Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Doug Hardie
On 24 November 2012, at 16:36, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 11/24/2012 05:58 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:38:35 -0600 >> Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> >>> I am currently running FBSD 8.3-STABLE on a production server that >>> provides http, dns, smtp, and so on for a sma

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I use the amd64 install DVD. With or without deleting, I can't format a bootable FreeBSD partition to ada0s1, aka Linux /dev/sda1. FWIW if I reinstall GRUB legacy to /dev/sda, the boot flag will be set for the extended partition. /dev/sda1 is an empty ex

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Eric S Pulley
--On November 24, 2012 10:38:35 AM -0600 Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am currently running FBSD 8.3-STABLE on a production server that provides http, dns, smtp, and so on for a small domain. This is not a high arrival rate environment but it does need to be rock solid (which FBSD 4-8 have been).

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 11/24/2012 03:48 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: It is not however sufficient to get you a completely upgraded system: you will still have to re-install all of your ports. Otherwise, as you end up trying to upgrade ports by ones and twos over time, you'll

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 02:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:27 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > I meant the "really manual mode" (CLI) as to be seen in > > Fig. 3-10, named "Shell" (that's why the confusion, sorry). PS: Don't worry, it was clear what you wanted to say. As a newbi

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:27 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > I meant the "really manual mode" (CLI) as to be seen in > Fig. 3-10, named "Shell" (that's why the confusion, sorry). > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html "Manually Create Partitions" does

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 06:16 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: On 25/11/2012 04:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: But I have had essentially no problems doing in-place major rev updates with FreeBSD thus far. The only breakage I am worried about now is whether the new compiler change breaks things that used to work just f

Re: Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Krissada Jindanupajit
- Sent via BlackBerry from Thai Citrus -Original Message- From: Walter Hurry Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgDate: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:02:51 To: Subject: Re: Another question about pkgng On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:54:50 +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/11/2012 20:28, Walte

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 05:58 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:38:35 -0600 Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am currently running FBSD 8.3-STABLE on a production server that provides http, dns, smtp, and so on for a small domain. This is not a high arrival rate environment but it does need to

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Shane Ambler
On 25/11/2012 04:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: But I have had essentially no problems doing in-place major rev updates with FreeBSD thus far. The only breakage I am worried about now is whether the new compiler change breaks things that used to work just fine. For example, will my make.conf settings

Re: Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:54:50 +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/11/2012 20:28, Walter Hurry wrote: >> When I issue 'pkg version -R' it does not actually use the remote >> repository for comparison; instead it uses the local cache of the >> remote repository, i.e. it checks local.sqlite against r

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:38:35 -0600 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I am currently running FBSD 8.3-STABLE on a production server that > provides http, dns, smtp, and so on for a small domain. This is not > a high arrival rate environment but it does need to be rock solid > (which FBSD 4-8 have been).

OT: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:27 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > I'm just too stupid to use a computer. :-) I once wanted to delete a broken Linux, before restoring it from a backup, but by accident deleted the broken Linux + the only backup too. No drugs involved. In around 20 years using computers, I was

Re: I Guess I Don't Understand NFS As Well As I Thought

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 05:13 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On 24 November 2012, at 14:37, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 11/24/2012 03:25 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On 24 November 2012, at 12:32, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Can someone kindly explain what is going on here: Machine A: FreeBSD - was running 8, just upgraded

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:07:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 23:35 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > > /dev/sda1 63 12127468460637311 83 Linux > > > > This is the partition you're going to inst

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 23:35 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > You can also switch to "manual mode" I did this first and it didn't work. Regards, Ralf PS: I very often receive mails two times :(, from the list and directly send to me. I notice that "mailing list" options for the MUA are broken. Is mailm

Re: I Guess I Don't Understand NFS As Well As I Thought

2012-11-24 Thread Doug Hardie
On 24 November 2012, at 14:37, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 11/24/2012 03:25 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: >> >> On 24 November 2012, at 12:32, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> >>> Can someone kindly explain what is going on here: >>> >>> Machine A: FreeBSD - was running 8, just upgraded to 9.1-PRE >>>

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 23:35 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sda1 63 12127468460637311 83 Linux > > This is the partition you're going to install FreeBSD to? > Good, just delete it and let the installer do th

