Re[2]: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-24 Thread Igor M Podlesny
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:29:14AM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: >> >> On 18:51+0300, Dec 21, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: >> >> > I made a patch that adds the "stealthy IP options feature". >> > Honestly, now I'm afraid it's "much ado about nothing", given how >> > clumsy solution is needed for s

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-24 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:29:14AM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > On 18:51+0300, Dec 21, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > I made a patch that adds the "stealthy IP options feature". > > Honestly, now I'm afraid it's "much ado about nothing", given how > > clumsy solution is needed for such a sma

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-22 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hello, On 18:51+0300, Dec 21, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:54:50PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > On 19:49+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > > > As for source routing, I believe a stealthy router should just drop > > > such packets as though it were a host.

Re: IP options (was: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router)

2001-12-22 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hi, Yar, On 19:12+0300, Dec 21, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 01:24:48AM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > > Neither RFC 791 nor RFC 1122 nor RFC 1812 specify the following: > > > if a source-routed IP packet reachs the end of its route, but its > > > destination address

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-22 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:54:50PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On 19:49+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > As for source routing, I believe a stealthy router should just drop > > such packets as though it were a host. Of course, source-routed > > packets destined for the router itse

Re: IP options (was: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router)

2001-12-22 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 01:24:48AM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > Neither RFC 791 nor RFC 1122 nor RFC 1812 specify the following: > > if a source-routed IP packet reachs the end of its route, but its > > destination address doesn't match a current host/router, whether > > the packet should

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread void
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:50:39AM +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > Source routing itself is a Bad Thing, as is TELNET or rlogin. Telnet with Kerberos or other security options can be a fine thing. -- Ben "An art scene of delight I created this to be ..." -- Sun Ra To Unsubscribe:

Re: IP options (was: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router)

2001-12-19 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Morning, On 00:35+0300, Dec 20, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:54:50PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > By the way, is it correct to forward the packet with incorrect ip > > options? Now we do not. > > No RFC seems to specify that particularly. However, RFC 1812 read

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:32:42PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > First of all we should decide what IPSTEALTH is for. Is it just a > > Ruslan's net.inet.ip.decttl or it should really stealth the fact of > > the routing? If the latter how do we behave in source routing case? > > I would assum

IP options (was: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router)

2001-12-19 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:54:50PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > By the way, is it correct to forward the packet with incorrect ip > options? Now we do not. No RFC seems to specify that particularly. However, RFC 1812 reads in general: (1) A router MUST verify the IP header, as describe

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:23:55PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > Hello Yar, > > On 18:19+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > >

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:54:50PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On 19:49+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:23:55PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > > > a router in the IPSTEALT

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Maxim Konovalov
On 19:49+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:23:55PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > > > IP options: kern/23123. > > >

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 05:33:13PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 06:19:29PM +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > > IP options: kern/23123.

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Yar Tikhiy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:23:55PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > > IP options: kern/23123. > > > > The fix proposed seems clean and right to me: don't do

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:23:55PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > Hello Yar, > > On 18:19+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > >

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hello Yar, On 18:19+0300, Dec 19, 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > Hi there, > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > IP options: kern/23123. > > The fix proposed seems clean and right to me: don't do IP

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 06:19:29PM +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > Hi there, > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > IP options: kern/23123. > > The fix proposed seems clean and right to me: don't do I

Re: Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > Hi there, > > I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that > a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing > IP options: kern/23123. > > The fix proposed seems clean and right to me: don't do IP options > at all wh

Processing IP options reveals IPSTEALH router

2001-12-19 Thread Yar Tikhiy
Hi there, I ran into an absolutely clear, but year-old PR pointing out that a router in the IPSTEALTH mode will reveal itself when processing IP options: kern/23123. The fix proposed seems clean and right to me: don't do IP options at all when in the IPSTEALTH mode. Does anyone have objections?