Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-09-22 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, b. f. wrote: > > Okay.  Maybe we'll see a convergence of the two in the medium/long > term.  Right now, interested parties need to look at the available > hardware, and then talk to the vendors about whether they would be > willing to support a port of their softwa

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 21.08.2010 11:01, "C. Bergström" wrote: *snip* > (Hope I don't come across negative... I'm just trying to give real > feedback based on our experience) No coming-across-as-negative interpreted. ;) As I said, my two 5970s sit in a windows box... //Svein -- +---+--

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread C. Bergström
Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: On 18.08.2010 18:20, "C. Bergström" wrote: Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-21 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 18.08.2010 18:20, "C. Bergström" wrote: > Hi Oliver, > >> The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do >> not know were to start. > Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it > and taking small steps in the right direction. >> First, and this h

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread b. f.
On 8/20/10, Eduardo wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:24:16 + > "b. f." wrote: > Reading documentation, thanks b. f. I'm already on freebsd-hackers > list. Is that the correct list for this topic? If you have a specific technical question about FreeBSD internals, then freebsd-hackers is proba

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread Eduardo
Hi b. f. On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:24:16 + "b. f." wrote: > ... > > > MPI is typically dependent on the network not OpenMP. OpenMP 3.0 > > can be made more scalable if there's tasks built-into the kernel > > http://www.bsdcan.org/2010/schedule/events/169.en.html > > , and I'm sure the

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread b. f.
... > MPI is typically dependent on the network not OpenMP. OpenMP 3.0 can > be made more scalable if there's tasks built-into the kernel that can > be cleanly exposed to userland. (Like OpenSolaris + libtask from > Moinak is a good example) If you have a specific set of modifications in mind,

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-20 Thread Eduardo
Sorry for the dalay: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:26:16 +0700 "C. Bergström" wrote: > No, PathScale has a full NVIDIA replacement. From front-end > programming model to kernel driver. (I'm happy to give more > information, but don't want to spam the list) Oks, > > FreeBSD has better OpenMP capab

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread C. Bergström
emor...@xroff.net wrote: Hi Christopher, "C. Bergström" escribió: PathScale and CAPS recently announced HMPP as a new manycore GPGPU open standard and there's a chance you'll see it ported to FBSD. In addition to this you could see other open standards working well on FBSD, but that depend

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread emorras
Hi Christopher, "C. Bergström" escribió: PathScale and CAPS recently announced HMPP as a new manycore GPGPU open standard and there's a chance you'll see it ported to FBSD. In addition to this you could see other open standards working well on FBSD, but that depends on market demand and

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread C. Bergström
Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps in the right direction. First, and this hasn't changed since the last 15 years, FreeBSD lack in

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-18 Thread Ivan Klymenko
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Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-17 Thread Ivan Klymenko
> There are some other "problems" (please note that i don't follow the > -current nor -kernel lists) > > a) Who knows how to implement Kernel Mode Settings for this? > b) Are KMS drivers desirable in FreeBSD? > c) Is it in the roadmap for FreeBSD9 or 8.x? > d) Anyone wants to do the work? proba

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-17 Thread emorras
Pieter de Goeje escribió: The amd64 driver was an illustration of something where raising awareness or whatever you might call it actually helped IMHO. Unfortunately this is a chicken-and-egg problem. No HPC users means no demand means no incentive to do something about it means no HPC users

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 23:00:52 Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 08/16/10 21:13, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly ab

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 08/16/10 21:13, Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 08/16/10 16:50, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 16:50:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > > > I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. > > > To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and > > > that they very much

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:33:33PM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > > I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. > > To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and > > that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA supported. how is this different fro

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Klymenko
> I think it might be worthwhile to contact nVidia directly about this. > To raise awareness that there are people using FreeBSD for HPC and > that they very much would like to see OpenCL/CUDA supported. http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152742 __

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 16 August 2010 15:47:13 emor...@xroff.net wrote: > Ivan Klymenko escribió: > > В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 > > "O. Hartmann" пишет: > > > > I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the > > necessary extensions for clang/llvm ... > > http://clang.llvm.org/docs/L

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread emorras
Ivan Klymenko escribió: В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 "O. Hartmann" пишет: I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the necessary extensions for clang/llvm ... http://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#vectors Yes, you can compile OpenCL but you can't execut

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:10 +0200 "O. Hartmann" пишет: I think that OpenCL can be activated in FreeBSD, if you add the necessary extensions for clang/llvm ... http://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#vectors and a few links on the topic ... http://www.khronos.org/message_boards/viewtop

Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-16 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:53:10AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > First, and this > hasn't changed since the last 15 years, FreeBSD lack in support of > professional Compiler vendors. I feel your pain. I'd say that at present FBSD cannot be used as HPC platform. Even if some things are possible

FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

2010-08-14 Thread O. Hartmann
Hello. The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. I use FreeBSD at my lab and private for scientific stuff. In most cases, FreeBSD performed sufficiently for tasks we/I had to do. But this picture has changed. Modelling atsrodynamical problems I