Re: How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:14:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I use the amd64 install DVD. > > With or without deleting, I can't format a bootable FreeBSD partition to > ada0s1, aka Linux /dev/sda1. You mention ada0s1. This is not a partition. It's called a slice (different term: "DOS primary partiti

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 03:48 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: It is not however sufficient to get you a completely upgraded system: you will still have to re-install all of your ports. Otherwise, as you end up trying to upgrade ports by ones and twos over time, you'll end up with a complete rat's nest of contra

Re: I Guess I Don't Understand NFS As Well As I Thought

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 03:25 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On 24 November 2012, at 12:32, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Can someone kindly explain what is going on here: Machine A: FreeBSD - was running 8, just upgraded to 9.1-PRE (I don't recall seeing the behavior described below in V8, but

Re: Odd X11 over SSH issue

2012-11-24 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Paul Kraus wrote: > I am seeing very poor response time running the VitrualBox GUI via X11 > tunneled over SSH via the Internet. The issue _appears_ to be limited > to the VBox GUI as Firefox is reasonable. I am well aware of the > latency issues tunneling X11 over

How to create a partition for FreeBSD 9.0?

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I use the amd64 install DVD. With or without deleting, I can't format a bootable FreeBSD partition to ada0s1, aka Linux /dev/sda1. FWIW if I reinstall GRUB legacy to /dev/sda, the boot flag will be set for the extended partition. /dev/sda1 is an empty ext3 partition, size 57.83 GiB. Regards, Ralf

Re: Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 24/11/2012 20:28, Walter Hurry wrote: > When I issue 'pkg version -R' it does not actually use the remote > repository for comparison; instead it uses the local cache of the remote > repository, i.e. it checks local.sqlite against repo.sqlite. > > That's fine, but should it not do a 'pkg upda

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 24/11/2012 16:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I am contemplating moving to the FBSD 9 family. Is this branch ready > for production or should I wait a while yet? I ordinarily avoid x.0 > releases of anything and I know 9.1 is soon going to be with us. 9-STABLE works for me. I've run into a few qui

Re: I Guess I Don't Understand NFS As Well As I Thought

2012-11-24 Thread Doug Hardie
On 24 November 2012, at 12:32, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Can someone kindly explain what is going on here: > > Machine A: FreeBSD - was running 8, just upgraded to 9.1-PRE >(I don't recall seeing the behavior described below > in V8, but then, I don't think I ever tried it).

Re: Multi-boot Linux + FreeBSD

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you Damien, Lucas and Juergen :) btw. the off topic on multimedia is my bad, I wasn't subscribed to FreeBSD questions. While reading howtos I missed http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/disks.html#grub-loader I'll add title FreeBSD 9.0 root (hd0,a) kernel /boot/loader to my men

I Guess I Don't Understand NFS As Well As I Thought

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Can someone kindly explain what is going on here: Machine A: FreeBSD - was running 8, just upgraded to 9.1-PRE (I don't recall seeing the behavior described below in V8, but then, I don't think I ever tried it). Machine B: Linux Mint Desktop - Machine A acts as an NFS

Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Walter Hurry
When I issue 'pkg version -R' it does not actually use the remote repository for comparison; instead it uses the local cache of the remote repository, i.e. it checks local.sqlite against repo.sqlite. That's fine, but should it not do a 'pkg update' first? __

Re: Multi-boot Linux + FreeBSD

2012-11-24 Thread Damien Fleuriot
While no expert, I would advise against running the kernel directly. The loader allows you to boot in single user which may come handy at times. On 24 Nov 2012, at 18:08, "Lucas B. Cohen" wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > On 2012.11.24 17:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Perhaps later today I'll install 9.0 am

Re: Odd X11 over SSH issue

2012-11-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Paul Kraus writes: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Lowell Gilbert > wrote: > > Yup, I just have not had a chance to chase that one down, and > given that it happens once per SSH session, has not been a high > priority. I mentioned it in the spirit of full disclosure. > >>>

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tim Daneliuk writes: > On 11/24/2012 11:19 AM, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: >> I wouldn't >> blindly trust and drop an operating system on production servers, no >> matter how good the feedback from outside my organization sounds. > > In general, I'd agree with you. Certainly, that's been the case > wi

Re: RME audio card user new to FreeBSD

2012-11-24 Thread Juergen Lock
In article <1353768334.2641.21.camel@q> you write: >Thank you! You're welcome! > >On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 15:14 +0100, Juergen Lock wrote: >> Don't want to try 9.1RC3? > >I thought it would be better to start with something "stable" as a >newbie and now burning already is in progress. > Well I don'

Re: Compatability for various USB 3.0 / PCIe cards ?

