Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
>From: "Thomas Mueller" >To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm > unsubscribing > >There are many messages on this thread, and I don't know which or what to >quote, but I agree on send-pr being user-unfriendly. I disagree. I u

Re: ruBSD 2013 pkg talk report

2013-12-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:13:44AM +, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to summarize the feedback I've received from pkg users during > that event. I got many questions about ports and packages and I think > that questions are useful for the overall pkg development. First thank yo

Re: ruBSD 2013 pkg talk report

2013-12-19 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/12/13 11:19, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:13:44AM +, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: >> Hello, >> Q: What if I have a package built from ports with some custom >> options and a repository has newer package but with differen

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2013-12-19 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread John Marino
On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked > broken has to work. I build the entire port tree several times a month. I can tell you from experience that this assumption is not valid. > So, the fault is on our side. Why shou

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-19 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/17/13 17:28, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On 18.12.2013 01:27, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/17/13 15:32, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:12:05 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/17/13 14:07, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrot

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 John Marino wrote: > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked > > broken has to work. > > I build the entire port tree several times a month. I can tell you > from experience tha

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread John Marino
On 12/19/2013 14:41, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 > John Marino wrote: > >> On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked >>> broken has to work. >> >> I build the entire port tree seve

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Rodrigo Osorio
On 19/12/13 21:41 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 > John Marino wrote: > > > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked > > > broken has to work. > > > > I build the entire po

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:46:41 +0100 Rodrigo Osorio wrote: > On 19/12/13 21:41 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 > > John Marino wrote: > > > > > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > you got the point. We have to assume that a po

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Rodrigo Osorio
On 19/12/13 22:09 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:46:41 +0100 > Rodrigo Osorio wrote: > > > On 19/12/13 21:41 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 > > > John Marino wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich

radeonhd driver DEPRECATED?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Huff
Or so the Makefile says. What's the canonical replacement? Respectfully, Robert Huff ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubsc

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 12/17/2013 4:33 PM, John Marino wrote: > Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and > mail it to ports@, usually without even saying "hello". I've tried to > discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list encourage > this method of bypassing writing PRs.

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > I sincerely disagree and think it's quite rude to users to not accept > their reports however they send them to us. current@ constantly has > build failures on it, even automated. There's no reason ports@ shouldn't > either. It tells everyo

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread John Marino
On 12/19/2013 20:07, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > I sincerely disagree and think it's quite rude to users to not accept > their reports however they send them to us. current@ constantly has > build failures on it, even automated. There's no reason ports@ shouldn't > either. It tells everyone that "yes

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 12/19/2013 1:21 PM, John Marino wrote: > On 12/19/2013 20:07, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> >> I sincerely disagree and think it's quite rude to users to not accept >> their reports however they send them to us. current@ constantly has >> build failures on it, even automated. There's no reason ports@

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread John Marino
On 12/19/2013 20:28, Bryan Drewery wrote: > I didn't say I spoke for portmgr. I just don't see the big deal and it's > odd that it's OK on 1 list but not another. It's anti-user to get mad at > them for trying to get help or report it for others. Of course we prefer > they use GNATS, but go look in

Re: ruBSD 2013 pkg talk report

2013-12-19 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov
On 19/12/13 19:10, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 12/17/2013 6:13 PM, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: >> Hello, > >> I'd like to summarize the feedback I've received from pkg users >> during that event. I got many questions about ports and packages >> and I think that questions are useful for the overall pkg >

The FreeBSD Ports Mangement team has a Google Community

2013-12-19 Thread FreeBSD Ports Management Team Secretary
I am pleased to announce that portmgr@ now has a Google Community. We have very slowly been building up membership through our Circles, and now it it time to announce it to all! You can find us at https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108335846196454338383 Come join our Community and G+1 us :)

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
19.12.2013 23:35, John Marino пишет: > I don't find the status quo personally acceptable, but I only have > control of my actions, therefore "my threats" are the only recourse I > have and thus they are appropriate. May be you just ignore those emails? I don't think that there are plenty of them.

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven
Bryan Drewery wrote: >> If FreeBSD isn't going to enforce their own procedures and use of >> infrastructure, I will limit my exposure to the continuing anarchy and >> let "customer service" to those that agree that ports@ is a >> free-for-all. > [snip] > ports@ is a community that more people read

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven
I wrote: > In short: if the way this list is being used (at least by some, > vis-a-vis the "dump an error log without as much as a hello") Was supposed to be followed by "bothers certain people here" > I wouldn't mind if people were more encouraged to try the forums, [snip] Sorry for the omis

Re: radeonhd driver DEPRECATED?

2013-12-19 Thread Niclas Zeising
On 12/19/13 17:25, Robert Huff wrote: > > Or so the Makefile says. > What's the canonical replacement? > xf86-video-ati. The xf86-video-radeonhd hasn't seen any upstream development since 2010. Regards! -- Niclas Zeising ___ freebsd-ports

Re: radeonhd driver DEPRECATED?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Huff
Niclas Zeising writes: > >Or so the Makefile says. > >What's the canonical replacement? > > xf86-video-ati. The xf86-video-radeonhd hasn't seen any upstream > development since 2010. Thanks. Robert Huff ___

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 01:44:57AM -0800, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > >From: "Thomas Mueller" > > > >There are many messages on this thread, and I don't know which or > >what to quote, but I agree on send-pr being user-unfriendly. > > I disagree. > I use only send-pr to send PRs. > I use sendm

x11/fbpanel: pkg fallout at 10.x

2013-12-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
Hi All! The last week I started to get pkg-fallout@ emails about x11/fbpanel error: - cc panel.o misc.o plugin.o gtkbar.o bg.o gtkbgbox.o ev.o run.o xconf.o gconf.o gconf_panel.o gconf_plugins.o -o fbpanel -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lintl -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -latk

Re: x11/fbpanel: pkg fallout at 10.x

2013-12-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:42:38AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hi All! > > The last week I started to get pkg-fallout@ emails about x11/fbpanel > error: > - > cc panel.o misc.o plugin.o gtkbar.o bg.o gtkbgbox.o ev.o run.o xconf.o > gconf.o gconf_panel.o gconf_plugins.o -o fbpanel -L/usr/l

Re: x11/fbpanel: pkg fallout at 10.x

2013-12-19 Thread Koop Mast
On 20-12-2013 7:58, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:42:38AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: Hi All! The last week I started to get pkg-fallout@ emails about x11/fbpanel error: - cc panel.o misc.o plugin.o gtkbar.o bg.o gtkbgbox.o ev.o run.o xconf.o gconf.o gconf_panel.o g