It's one of the
unfortunate side-effects of the myriad of different distributions. And
a lot of work must be done to compile apps from source in linux if you
can't find a
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
>
>
> --- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Linux is just kernel only.
> >
> > FreeBSD is complete operating system.
> >
> > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar
> > performance. There are much
> > already discu
i use freebsd at home too :) [as the only o.s. for my pc]
that was 'my opinion'. [dont have sound :'( but still use it :p ]
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On Tuesday 17 January 2006 18:42, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote:
> but freebsd mostly
> used as a server. not much suitable for PC usage.
I really dislike this canard, I have run FreeBSD on a laptop since 3.4
and support for the hardware has generally been adequate, I guess
it depends what you want
--- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Linux is just kernel only.
>
> FreeBSD is complete operating system.
>
> FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar
> performance. There are much
> already discussed about it, a google search
> will give you more info.
Nothing personal, but thats
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the essential difference
> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for
> instance)?
> Where can I find any list of differences?
> What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs
> Linux?
> Greetings
> Greg
Whats the difference between a wheelbarrow and a
dumptruck?
Linux is just kernel only.
FreeBSD is complete operating system.
FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much
already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info.
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hi,
kernel is one of the differences ;)
freebsd uses generic kernel.
and one other important difference is freebsd doest not support my intel
high definition audio card :(
so no sound for years :'( [other distros debian, suse ... support my card.]
instead of yum or apt-get, you have ports in freebs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the essential difference
> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
> Where can I find any list of differences?
> What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
Fabian
--
http://ww
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the essential difference
between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)?
Where can I find any list of differences?
What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux?
Greetings
Greg
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ssage -
From: "Bart Silverstrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to
On Apr 21, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart
Silverstrim
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
I'm afraid after pl
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart
> Silverstrim
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
>
>
> I'm afraid af
On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of
mine adviced
FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I
don't like is
that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
Yeah,
koen de wijs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want to try out Linux. I heard it is more user friendly and the basic
> stuff will be set up during installation.
The definition of "user friendly" is hardly set in stone. I for one do
not equate Microsoft style demoability with user frienliness, at
At 09:23 PM 4/20/2005, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
Nothing spectacular, to be sure. I simply noticed that I
have done a lot of things to set up a server or whatever,
and they can easily be scripted. I'm certainly no shell
scripting expert (A month ago I would have tried this
in PHP, but there's a little
Kevin Kinsey writes:
> And I see no reason why it couldn't be expanded
> to do a lot of other stuff as well. Scripting is just
> "doing what you'd do yourself" in code, so you can
> do something else, after all...
Keep in mind that flexibility and automation are always mutually
exclusive.
--
A
W. D. wrote:
At 15:20 4/20/2005, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
After using sysinstall for the base system, with a little reading up on
shell scripting, you can set up your own "install wizard" and run it
from a floppy, cross a reboot and take a day off while the
server/desktop/whatever box sets i
Bart Silverstrim writes:
> I'm afraid after playing with both FreeBSD and some different distros
> of Linux, that "easy way" isn't necessarily Linux either.
Some of them are apparently much closer to the plug-and-play environment
of Windows than are any versions of UNIX. Logically anyone who wan
koen de wijs writes:
> I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
> FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
> that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
That is the nature of UNIX.
> I want to try out Linux. I heard
At 15:20 4/20/2005, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
>After using sysinstall for the base system, with a little reading up on
>shell scripting, you can set up your own "install wizard" and run it
>from a floppy, cross a reboot and take a day off while the
>server/desktop/whatever box sets itself up
>
>I'm
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 06:43:14PM +0200, koen de wijs wrote:
> I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
> FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
> that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
> I want to try out Linu
On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of
mine adviced
FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I
don't like is
that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
Yeah,
Ash wrote:
koen de wijs wrote:
Could anyone give me a good site that describes the differences
between FreeBSD and Linux?
This is a good place to start:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
That's an excellent article, and I wonder if the Powers That Be couldn't
simpl
> koen de wijs wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> >
> > I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of
> mine adviced
> > FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I
> don't like is
> > that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
Yeah, this is unix my f
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
I want to try out Linux. I heard it is more user friendly a
At 11:43 4/20/2005, koen de wijs wrote:
>Hello folks,
>
>
>I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
>FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
>that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
>I want to try out Linux. I hea
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
I want to try out Linux. I heard it is more user friendly a
koen de wijs wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm new to unix. This year I tried FreeBSD. Some friend of mine adviced
FreeBSD. I think it works great. Only one thing that I don't like is
that you will need to know a lot to setup a lot of basic stuff.
I want to try out Linux. I heard it is more user friendly a
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 09:53:12AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
>
> > You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this
> > works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations
> > changes or special daemons or anythi
On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Bart Silverstrim writes:
Um, no. OS/2 had the Presentation Manager layer on it for the GUI.
Presentation Manager was an afterthought, once they realized how far
they had gone astray.
anthony: "But IBM wanted a CLI, like DOS or
OS/2, whereas Mi
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:45:52AM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
>
> Read ShowStopper!. It's an excellent history of the background of NT
> (and Cutler). You can also read the Why I Hate Microsoft rant posted
> at http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html .
> I find i
Bart Silverstrim writes:
> Um, no. OS/2 had the Presentation Manager layer on it for the GUI.
Presentation Manager was an afterthought, once they realized how far
they had gone astray.
> True to a point. Just because you have a GUI as the primary interface
> it doesn't mean that the OS *must*
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Bart Silverstrim writes:
"They" were an outside team that worked on VMS. "They" started NT
before Windows became a marketing drone's dream. The Windows
subsystem
became the default subsystem after Windows 3.x took off. Originally
it
wasn't
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Bart Silverstrim writes:
"It's not part of the OS!"
Fine. Will MS let me buy just the kernel?
No, but you don't have to buy or install most of the drivers. If you
run with only required default drivers, the system will be stable.
Let's preten
On Feb 15, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
That surely explains their sales of XServes and RAID servers.
They're off the radar for servers. The only people who install Apple
servers are people who are already in love with Apple desktops.
They're
kind of the inverse of people who fal
Bart Silverstrim writes:
> "They" were an outside team that worked on VMS. "They" started NT
> before Windows became a marketing drone's dream. The Windows subsystem
> became the default subsystem after Windows 3.x took off. Originally it
> wasn't going to have a GUI.
Oh well ... it's a bit la
Bart Silverstrim writes:
> "It's not part of the OS!"
>
> Fine. Will MS let me buy just the kernel?
No, but you don't have to buy or install most of the drivers. If you
run with only required default drivers, the system will be stable.
> Extend it a little more, even MS argued that Internet Ex
In a message dated 2/12/2005 2:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, darren kirby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>quoth the David Kelly:
>
>> Look closely at the Linux community and you'll find its mostly
>> ex-Windows users focused on what Microsoft is doing. The desire is to
>> one-up Microsoft at Micro
In a message dated 2/12/2005 2:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, darren kirby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>quoth the David Kelly:
>
>> Look closely at the Linux community and you'll find its mostly
>> ex-Windows users focused on what Microsoft is doing. The desire is to
>> one-up Microsoft at Micro
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