2012-11-24 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.23 22:11, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > Well friends, it's that time of year again... yep, it's shop till you drop > time! For me it's usually *after* Christmas season, but whatever works :) > I can't imagine > that there is really that much different about the pricey ones to make > t

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 11/24/2012 11:19 AM, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: I wouldn't blindly trust and drop an operating system on production servers, no matter how good the feedback from outside my organization sounds. In general, I'd agree with you. Certainly, that's been the case with Linux, AIX, and so on over the ye

Re: Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.24 17:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I am contemplating moving to the FBSD 9 family. Is this branch ready > for production or should I wait a while yet? This probably won't help much, but I wouldn't call any system "production ready" until I've tested it as thoroughly as possible and quali

Re: Multi-boot Linux + FreeBSD

2012-11-24 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Hi Ralf, On 2012.11.24 17:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Perhaps later today I'll install 9.0 amd64. If possible I'll keep my > Linux GRUB legacy. Can I use my menu.lst [1] and add a chainloader or > something similar to boot FreeBSD from /dev/sda1? I don't know if GRUB v1 allows that, on a multiboot s

Bug or feature - arp command on vlan in 9.0

2012-11-24 Thread Radek Krejča
Hi, I have about 120 FBSD routers - diskless. I use FBSD 8.2, with no problems. But now I am trying 9.0, the same configuration I found difference of behavior command arp between 8.2 and 9.0. In 8.2 I can see arp of ip on all devices, physical and vlans. vlan356: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500

Is FreeBSD 9 Production Ready?

2012-11-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I am currently running FBSD 8.3-STABLE on a production server that provides http, dns, smtp, and so on for a small domain. This is not a high arrival rate environment but it does need to be rock solid (which FBSD 4-8 have been). I am contemplating moving to the FBSD 9 family. Is this branch rea

Multi-boot Linux + FreeBSD

2012-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, as a long time Linux user I'll test FreeBSD, because I've got issues with my sound card on Linux. I'm already subscribed to FreeBSD multimedia. Perhaps later today I'll install 9.0 amd64. If possible I'll keep my Linux GRUB legacy. Can I use my menu.lst [1] and add a chainloader or something

Re: PF and tables for disabling network

2012-11-24 Thread David Demelier
On 23/11/2012 15:58, Fleuriot Damien wrote: On Nov 23, 2012, at 3:46 PM, David Demelier wrote: Hello, I would like to disable the network traffic for specific IPs, for the moment I just add to my pf.conf a rule that will block everything for a specified table like this : table [...] other

Anyone using squid and pf?

2012-11-24 Thread Leslie Jensen
I've upgraded squid from 3.1 to 3.2. Starting squid 3.2 with the same configuration file now gives me errors in cache.log when one tries to access any site, and of course no access! 2012/11/24 16:24:56 kid1| WARNING: Forwarding loop detected for: Reverting back to 3.1 works. I know there ar

Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 24 November 2012 10:14, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page, >> whether I need this device in the kernel or not. >> The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to >> show dmesg? >> >> Please advise

Re: Should newfs include -S 4096? was Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3

2012-11-24 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, free...@johnea.net wrote: One of the complications was getting old metadata off of the drive. After trying a couple of 'dd' invocations: # overwriting the first sector dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ada0 bs=512 count=1 # also tried overwriting the last sector diskinfo ada0 | cut -

Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page, > whether I need this device in the kernel or not. > The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to > show dmesg? > > Please advise > > Thanks > Anton > > > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-24 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, November 21, 2012 a las 09:19:24PM -0700, Warren Block escribió: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote: The fdisk/bsdlabel section of my disk setup article has been rewritten to use gpart. Feedback welcome. http://www.wonkity.