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Hello,
Today I've upgraded one of my personal FreeBSD servers. It's running
FreeBSD 11.0 for a while.
While I use quarterly ports branches, I usually update my ports tree
before installing a new service and I faced some troubles:
www/node was updated from 6.x to 7.x: unfortunately my etherpad
in
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:15:02PM +0200, David Demelier wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I've upgraded one of my personal FreeBSD servers. It's running
> FreeBSD 11.0 for a while.
>
> While I use quarterly ports branches, I usually update my ports tree
> before installing a new service and I faced some
El 22 jun. 2017 14:15, "David Demelier" escribió:
Hello,
Today I've upgraded one of my personal FreeBSD servers. It's running
FreeBSD 11.0 for a while.
While I use quarterly ports branches, I usually update my ports tree
before installing a new service and I faced some troubles:
www/node was u
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:18:56PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:15:02PM +0200, David Demelier wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Today I've upgraded one of my personal FreeBSD servers. It's running
> > FreeBSD 11.0 for a while.
> >
> > While I use quarterly ports branches,
On 2017-06-22 14:15, David Demelier wrote:
While I use quarterly ports branches, I usually update my ports tree
before installing a new service and I faced some troubles:
What works best for us, to keep a stable production, is to track the
HEAD with svn. That way we can pre-empt changes local
2017-06-22 14:18 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Daroussin :
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:15:02PM +0200, David Demelier wrote:
> As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the
> number
> of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to maintain, it
> is
> only one br
ARR and APR-utils are up to 1.6.X
Please update ports accordingly.
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[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
>As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the
>number
>of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to maintain, it
>is
>only one branch).
Please help me out here, Baptiste, be
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:03:33AM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
> [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
> wrote:
>
> >As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the
> >number
> >of branches required (the quarterly branches are already h
2017-06-22 16:16 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Daroussin :
> The model with one branch per release will bring it to way more with a
> maintenance window way larger (actually it is 3 month making the quarterly
> relatively easy to maintain)
So after three months if you don't switch branch, you're outdated
sin
On 2017/06/22 15:03, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
> Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
Two things:
1) It's progress in the development of the FreeBSD base system that
drives the release cycle. The general state of the ports does not exert
much influence on release freque
Hi,
Can anyone have a look at this?
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220212
Thanks in advance.
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On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the number
of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to maintain, it is
only one
On 22.06.2017 21:26, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle
the number
of branches required (the quarterly branches are al
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:38:53 +0100, Matthew Seaman
wrote:
>On 2017/06/22 15:03, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
>> Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
>
>Two things:
>
> 1) It's progress in the development of the FreeBSD base system that
>drives the release cycle. T
On 22/6/17 10:16 pm, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:03:33AM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the number
of branches required (t
On 6/22/2017 11:30 AM, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote:
On 22.06.2017 21:26, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to
handle the numbe
On 22.06.2017 21:56, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 11:30 AM, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote:
On 22.06.2017 21:26, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
As usual with such proposal, where do you
On 22/6/17 11:50 pm, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:38:53 +0100, Matthew Seaman
wrote:
On 2017/06/22 15:03, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
Two things:
1) It's progress in the development of the FreeBSD b
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 17:30:10 +0200, Torsten Zuehlsdorff
wrote:
>I regularly seeing admins setting up different Ubuntu versions, because
>at one you have PHP 7 and on the other MySQL 5.7, but not both at the
>same Ubuntu version.
Which is one of the nice things about having central de
On 2017/06/22 20:56, Baho Utot wrote:
> One could still use releng 11.0 ports with 10.3 OS could they not
No, not in general.
You've got it the wrong way round.
You might get away with releng 10.3 ports and 11.0 OS for a while but it
will likely cause you grief when you do run afoul of a necessa
[Default] On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:01:45 +0800, Julian Elischer
wrote:
>I've had this conversation with ports several times, But the requirements
>of 'business' is not their interest. In fact i was told several times,
>"Don't use our quarterly packages, make your own with poudriere".
>(which make
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:16:44 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
>The model with one branch per release will bring it to way more with a
>maintenance window way larger
It would indeed! Factor of 3, I think.
But I'm really not suggesting that, I'm suggesting that a better
schedule wou
I tried compiling Thunderbird from ports, but it's too big, and there
are errors. I'll try to do it some time again, starting clean.
But in the mean time...
Choosing the macOS extension/add-on format seems to be working for the
binary distribution.
Just go to Most Popular add-ons, and Ligthning
On 06/22/2017 08:53, Julian Elischer wrote:
Yeah but the quarterly branches are relatively useless because they a
not sync'd to anything and mean nothing special to anyone.
They are not useless to me.
I maintain a fair number of different package repositories for various
purposes. Over a long
On 06/22/2017 09:16, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
I can't help feeling that there's something very wrong when
people for whom the system is a tool rather than a plaything have
to work around the choices made by the "official" developers.
I'd say this is true no matter what OS you use these days.
On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 10:43 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
> They are not useless to me.
>
> I maintain a fair number of different package repositories for
> various
> purposes. Over a long period of time I've found that trying to build
> from HEAD is a random crapshoot as to whether everything you wa
On 06/22/2017 11:43, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me use my example of www/node back. I have built the port www/node
in poudriere using this origin (so no version). At the time I've built
it it was a 6.x version. When I upgraded my machine, www/node has
switched to 7.x version and since th
On 2017/06/22 9:00 am, The Doctor wrote:
ARR and APR-utils are up to 1.6.X
Please update ports accordingly.
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
> My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing
> the frequency of port releases is practically *guaranteed* to be
> a Really Good Thing for everyone.
I remember before we had the quarterly releases, and peopl
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
>> My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing
>> the frequency of port releases is practically *guaranteed* to be
>> a Really Good Thing f
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing
the frequency of port releases is practicall
On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reduci
On 22/06/2017 15:50, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:38:53 +0100, Matthew Seaman
wrote:
On 2017/06/22 15:03, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
Two things:
1) It's progress in the development of the FreeBSD
On 22/06/2017 23:16, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
My problem is that my
At svn revision 443684.
After "make clean extract":
work/firefox-45.9.0esr/.mozconfig does not exist.
No file under www/libxul contains the string "--enable-jemalloc=4".
In particular, no patch file in the files directory refers to
.mozconfig or contains "--enable-jemalloc=4".
But after "make pat
Andre,
I've been down this path a few times and Bernard (who looks after
most/all? things related to libressl) does a great job in supporting
people like us that build our own packages.
Out of frustration of build failures, I applied the patch below, please
pay attention to line-breaks.
This isn'
On 6/22/2017 8:31 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
On 22/06/2017 23:16, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scra
Hi!
> Mark, I can only suppose that those complainers are dilettantes
> of some sort who believe that having The Latest-And-Greatest Bits
> is a social-status enhancer. **Nobody** with real work to do
> ever willingly fools away time "fixing" what isn't broken.
There's a blog post from one of th
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:43:14AM +1000, Dewayne Geraghty wrote:
> Andre,
> I've been down this path a few times and Bernard (who looks after
> most/all? things related to libressl) does a great job in supporting
> people like us that build our own packages.
>
> Out of frustration of build failur
On 23/6/17 6:36 am, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing
On 23/6/17 10:39 am, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
Hi!
Mark, I can only suppose that those complainers are dilettantes
of some sort who believe that having The Latest-And-Greatest Bits
is a social-status enhancer. **Nobody** with real work to do
ever willingly fools away time "fixing" what isn't broken.
On 23/6/17 2:57 am, Dave Hayes wrote:
On 06/22/2017 11:43, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me use my example of www/node back. I have built the port www/node
in poudriere using this origin (so no version). At the time I've built
it it was a 6.x version. When I upgraded my machine, www/node h
On 23/6/17 7:28 am, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
On 22/06/2017 15:50, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:38:53 +0100, Matthew Seaman
wrote:
On 2017/06/22 15:03, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing?
Two things:
1) It's
Rightly or wrongly I haven't tested with apr-1.6. I pretty much adhere
to the versions within /usr/ports. Only when there's a CVE do I break
ranks - and usually after I've filed a PR for the (security) issue to be
addressed.
Sometimes the maintainers' need to have their attention drawn to
availa
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:58:14AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> What we want is:
> A "recent" starting point for our next project/upgrade to start from
> and an ongoing version of that, which will get critical fixes only for
> at LEAST 2 years, probably 5.
> The key here is the *_*critical fixes
George Mitchell writes:
> Consequently, the configure script dies at line 26248, complaining
> that "Option, jemalloc, does not take an argument (4)".
Sorry for the bustage. It should be fixed now.
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/444163
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On 23/6/17 12:39 pm, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:58:14AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
What we want is:
A "recent" starting point for our next project/upgrade to start from
and an ongoing version of that, which will get critical fixes only for
at LEAST 2 years, probably 5.
The
Hi!
> > There's a blog post from one of the folks that explains the
> > idea behind that 'fast update' mode of operations, and yes,
> > he's doing real work.
> > http://blog.koehntopp.info/index.php/1776-rolling-out-patches-and-changes-often-and-fast/
> That is ONE kind of installation.
Well, t
On 23/6/17 1:23 pm, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
Hi!
There's a blog post from one of the folks that explains the
idea behind that 'fast update' mode of operations, and yes,
he's doing real work.
http://blog.koehntopp.info/index.php/1776-rolling-out-patches-and-changes-often-and-fast/
That is ONE kind of
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 01:36:26PM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> The problem is that such a set of sponsored branches does not exist so
> knowing who'd sign up and who would't is just guesswork
And that's why neither myself or the other people who have in the past
considered such a business have
You didn't read (or ignored) the last half of my post.
Whatever.
I'll go back to what I was doing before, e.g., cleaning up other people's
messes. Your first two guesses of "what type of commit bits made the
messes" don't count.
mcl
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