how to resolve openldap version conflict

Hi, I am trying to install Samba3 from the ports collection onto freeBSD 4.10. The Make terminated because there was an earlier version of openldap already installed, and the new one wanted to store files in the same directory. When i tried to pkg_delete the old version, it refused, saying that

Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

How to I totaly replace Bind8x on my 5.2.1 system? Is there a command to run to replace bind8 durring install? Do I need to make changes to my startup files? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

log reader

Hi does anybody know a good looking log reader for firewall and access? I mean something which gets the log and formats in tables like excel file, organized and easy to read. I have to read a lot and makes me tired, so I was wondering if there is anyway to make it look better and easy on eye Tha

does a working driver exist for the nForce2 MCP nic?

Hello, Out of general principle, I would like to get the onboard NIC working on an MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo. I have checked the archives and googled this issue. I found A LOT of discussion. To sum up, Bill Paul was trying to get nVidia to cooperate, but they were having none of it. According to http:

RE: Outbound SMTP filtering

MIMEDefang -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Rogness Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 06:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Outbound SMTP filtering I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM and Virii from be

Re: PHP4 port broken?

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Chris Boyd wrote: On Aug 9, 2004, at 5:00 PM, Bill Moran wrote: The PHP port has been divvied up into a number of ports, so other ports can specify only what parts of PHP they need. For example, after you install php4, you can then install lang/php4-gettext to add gettext suppo

Re: advertising on your site....

I'd try one of the email addresses listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-who.html - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: Re: advertising on your site >

Re: advertising on your site....

This is FreeBsd OS Questions mailing list mate. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: advertising on your site > Here is what I would like to offerI will pay the site own of "FreeBSD.org" $2,000 a

advertising on your site....

Here is what I would like to offerI will pay the site own of "FreeBSD.org" $2,000 a month in exchange for making 10 sub domain names of "FreeBSD.org" with the words that i need and also, linking to these url's from your site (site wide). If you have any interest at all please give me a call

USB KVM Keyboard Drop Work-Around (almost, need help!!)

Bear with on this one, it is a little long, but I wanted to describe problem with as much detail as possible. I recently purchased a USB KVM to switch between my Windows XP Box and FreeBSD (5.2.1-RELEASE) file/web development server. I was able to use the USB keyboard after a boot, but as soon as

Re: PHP4 port broken?

On Aug 9, 2004, at 5:00 PM, Bill Moran wrote: The PHP port has been divvied up into a number of ports, so other ports can specify only what parts of PHP they need. For example, after you install php4, you can then install lang/php4-gettext to add gettext support to it. OK, thanks to Bill, Paul, a

freebsd 4.10 ATA problem

Hi list. I recently installed FreeBSD 4.9 on a Dell Poweredge 1500SC with dual PIII 1.3GHz, a SCSI drive for the OS and some IDE's for storage. I experienced crashes that seemed to be related to the IDE controller so I cvsuped to latest 4.10, but the problem is still there. Here are the last li

Fw: Only WDMA2?

> Mark wrote: > In my FreeBSD 4.9R server, I use an ARAID99 1000L RAID system. However, it only runs at "WDMA2": Aug 9 21:08:36 asarian-host /kernel: ad0: 39205MB >>> 1000 Rev 2.5> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 >>> WDMA2 only offers 16 MB/s, whereas ATA133 of course,

Re: D-Link DWL-520 won't initialize

On Aug 9, 2004, at 5:40 PM, David Kelly wrote: wi0: mem 0xfc00-0xfc000fff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci2 wi0: timeout in wi_cmd 0x; event status 0x wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. : init failed device_probe_and_attach: wi0 attach returned 6 Update: exact same card on an Asus P2B PII-

USB HD support in 4.9?

I've considered purchasing a external harddrive, preferably USB, and installing freebsd on it and use it as a rsync backup server for my production system. I'm using 4.9-RELEASE, anyone out there using a external USB HD successfully and which manufacturer? Michael __

MIDI? (Was: 5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3)

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:27:04AM -0400, fbsd_user wrote: > 5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3 [snip] > See http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html What's the status of MIDI? Any chance to get it back in 5.3R? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/

BuildWorld Compile Error

===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -DHAVE_

Re: A question about /tmp

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 03:51:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Well, that is debateable. The safest is for /tmp to be its own > partition/filesystem. If you have it in root, and some runaway process > fills it up, it can bring the system to a grinding halt. So, unless I The problem her

Authentication Problem/Login problem

Hi, I have setup qmail with vpopmail+courier-imap and are using a virtual domain. Its named "mail.birch.se". Im running it on FreeBSD 5.2.1. I have used this guide to accomplish this: "http://www.stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/cat_qmail.php"; (Qmail HOWTO 1 thru chapter 3.) I have also read

Re: Only WDMA2?

Mark wrote: >>> In my FreeBSD 4.9R server, I use an ARAID99 1000L RAID system. >>> However, it only runs at "WDMA2": >>> >>> Aug 9 21:08:36 asarian-host /kernel: ad0: 39205MB >> 1000 Rev 2.5> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 >> >>> WDMA2 only offers 16 MB/s, whereas ATA133 of course, offers 133

Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

Nick Rogness wrote: I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM and Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD running sendmail). A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance? Just outbound SMTP traffic only. Any suggestions? Nick

Outbound SMTP filtering

I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM and Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD running sendmail). A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance? Just outbound SMTP traffic only. Any suggestions? Nick Rogness <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Only WDMA2?

> > In my FreeBSD 4.9R server, I use an ARAID99 1000L RAID system. However, > > it only runs at "WDMA2": > > > > Aug 9 21:08:36 asarian-host /kernel: ad0: 39205MB > 2.5> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > > > WDMA2 only offers 16 MB/s, whereas ATA133 of course, offers 133 MB/s. The > > question

Re: Only WDMA2?

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:06:18PM +, Mark wrote: > Dear Sirs: > > In my FreeBSD 4.9R server, I use an ARAID99 1000L RAID system. However, it > only runs at "WDMA2": > > Aug 9 21:08:36 asarian-host /kernel: ad0: 39205MB 2.5> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > > WDMA2 only offers 16 MB/s,

ACPI and rebooting, not.

Today I've already mentioned wi0 and vinum problems with this machine, a Dell PowerEdge 400SC. Originally it didn't have this problem (its first week) but after exchanging a disk drive it fails to reboot from FreeBSD. Seems to fail where the kernel hands things back to the BIOS. Last message on

vinum does not remember config across boots

Mentioned in the past week or so that I have two 160G SATA drives with one slice each, each slice has 1G reserved (not currently used) for swap, the remainder s1d is for vinum. The two are striped with "vinum stripe -v /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6s1d". At boot vinum often does not remember these drives

Re: A question about /tmp

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 03:00:59PM -0400, Gary Mulder wrote: > Of course having /tmp -> /var/tmp means that you have no valid /tmp in > single user mode where /var is not mounted. That is unless you created > /var/tmp in single user mode, but that would mean /var would be mounted > over the root

D-Link DWL-520 won't initialize

Copied from dmesg: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 wi0: mem 0xfc00-0xfc000fff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci2 wi0: timeout in wi_cmd 0x; event status 0x wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. : init failed device_probe_and_attach: wi0 attach returned 6 Brand new DWL-520 fresh off the shelf. Not to

Re: Swappable Hard drives?

Wojciech Puchar wrote: > with identical drive make copy with dd > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=64k Jerry McAllister wrote: > > You should fdisk the second drive and make is bootable and create > the identical partitions with disklabel ( you can use /stand/sysinstall > to run fdisk and diskla

Re: Accidentally truncated crontab

Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2004 18:38, Bill Moran wrote: > > Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > I just emptied the system crontab, and don't know how I can recover it. > > > I know that the contents are still somewhere on the drive, as I didn'

Re: PHP4 port broken?

Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what's going on with the php4 port? > > It used to present a menu of choices for the compilation options, but > does not anymore on the 4.3.8_2 version I have now. I'm trying to get > curl and gettext support compiled in, but having no luck, even if I t

Re: PHP4 port broken?

--On Monday, August 09, 2004 04:50:08 PM -0500 Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So what's going on with the php4 port? It used to present a menu of choices for the compilation options, but does not anymore on the 4.3.8_2 version I have now. I'm trying to get curl and gettext support compile

PHP4 port broken?

So what's going on with the php4 port? It used to present a menu of choices for the compilation options, but does not anymore on the 4.3.8_2 version I have now. I'm trying to get curl and gettext support compiled in, but having no luck, even if I try hacking the makefile CONFIGURE_ARGS= section t

Re: Accidentally truncated crontab

On Monday 09 August 2004 18:38, Bill Moran wrote: > Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I just emptied the system crontab, and don't know how I can recover it. > > I know that the contents are still somewhere on the drive, as I didn't > > write anything on that partition. > > The

Re: FreeBSD's problem?

Skylar Thompson wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:37:50PM +0300, Vlad Tudorache wrote: Hello! I've been using Linux for 2 years and I know how to configure this system (not using GUI tools!). I'm now trying FreeBSD. My problems are: 1) If I enable ACPI, my floppy disk controller is not seen by t

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 72, Issue 2

Is this considered to be stable? I mean as stable as 4.10? Message: 13 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:27:04 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type:

Only WDMA2?

Dear Sirs: In my FreeBSD 4.9R server, I use an ARAID99 1000L RAID system. However, it only runs at "WDMA2": Aug 9 21:08:36 asarian-host /kernel: ad0: 39205MB [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 WDMA2 only offers 16 MB/s, whereas ATA133 of course, offers 133 MB/s. The question is, is there a rea

Re: file system setup for new system - recommendations?

Just my $0.02NZ on this question: First off partitions - The first thing I do in single user mode in FreeBSD is mount /usr to access basic commands such as more, etc., so what is the point of having / and /usr on separate partitions? Thus I usually allocate 4 to 8GB to / and don't have a separat

Re: kernel preemption in 5.2.x

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:58:31PM -0500, Marc Cabanatuan wrote: > Hi, > > Just curious about kernel preemption on a single CPU x86 > machine...Wondering if it's usable/worth it and how to enable it > at the kernel config level. Is it included in as part of SMP? It's enabled by default, i.e. non-

Re: FreeBSD's problem?

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:37:50PM +0300, Vlad Tudorache wrote: > Hello! > I've been using Linux for 2 years and I know how to configure this system (not using > GUI tools!). I'm now trying FreeBSD. My problems are: > 1) If I enable ACPI, my floppy disk controller is not seen by the kernel! What

FreeBSD's problem?

Hello! I've been using Linux for 2 years and I know how to configure this system (not using GUI tools!). I'm now trying FreeBSD. My problems are: 1) If I enable ACPI, my floppy disk controller is not seen by the kernel! 2) My USB controller tells me that "Error: Restarting port 1/2". 3) If I'm usi

Re: A question about /tmp

> > Gary Mulder wrote: > > Of course having /tmp -> /var/tmp means that you have no valid /tmp in > > single user mode where /var is not mounted. That is unless you created > > /var/tmp in single user mode, but that would mean /var would be mounted > > over the root partition's /var/tmp dir in

Re: A question about /tmp

Gary Mulder wrote: Of course having /tmp -> /var/tmp means that you have no valid /tmp in single user mode where /var is not mounted. That is unless you created /var/tmp in single user mode, but that would mean /var would be mounted over the root partition's /var/tmp dir in multi-user mode, whic

Re: A question about /tmp

Of course having /tmp -> /var/tmp means that you have no valid /tmp in single user mode where /var is not mounted. That is unless you created /var/tmp in single user mode, but that would mean /var would be mounted over the root partition's /var/tmp dir in multi-user mode, which can be non-intui

Re: Accidentally truncated crontab

Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > > I just emptied the system crontab, and don't know how I can recover it. > I know that the contents are still somewhere on the drive, as I didn't write > anything on that partition. > The size of the file must be stored somewhere in the inode, or m

Accidentally truncated crontab

Hi all! I just emptied the system crontab, and don't know how I can recover it. I know that the contents are still somewhere on the drive, as I didn't write anything on that partition. The size of the file must be stored somewhere in the inode, or maybe in the directory, so I could just load the

rsync(1) and the -l(inks) option

I am confused as to the -l option with rsync. If I am to not use this option, does this mean that any symlinks will be followed, and the entire directory structure of the location pointed to by the link will be copied? eg... # rsync -acr /home/steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/steve/backup If /home/

custom bootdisk for installation?

I'm trying to install 5.2.1 on my Thinkpad T30, but it completely freezes when the kernel is booted, specifically at the cardbus driver. I guess there is no kernel configuration before booting as it was in 4.X? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to alter the bootdisk? I believe I might be ab

RE: IPFW/NATD Transparent Proxy

>Your ipfw rules are invalid. They seem to work perfectly. My only gripe is that static rule #15100 is required to succeed with redirect_port from 1.2.3.4:80 to 192.168.2.250:80 when 192.168.1.247 requests a web page using the domain name for 1.2.3.4. I'm looking for a solution that doesn't re

Re: Wait 15 seconds for SCSI to settle

> I have installed FreeBSD5.2.1-RELEASE on Vmware. > When booting I am seeing the message "Wait 15 seconds for SCSI to settle". > The problem is I am not using any SCSI device on my virtual machine. I > tried "sysctl kern.cam.scsi_delay=100" but no improvement. > ... > I want to squeeze maximum per

Re: CD and DVD sets FreeBSD

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:44:38PM +0200, Dirk Bajohr wrote: > Dear Sirs, > We have a new online shop and sell FreeBSD CD sets to (German) > customers. Is it possible to get an entry with a hyperlink at your > website > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > mirrors.ht

Re: MUSIC SERVER.

> I am a university student and i wanted to know from you that is it possible > to store music in a server? To be more precise, Is it possible that you > have a server that is only desighned for storage of music only? > > I hope that my request will be consindered as soon as possible. Do you want

Re: MUSIC SERVER.

vincent kihumba wrote: Dear Sir/Madam I am a university student and i wanted to know from you that is it possible to store music in a server? To be more precise, Is it possible that you have a server that is only desighned for storage of music only? I hope that my request will be consindered as

CD and DVD sets FreeBSD

Dear Sirs, We have a new online shop and sell FreeBSD CD sets to (German) customers. Is it possible to get an entry with a hyperlink at your website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ mirrors.html#MIRRORS-CDROM)? I could send you all the shop details (contact infor

Re: DHCP help

No, I am sure of it because I used my rl0 to connect to the LAN and download all kinds of stuff from the Internet. At that point my FreeBSD was a just box behind a Linksys router connected to the Comcast cable modem and it worked just fine. Then I added IP filtering, rebuilt the kernel, and chan

RE: 4.10-STABLE

>-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 4.10-STABLE > Needing some help here, > I'm experincing compatibility issues with Perl and trying > to rein

Re: MUSIC SERVER.

> > Dear Sir/Madam > > I am a university student and i wanted to know from you that is it possible to store > music in a server? To be more precise, Is it possible that you have a server that > is only desighned for storage of music only? You can do pretty much anything you want with your own

5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3

5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3 The FreeBSD Release Engineering team has published the schedule for the FreeBSD 5.3 stable release. It spans 7 weeks and includes weekly BETA/RC snapshots for testing. The theme for this release is "testing testing testing!" since it is going to b

Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:10:40AM +0200, Stevan Tiefert wrote: > Hello, > > when I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my computer with HDD on ata0-master and > CD-ROM on ata0-slave I got five interessting messages during the > boot-process: > > ... > ad0: 4124MB [8938/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA3

The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-07-18 - 2004-08-07

The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list arc

Re: Setting environmental variable for Netbeans

Peter Ryan wrote: I am treading more unknown ground trying to get NetBeans to run on 4.10. I installed jdk 1.4.2 (thanks to help from here), and have installed this Netbeans via the ports collection. Now when i try to run it, it wants an environmental variable called JDK_HOME to be set. Using ti

usb wireless support?

have we got any? I'm drooling over a Travla c134 mini-itx case, but at present the box needs a pci slot for the wireless NIC -- Try not to have a good time ... This is supposed to be educational. -- Charles Schulz Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns

Re: Kernel Compile Error

Not 100% sure, but you don't have a keyboard device in your kernel (device atkbdc0). I figure if you're compiling in a console (sc0), that you'll need at least atkbdc0. Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bash-2.05b# make buildkernel KERNCONF=POTL > >

Re: Swappable Hard drives?

> > Soon I will have two identical 120GB IDE HDs in my FBSD 4.10 > system. One is to be basically a backup drive. Can I write a > MBR to the second HD and then swap cables when I want to > boot/run the system from the backup HD, assuming I've used pax > or dump to make the file systems identic

Kernel Compile Error

bash-2.05b# make buildkernel KERNCONF=POTL -- >>> Kernel build for POTL started on Mon Aug 9 09:07:24 EST 2004 -- ===> POTL Skiping To The End cc -c -O -pipe -march=pe

Re: MUSIC SERVER.

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 07:54:11 -0500 "vincent kihumba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam > > I am a university student and i wanted to know from you that is it > possible to store music in a server? To be more precise, Is it > possible that you have a server that is only desighned for st

Re: Swappable Hard drives?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We've been buying Compaqs (DL-380s and 580s) for four years now and are happy. Also, IBM's boxes are good. We have a customer who bought Dell and IBM and found that Dell performed about 25% less than the IBM's for the same config. HTH, Siddhartha Robert

Swappable Hard drives?

Speaking of "swappable": I considering building a machine with one or more hot-swappable SCSI drives. Can I do this under FreeBSD (5.x)? If so, what manufacturers and vendors do people recommend? Robert Huff _

Re: Bandwidth shaping for different flows

Siddhartha Jain wrote: Hello, I want to do bandwidth shaping using dummynet. I want the box to act as a bridge only and no layer-3 filtering. To that effect, I have the following parameters in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=ed0,rl0 net.link.ether.bridge=1 net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 n

RE: MUSIC SERVER.

Sure a FreeBSD server can store music files. FreeBSD does not care what is contained in a file, its just another file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of vincent kihumba Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MUSIC S

MUSIC SERVER.

Dear Sir/Madam I am a university student and i wanted to know from you that is it possible to store music in a server? To be more precise, Is it possible that you have a server that is only desighned for storage of music only? I hope that my request will be consindered as soon as possible. Yo

kernel compilation gives error

Hi there, on my laptop I get the following error when doing "make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL" The last part of the error message is: @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include echo "#define INET 1" > opt_inet.h perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src rm -f .depend mkdep -f .

Bandwidth shaping for different flows

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I want to do bandwidth shaping using dummynet. I want the box to act as a bridge only and no layer-3 filtering. To that effect, I have the following parameters in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=ed0,rl0 net.link.ether.bridge=1 net.lin

How to disable UDMA for HDD?

Hello, when I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my computer with HDD on ata0-master and CD-ROM on ata0-slave I got five interessting messages during the boot-process: ... ad0: 4124MB [8938/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=8446347 ad0: TIMEOUT - R

Re: A question about /tmp

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:32:50AM +0200, roland Mathieu wrote: > > Hello, > > I want to install FreeBSD with a small root partition. It's > possible to use a different partition for /tmp, but /tmp can also be a > symbolic link pointing, for example, /var/tmp. Is it a good idea ? If not > what so

A question about /tmp

Hello, I want to install FreeBSD with a small root partition. It's possible to use a different partition for /tmp, but /tmp can also be a symbolic link pointing, for example, /var/tmp. Is it a good idea ? If not what sort of problem will I encounter ? thanks, roland.