In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Swiger (cs) writes:
cs> You are correct that one needs to measure the voltage and use the RMS
cs> value, or DC series equivalent if you like that phrase, in order to
cs> figure out the power consumption accurately, but an {ammeter,
cs> amp-meter, DMM} which
I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but one way to significantly
reduce power consumption is to downclock the processor. Yes, that
reduces performance, but chances are you won't even notice it unless
you're running the server under a heavy load. You said your network
consists of two machines
Mike Jeays writes:
> A typical workstation might use 50 watts when idle. If power is
> 5 cents per KW=hour, it will cost you about $2 a month. 50 watts
> used to heat your room won't make a lot of difference - just a
> bit less than a 60 watt light bulb...
You might be surprised. W
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 16:06, Bill Moran wrote:
> Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
> > >> Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess
> > >> those use
> > >> less power, right?
> > >
> > > I remember having this con
> > Perhaps something like Soekris boards could be useful? Has
> > someone used them to build a power-saving server?
>
> Sure. I've got a Soekris net4801 sitting right next to me which is
> running some custom network monitoring/IDS/IPS software, and the Via
> EPIA mini-ITX form factor is anoth
On 8 Jun 2004 at 13:45, Jason Taylor wrote:
> Bill Moran wrote:
>
> > Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent
> >>PSU with enough room for some decent 80mm or larger low noise fans
> >>rather than opening up the side
Kevin Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jason Taylor wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'll chime in here. Here's what everything I ever learned about
> > heat transfer and fluid flow tells me:
> >
> > Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to move
> > as much flu
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jason Taylor wrote:
> Ok, I'll chime in here. Here's what everything I ever learned about
> heat transfer and fluid flow tells me:
>
> Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to move
> as much fluid (air is a fluid for the purpose of this discussion) a
Am Dienstag, 8. Juni 2004 16:44 schrieb Peter Ulrich Kruppa:
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
> > client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
> > power?
> >
> > Is it true that
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 01:45 pm, Jason Taylor wrote:
> Bill Moran wrote:
> > Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Hi,
>
> Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to
> move as much fluid (air is a fluid for the purpose of this
> discussion) as fast as possible across w
On Jun 8, 2004, at 5:06 PM, Bernt. H wrote:
No need to guess, use an amp-meter. :-)
Well If it measure trueRMS then you could use it, otherwise no.
You are correct that one needs to measure the voltage and use the RMS
value, or DC series equivalent if you like that phrase, in order to
figure out
On Jun 8, 2004, at 4:06 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No need to guess, use an amp-meter. :-)
What a crazy idea.
I seem to remember plugging monitors into a UPS in an attempt to use
the cheesy
"load meter" lights to tell which was drawing more juice, when that
d
Charles Swiger wrote:
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess
those use
less power, right?
I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and
our
consensus was that flat screens used just as much power as
Bill Moran wrote:
Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
What is so bad with the floor?
Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the
first serious cloud break? ;-)
BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent
PSU with enough room for some
On Jun 8, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Cordula's Web wrote:
AMD processors now have fairly good thermal behavior when they are
idle, although it obviously helps if one can enable APCI and power
management capabilities to either throttle down the CPU speed or even
go into sleep mode.
What about other architect
Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > What is so bad with the floor?
>
> Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the
> first serious cloud break? ;-)
>
> BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent
> PSU with enough room for s
Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
> >> Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess
> >> those use
> >> less power, right?
> >
> > I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and
> > our
> > conse
Hi,
What is so bad with the floor?
Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the
first serious cloud break? ;-)
BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent
PSU with enough room for some decent 80mm or larger low noise fans
rather than opening
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 03:05:14PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
: Yes; spills, flying objects, whatever. Most importantly, it's not on
: the floor, and securely on my desk. I deal w/ the noise by keeping the
What is so bad with the floor?
: > That reminds me: is a CD/RW a feasible data backup device?
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:51:51PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:42:16PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
> : Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall,
>
> Why against the wall? So nothing damages it?
Yes; spills, flying objects, whatever. Most i
> > less power, right? Also, a 1.8GHz Athlon won't use any more power than
> > necessary during idle time, right?
>
> AMD processors now have fairly good thermal behavior when they are
> idle, although it obviously helps if one can enable APCI and power
> management capabilities to either throt
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:42:16PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
: Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall,
Why against the wall? So nothing damages it?
: with some space between it and the wall. Especially during the summer.
My setup has a fan in the back, and also one on
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess
those use
less power, right?
I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and
our
consensus was that flat screens used just as much power as tube
monitors. Don't
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
> client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
> power?
>
> Is it true that the heat buildup in a home system (rather than
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess
those use
less power, right? Also, a 1.8GHz Athlon won't use any more power than
necessary during idle time, right?
Yes, a flat screen typically uses about 50W; a big CRT might
Jonathon McKitrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Richard Caley wrote:
> : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes:
> :
> : jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
> : jm> client laptop. Will run
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Richard Caley wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes:
:
: jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
: jm> client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
: jm> p
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes:
jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
jm> client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
jm> power?
Turn the monitor off, especially if it is getting old. I have a 19
Well... X is not started automatically (a.k.a. no gdm/kdm)... sometimes
I'd like to "play" with some X stuff...
I know there are other solution, like build on a fast machine and
install onto the slow one. I didn't bother because 1) the server is
still working while the upgrade is taking it's o
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Chiang Seng Chang wrote:
I also have an always-on "headless" server running for like 3 years now
without any problem.
I use it for: apache, samba, vpn, postfix (the "usual" server apps).
I think the "key" is to use the minimal (translate: cooler, less power
hungry) components
I also have an always-on "headless" server running for like 3 years now
without any problem.
I use it for: apache, samba, vpn, postfix (the "usual" server apps).
I think the "key" is to use the minimal (translate: cooler, less power
hungry) components.
Mine is P2-400 with 5400 rpm HDDs.
A UPS w
: So *my* summary for your private server would be:
: - Leaving it on all day will not kill your harddisks, in the
: contrary: even cheap ones will live longer.
: - AMD processors tend to run hot, so if you have one, you should
: look for a good fan.
The guy who built mine installed 2 fans, pl
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
power?
Is it true that the heat buildup in a home system (rather than a heavily
fanned commercial system)
On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:21 AM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a
thin
client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot
of
power?
Not necessarily. If you want to measure it, make sure you have a
decent UPS (which I'd
I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
power?
Is it true that the heat buildup in a home system (rather than a heavily
fanned commercial system) will kill the drives faster and this is a g
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