Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Brooks Davis
The fact that FreeBSD 11 has almost five years of support left is part of what makes this a good time to remove support from 12. Updating 11 to support newer cards certainly makes sense. -- Brooks On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 06:30:05AM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote: > For consideration, stable/11 will

Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Hartmut Brandt
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017, ?ukasz W?jcik wrote: ?W>they're not the only ones. Just my 5cents. The other thing is that ATM/NATM ?W>infrastructure in FreeBSD seems to never have been ?W> ?W>finished. That's true. ITU-T used to produce poor-quality ATM standards at a much higher rate than anybody could fo

Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Kevin Bowling
For consideration, stable/11 will be supported until September 30, 2021 which provides a pretty long window to transition. On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Łukasz Wójcik wrote: > Oh, and mbpool DMA syncing does not work at all and -- at least in patm > driver -- causes various issues. > > This of

Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Łukasz Wójcik
Oh, and mbpool DMA syncing does not work at all and -- at least in patm driver -- causes various issues. This of course can be easily worked around if you choose to let ATM ecosystem stay. If my client agrees, I could also share a patch for patm to make it work with newer ProSUM hardware.

Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Łukasz Wójcik
Hi Brooks, AFAIK Prosum still manufactures PROATM155M card that utilizes patm driver (which is by the way a little bit outdated and does not support newer variants of ProSUM cards). I also have clients that still use ATM and prosum cards and FreeBSD. My guess is that they're not the only o

Re: Impending NATM removal

2017-04-07 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, > On 7 Apr 2017, at 00:57, Brooks Davis wrote: > > As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week. This > includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4). None of > these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is time > to move on. I don’t h

Impending NATM removal

2017-04-06 Thread Brooks Davis
As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week. This includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4). None of these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is time to move on. The planned commit can be seen at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 -- B