Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Eugene Grosbein
> Why compile ports directly on a box that is so hardware constrained that it > will take multiple hours to do, when a "pkg update; pkg upgrade" takes only > a few minutes? I tried really hard to run small virtual machine (1GB RAM, 25G disk) hosted at Hetzner without using ports and can say it's

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 05.10.2017 04:22, Steve Kargl wrote: > I did not state that the "environment is constrained by poudriere". > The environment is contrained due to resource limits. If you > only have 1 Gb of memory and 5-10 GB diskspace, then using poudriere > with zfs and jails is a nonstarter. Yes, I'm aware

Re: FreeBSD telldusd port fix for devd script

2017-10-05 Thread Johan Ström
Hello again, cleaned up and submitted as https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=222790 Found that there was an old PR still hanging around with similar devd patch, which you had already provided, but it was never applied. Well, this one superseeds it :) Glad to hear it works 24/7! Sam

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 05.10.2017 08:14, Adam Weinberger wrote: > Poudriere wants to be everything to everybody First poudriere will have to learn how to run without noticeable overhead compared to "just build from ports" before it could became "everything to everybody" and it needs to became part of base system fo

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Franco Fichtner
> On 5. Oct 2017, at 9:47 AM, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > On 05.10.2017 08:14, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >> Poudriere wants to be everything to everybody > > First poudriere will have to learn how to run without noticeable overhead > compared to "just build from ports" before it could became "ev

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Adam Weinberger (from Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:14:22 -0600): Portmaster is still very much a part of the current landscape, and if somebody steps in to fix it (which I have every expectation will happen eventually), it will continue being a usable alternative. It would help to have a l

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > > The system in question is my last i686 laptop, which I > > use for libm development and testing. Once I cannot use > > that laptop (whether hardware failure or inability to > > update the installed ports), I'll stop worrying about a

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2017-10-05 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Clarke
On Wednesday 04 Oct 2017 16:39:25 Ernie Luzar wrote: > Here's my take on that. > > The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 > years ago with their development of a better pkg system. > > The package system with flavors will cover 90% of the user community > needs. T

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 11:35:58AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > > > The system in question is my last i686 laptop, which I > > > use for libm development and testing. Once I cannot use > > > that laptop (whether hardware failure

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 07:51:16AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 11:35:58AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > > > > The system in question is my last i686 laptop, which I > > > > use for libm development and tes

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:59:41PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 07:51:16AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 11:35:58AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > > > > > The system in quest

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Adam Weinberger
> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:59:41PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 07:51:16AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 11:35:58AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:27:11P

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 08:25:20AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:59:41PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 07:51:16AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 11:35:58AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 201

collectd5 pkg upgrade pulls in 72 new dependencies?

2017-10-05 Thread Pete Wright
hey there - i was doing usual maintaince on my systems today and noticed that when upgrading the collectd5 pkg it pulls in 72 new dependencies, mostly xorg related.  here's a gist of the upgrade command exhibiting this.  the platform 11.1-RELEASE: https://gist.github.com/nomadlogic/53e81ba377a

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl > > wrote: > > Which brings me back to my i686 laptop with limited resources. > > If portmgr makes it impractical/impossible to easily install ports > > without a sledge hammer, then testing

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Adam Weinberger
> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl >>> wrote: >>> Which brings me back to my i686 laptop with limited resources. >>> If portmgr makes it impractical/impossible to easily

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 10:52:51AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: (courtesy long-line wrap) > You seem to be fully convinced in a conspiracy to destroy > portmaster, and I don't get the impression that I'm going > to change your mind. All I can tell you is that impending > portmaster breakage is N

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. [putolin] Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any change and make the most

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 18:41, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 10:52:51AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: (courtesy long-line wrap) You seem to be fully convinced in a conspiracy to destroy portmaster, and I don't get the impression that I'm going to change your mind. All I can tell you is tha

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. [putolin] Don't let the few old school die hearts who are

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote > > On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl > > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >>> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl > >>> wrote: Which brings me back to my i686 laptop with limited resource

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 15:54:32 -0400 Baho Utot wrote > On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > Here's my take on that. > > > > The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 > > years ago with their development of a better pkg system. > > > > [putolin] > > > Don't l

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 21:53, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl wrote: Which brings me back to my i686 laptop with

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. [putolin] Don

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:19 + Grzegorz Junka wrote > On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: > > > > > > On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > >> Here's my take on that. > >> > >> The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders > >> 2 years ago with their development

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Adam Weinberger
> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 15:53, Chris H wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote > >>> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl >>> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: > On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl > wrote: Which bri

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Russell L. Carter
On 10/05/17 14:53, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 5 Oct, 2017, at 9:25, Steve Kargl wrote: Which brings me back to my i686 laptop with lim

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 22:08, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:05:05 + Grzegorz Junka wrote > On 05/10/2017 21:53, Chris H wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote > > > >>> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl > >>> wrote: > >>> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > On

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:13:36 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote > > On 5 Oct, 2017, at 15:53, Chris H wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote > > > >>> On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl > >>> wrote: > >>> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger w

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 22:27, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:05:05 + Grzegorz Junka wrote On 05/10/2017 21:53, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote On 5 Oct, 2017, at 10:28, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wr

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 05/10/2017 22:15, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:19 + Grzegorz Junka wrote On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their devel

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 22:59:31 + Grzegorz Junka wrote > On 05/10/2017 22:15, Chris H wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:19 + Grzegorz Junka wrote > > > >> On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: > >>> > >>> On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >>> > Here's my take on that. > > >

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread tech-lists
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 12:22:30PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote: the currently available package is built against php56. Using poudriere for this one task would be equivalent to using a steamroller to crack a peanut. Building phpMyAdmin from ports is no great problem for me and perhaps future deve

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/05/17 18:13, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> [...] >> Seem a reasonable request? If [found] so, I'll solicit for qualified >> individuals to work with me on it in a new thread. >> >> Thanks for your time, and consideration > > [...] > Let me know what you need. I'll give you whatever support I can

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 19:59:51 -0400 George Mitchell wrote > On 10/05/17 18:13, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >> [...] > >> Seem a reasonable request? If [found] so, I'll solicit for qualified > >> individuals to work with me on it in a new thread. > >> > >> Thanks for your time, and consideration > > >

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 15:37:08 -0700 "Chris H" wrote > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:52:51 -0600 Adam Weinberger wrote ---8<---8<--- > > > Seem a reasonable request? If [found] so, I'll solicit for qualified > > > individuals to work with me on it in a new thread. > > > > > > Thanks for your time, and c

please add configtest command to milter-greylist

2017-10-05 Thread Masachika ISHIZUKA
Dear m.tsatsenko. I want to add 'configtest' extra_command to mail/milter-greylist like that. extra_commands="configtest" configtest_cmd="/usr/local/libexec/milter-greylist -c" -- Masachika ISHIZUKA ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https:

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > > a few inquiries regarding taking maintainer for the port. My request > > was ultimately declined. I was deemed unqualified. That judgement was > > unfounded. :( Right now, tz@ is the maintainer of ports-mgmt/portmaster. If someone wants to become maintainer, the best way is to look at th

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread blubee blubeeme
I'd vote to have Chris H be the maintainer of this port. Why knock the guy if he wants to invest his time and energy into doing something to help the project? Does it cause anyone pain to see someone working on maintaining the project? Why would someone say no you cannot maintain this port, especia

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I'd vote to have Chris H be the maintainer of this port. > Why knock the guy if he wants to invest his time and > energy into doing something to help the project? > Does it cause anyone pain to see someone working on > maintaining the project? Why would someone say no you cannot maintain thi

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 06/10/2017 00:29, tech-lists wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 12:22:30PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote: > >> the currently available package is built against php56. Using >> poudriere for this one task would >> be equivalent to using a steamroller to crack a peanut. Building >> phpMyAdmin from ports