Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). > I would probably not do so. The pkg_add utility is especially useful when building a new installation from scratch, because it additionally automaticall

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
Hi Polytropon, Firstly, thanks for your suggestion. * Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: > You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages. > Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are > centrally built from the ports tree). I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports in

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in > the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle. > It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to > look at it using mplayer. Fi

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg > > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw > > since I live in a Windows free zone at home

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports. > Main problem is KDE, big big ports. > Okay, I shall do it, when I have time. You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages. Those are quite synchon with the ports t

Re: mailing list archive as mbox

2010-03-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: > hi there, > > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you can download weekly

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* Chuck Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) wrote: > Yes, it's not enough. > > When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from > 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any > libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version > of the f

Re: Non-maskable interrupt trap

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD > (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), > everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the > reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately > too big to read by

mailing list archive as mbox

2010-03-06 Thread Alexander Best
hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? cheers. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu

Non-maskable interrupt trap

2010-03-06 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately too big to read by any text editor. The trap

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:06, Mikhail Goriachev wrote: > > Jason Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd wrote: > >> > >>> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > >>> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrot

[ANSWERED] Re: Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/06/10 16:57, Jerry wrote: > Please check out this URL: > > http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml > > I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind > that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem. > I'll just wait for FreeBSD to upda

Re: Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:28 -0600 Programmer In Training articulated: > According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in > FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I > just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it > because of the thre

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Frank Steinborn
Tim Judd wrote: > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug > > symbols > > options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption > > > > why are these still in GENERIC after release? > > I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but t

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: >> > >> >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> >> > Hello all, >> >> > >> >> > I am currently tracking

Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Programmer In Training
According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it because of the thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the instructions in UPDATING don't s

Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD?

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 18:06, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Bas v.d. Wiel wrote: > >> Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >>> >>> Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). Well , the opensource ati driver

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed >> that >> > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging wa

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: > On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed > that > > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was > > supposed to be left out once the 8 b

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > Hello all, > > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed > light on this subject?

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread George Liaskos
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. Actually this option exists http://www.youtube.com/html5 The problem is Opera a

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:44 PM, James Phillips wrote: Correction: Apple stopped selling computers with floppy drives about 10 years ago. The floppy drive is not obsolete because there is still no viable replacement that has the same (or better) functionality. While I think floppy drives are s

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >>> since I live in a

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread James Phillips
> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:38 + > From: Matthew Seaman > Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy > To: per...@pluto.rain.com > Cc: questi...@freebsd.org, > plukaw...@gmail.com > Message-ID: <4b92265e.5030...@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > -BEG

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: >> What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? >>     You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. > > That looks like a handy tool.  Is there a versi

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? > You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. That looks like a handy tool. Is there a version that will run on FreeBSD? -- Chad Perrin [ original co

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to Matthew> dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. High-numbered MX came from a time where an internal machine could only be delivered from outside via an external ga

Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed light on this subject? _

Re: Can't install octave

2010-03-06 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
On Friday 05 of March 2010 17:09:56 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 2010-Mar-05, 16:47, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > > There has been one more commit on that port: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch > >-src_filename_list.cxx.diff?r1=1.4;r2=1.5;f=h > > > >

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 > > On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 + Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > > > On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > The spamtrap

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? Are they assuming a 'secondary' MX

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robert Huff wrote: >>  > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime >>  > YT changes its embedding. >> >>  That's what "make update" is used for. :-) > >        More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if > they're different) fixing thi

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Chuck Swiger writes: > For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major > version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. :-)

-STABLE vs security branches, was: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? I don't know what do you mean. Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx). Whenever new release or new branch is available, I shall do either wget iso images

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Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: > > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > > YT changes its embedding. > > That's what "make update" is used for. :-) More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, My expe

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and pac

Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: > A small addition: In order to be able to use X with an > initialisation file even when not using XDM (i. e. starting X by > "startx") AND not having to maintain two startup files (.xsession > and .xinitrc) AND furthermore incorporating shell settings for > the shell of c

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread Ross Cameron
What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. The revision 3 and above system boards can run 64bit OS's. Also if you're CPU is one of the following a a BIOS upgrade/setting may enable the full set of processor feature

Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition

2010-03-06 Thread Martin McCormick
Fbsd1 writes: > just dd the image to what ever drive you want That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will not work on an active file system. Memory disk images apparently survive until reboot so there is a p

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Harald Weis
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. > Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). > All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. > For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. >

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:24:30 +0100, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment > floppies are the best or even the only solution. > [...] > The decision to make floppies obsolete is very bad, because it is still > needed by many people. Sometimes

Pinnacle nanostick 73e on FreeBSD, possible?

2010-03-06 Thread Leslie Jensen
I'm curious if it's possible to get a pinnacle nanostick 73e to work with Freebsd. When inserted /var/log/messages repports the following root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x2304 product 0x0237 bus uhub7 kernel: ugen7.2: at usbus7 /Leslie ___ free

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince > > them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating > > systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reaso

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Piotr Lukawski
In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment floppies are the best or even the only solution. Actually if I haven't found the solution to use floppy to install FreeBSD, I would be forced to use another system eg. OpenBSD instead, even if I prefer FreeBSD. The decision to mak

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. A very useful feature, especially for offline operations. > However, there are other video

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince > them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating > systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason > for Adobe to follow a crying "Please!" :-) There is only one

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. > > Well,

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jerry wrote: > Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of > supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business > venture. Well, that's their decision, of course. However, Linux and FreeBSD aren't so far apart either, at least

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped > because few current (or even recent) systems have a floppy drive at > all, much less a bootable one. Yeah, but the floppy disk

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 > On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 + Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > The spamtrap is a shiny o

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Piotr Lukawski wrote: > ... I really cannot understand why nobody can change > just one parameter and put the file in a proper place in > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/ I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped because few current (o

Re: can't bring ath0 up

2010-03-06 Thread Colin Brace
Leslie Jensen wrote: > > If it's a wireless you need to set wlan0 as described in the handbook. > This is new from version 8. > The handbook hasn't been updated yet, but the man page for ath has all the details: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ath These commands work for me: ifconfi

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Graham Bentley
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, "Graham Bentley" > wrote: >> >> > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. >> >> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! > > I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed > a working "Flash" support from my system. I rathe

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: > > When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild > > *all* ports. > ... > Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports > relating to their work. > They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for exa

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -, "Graham Bentley" wrote: > Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against > such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not > complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer > for us? In fact, if Adobe wishes

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw > since I live in a Windows free zone at home. Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT I don'

Re: Calculating kernel/user/idle time

2010-03-06 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 11, Message: 8 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:20 -0600 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 05), Peter Steele said: > > > What's the proper way to calculate kernel/user/idle time? I know the raw > > values come from sysctl kern.cp_time, but these

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:49:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [SNAFU] > That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced > it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may > review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. > > But as it has already been mentioned, that's a