Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, krad wrote: > A few people have mentioned labelling the drives. Its a good thing to do, > but take it a step further. Before you put the drives in the system, > physically label them with something identifiable (colored sticker, number > whatever). Then when you cr

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 19 November 2010 10:25, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 19/11/2010 10:00, krad wrote: > > If you already have a 3ware card and you are familiar with them, why not > let > > it do the raid and just plonk zfs on top of the lun presented to the > system? > > Will make booting off pure zfs much easier.

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Peter
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter wrote: > >> I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS >> and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to >> be >> the same if moving/replacing/card fails. >> >> With 'ZFS: do not give it all your HDD' >>

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/11/2010 10:00, krad wrote: > If you already have a 3ware card and you are familiar with them, why not let > it do the raid and just plonk zfs on top of the lun presented to the system? > Will make booting off pure zfs much easier. There's a lot of duplication of function there -- both ZFS an

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:44:12 + Paul Wootton wrote: > Here is a copy from smartctl > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 092 092 000Old_age > Always - 5958 > 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 001 001 000Old_age > Always - 885346 > > The drive

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 19 November 2010 09:48, Andy Wodfer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter wrote: > > > I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS > > and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to be > > the same if moving/replacing/card fails.

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 18 November 2010 13:51, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed > videofiles > > (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital > 2TB > > or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Andy Wodfer
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter wrote: > I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS > and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to be > the same if moving/replacing/card fails. > > With 'ZFS: do not give it all your HDD' > [ http://ww

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Peter
> Thanks a lot to all who responded to my post. > > I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x > 2TB > green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up > as > a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. > > Btw. will these drive work better in a

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x 2TB > green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up as > a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. > > Btw. will these drive work better in a

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Andy Wodfer
Thanks a lot to all who responded to my post. I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x 2TB green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up as a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. Btw. will these drive work better in a ZFS "pool/tank"

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Wootton
On 11/18/10 18:23, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm drive would be OK. Seems like the green line of WD harddrives use both 5400rpm and 7200rpm. I will use RAID 5. I wo

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: >> Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm drive >> would be OK. Seems like the green line of WD harddrives use both 5400rpm and >> 7200rpm. I will use RAID 5. > > I would stay away from the green

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2010/11/18 at 8:44, ryan.cole...@cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) wrote: FYI: I used Seagate hard drives (I hear they are coming out with a 3TB internal drive any day now): Yes, but a 5200-5400 RPM drive, I believe. From the OP: On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote: Hard

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote: > >> Total storage in version 1 of this server will >> probably be 8-12 TB. > ... >> The processor will be a 64bit capable Intel processor and I plan on using a >> Highpoint Rocke

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote: Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB. ... The processor will be a 64bit capable Intel processor and I plan on using a Highpoint Rocketraid or 3ware Raid controller. ... 1. Which FreeBSD version should

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles > (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB > or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will > probably be

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles > (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB > or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will > probably be 8-12 T

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:51:13 + Bruce Cran wrote: > There's a guide to installing FreeBSD on zfs at > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot . Note that even if you > have a 'legacy' BIOS you can still use GPT - if you use the MBR scheme > you'll be limited to a maximum partition of 2TB.

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry missed the ZFS part. > > >>> >>> 2. I know that the 3ware Raid controller supports larger drives than 2TB >> (or >>> was it 1TB?). The Highpoint controller I'm not so sure of, but I've had >> good >>> experience with these on a few Windows s

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:42:14 +0100 Andy Wodfer wrote: > Thanks! I didn't know I could use amd64 on Intel servers. Then my next > questions will be: How about the ports collection - does the 64bit > version have most of the ports? I need ffmpeg, php, apache, mysql, > imagemagick, ghostscript, exif

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/11/2010, at 23:12, Andy Wodfer wrote: > [snip] > >>> 1. Which FreeBSD version should I install? (it must support large >> drives). >>> I'm currently using the standard FreeBSD 8.1 (STABLE) on several servers, >>> but this is a 32bit version, r

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Andy Wodfer
[snip] > > 1. Which FreeBSD version should I install? (it must support large > drives). > > I'm currently using the standard FreeBSD 8.1 (STABLE) on several servers, > > but this is a 32bit version, right? I suppose I need a 64bit version when > I > > use large harddrives? > > Freebsd has been 64

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/11/2010, at 22:46, Andy Wodfer wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles > (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB > or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in

FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Andy Wodfer
Hi, I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB. Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm