Ed Schouten wrote:
> * Mel wrote:
>> Example usage:
>> # du -xht 20m .
>> 29M./contrib/binutils
>> 52M./contrib/gcc
>> 237M./contrib
>> 35M./crypto
>> 28M./lib
>> 20M./share
>> 55M./sys/dev
>> 139M./sys
>> 545M.
>
> Ooh! That looks awesome!
>
Would th
All 10GigE NICs and some newer 10 GigE NICs have multiple hardware
queues with a separate MSI-x vector per queue, where each vector is
directed to a different CPU. The current operating model is to have a
separate interrupt thread per vector. This obviously gets bogged down
if one has multiple card
Oops, second 10 GigE should obviously be 1GigE
On Tuesday, June 7, 2011, K. Macy wrote:
> All 10GigE NICs and some newer 10 GigE NICs have multiple hardware
> queues with a separate MSI-x vector per queue, where each vector is
> directed to a different CPU. The current operating model i
Have you taken a look at lldb? It is designed to be more modular.
-Kip
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ewart Tempest wrote:
> I have developed some flight recording capability in the JUNOS FreeBSD based
> kernel, with the flight recorded data being captured in binary form for
> performance. A
Just add them to the makefile. They'll be automatically created as
dependencies.
2011/9/8 Lev Serebryakov :
> Hello, Freebsd-hackers.
>
> I need to include in my kernel module to use
> devctl_notify(). But my module doesn't have device_if.h or bus_if.h,
> which are required by .
> What should
2011/9/8 Lev Serebryakov :
> Hello, K..
> You wrote 8 сентября 2011 г., 18:22:11:
>
>> Just add them to the makefile. They'll be automatically created as
>> dependencies.
> Is it good idea to create these empty files only for one prototype
> from ?
I can't
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi Kip,
>
> I've got a few question about the buf_ring(9) API.
>
> 1) what means the 'drbr_' prefix. I can guess the two last letter, 'b'
> and 'r', for Buffer Ring, but what about 'd' and 'r' ?
DRiver BufRing
> 2) in `sys/sys/buf_ring.h',
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>> Hi Kip,
>>
>> I've got a few question about the buf_ring(9) API.
>>
>> 1) what means the 'drbr_' prefix. I can guess the two last letter, 'b'
>> and 'r', for Buffer Ring, bu
If the value lags next by one then it is ours. This rule applies to
all callers so the rule holds consistently.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:41 AM, K. Macy wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Arnaud Lacombe
You're right. A write memory barrier is needed there.
Thanks
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:46 AM, K. Macy wrote:
>> If the value lags next by one then it is ours. This rule applies to
>> all callers so t
Hello
I'd like to measure the memory footprint in C/C++ code for a
program running under FreeBSD and Linux in terms of total process size
including heap objects. Due to execution length, I'd like to avoid the
use of valgrind.
I think that it would be difficult to achieve the task i
Le 20.10.2011 19:57, Razmig K a écrit :
the memory footprint in C/C++ code for a program running under FreeBSD
and Linux in terms of total process size including heap objects
Well getrusage does actually exist in Linux, but its behaviour
isn't the same as on FreeBSD; struct rusage m
Le 21.10.2011 10:44, Peter Jeremy a écrit :
On 2011-Oct-20 19:57:31 +0200, Razmig K wrote:
It's not clear whether the program is attempting to determine it's
own (or a child's) memory footprint, or that of an arbitrary process.
In the former case, getrusage() is the obvious cho
Le 21.10.2011 12:26, Ivan Voras a écrit :
Well, do you know that SIZE in top is virtual memory size, not resident
size (which is the "RES" column)? You can allocate whatever you want
from virtual memory, it is not "used" until it's touched.
Yes, I do. So do you suggest using RES as a better ind
Hello
Thanks to everyone for tips and insight you gave me on this discussion.
~Razmig
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wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, alan yang wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
>> Wonder people had implemented interface to import / export flowtable.
>
Yes I did, and I added an API to query it more generally. I didn't add
it to net/flowtable.c because my usage seem
Take a look at gcore. That will let you checkpoint memory mappings and
registers. The dragonfly implementation also keeps track of the sbrk
value and open file handles which you will need to handle separately.
Restoring the mappings and register state should be straightforward.
I'm not sure at how
How about Dell models which come with Ubuntu preinstalled? (Inspiron
1525N and 1420N, XPS M1330). Don't they have higher chances of running
FreeBSD smoothly? A quick glance over the hardware notes of 7.0-RELEASE
and some googling around show that wireless, video and audio are supported.
//rk
Zaphod Beeblebrox a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Razmig K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
How about Dell models which come with Ubuntu preinstalled? (Inspiron
1525N and 1420N, XPS M1330). Don't they have higher chances of
running
Hi all,
Having "googled" for my problem, the only thread I
can find is this one which doesn't appear to have a
solution:-
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2005-April/011579.html
I recently got two Dell Poweredge servers. A 1425 and
a 2850. I installed 6.0-RELEASE onto both. W
Anyone successfully get this to work in a working environment, not just
install?
I'm wondering if I'm beating a dead horse by my continued [unsuccessful]
efforts to get this to work.
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Hello, everyone!
As far as I understand drivers for USB devices are selected and attached
based on USB VendorID and ProductID match. Here I have situation where
I have 2 diffrent USB devices (cables) which got same Vendor and Device
IDs, only revision differes.
It is mobile phone cables based on
Hello!
Bernd Walter wrote:
> uplcom takes devices (or maybe interfaces) based on vendor/product ID.
>
> > What approach will you recommend?
>
> What is your problem?
2 different USB devices with same vendor/product ID, only revision differes.
They both will be handeled by uplcom, but initializa
Hello!
> Ah - so it's a matter of expanding our uplcom driver.
> I will check the linux driver and try to find out what the differences
> are.
> I asume you have test hardware?
Yes,
I can give you access to the machine with cable and phone
connected and GSM/GPRS accounts to try if driver will wo
Hello, everyone!
Recently I've got PCM-5820 single board computer with Geode GX1-300 CPU.
Mine is with 32M ram and 512M Compact Flash mapped to secondary IDE master.
I have tried numerous times to install FreeBSD on it, but it hangs right after
startup. I have tried 4.8, 5.2.1, and CURRENT, ever
Hello, freebsd-hackers.
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Any idea why when I insert a breakpoint I get a
SIGTRAP
and can't continue any further? Is this a bug in the
FreeBSD distribution's gdb? I don't see this behavior
on any other platform that I am using. (Linux/
Solaris/
OSF1)
I am only seeing on this particular application. The
binary is 60MB d
msg = sk_receive();
if((msg->type == SK_SIGNAL_MSG) &&
(msg->data.l == HARD_SIG_00010))
break;
} while (1);
sk_remove_poll_fd(slot);
}
beneath this it just uses poll
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Not to mention that SIGVTALRM is already used by
the thread library (although I would hope that
_thread_sys_sigaction is smart enough to handle
that case). I've stepped through the GDB
code on both 4.18 and 5.1. On 5.1 I found the
following in i386fbsd-nat.c:
void
child_resume (ptid_t ptid, int
Has anybody used AIO in conjunction with kevent?
I am seeing as much as a 12 second latency between
when I do an 8k aio_write to a file on local disk
and kevent returning its completion (I'm calling
kevent every ~20ms). Using regular writes works fine,
but this is a multi-threaded application so
It turns that this problem is specific to AIO in
-CURRENT. I wrote a simple program that uses
the three different completion mechanisms (polling
with aio_error, polling with kevent, and using SIGIO)
to fill up a file by writing 8kb at a time to the
file and then reading 8kb at a time from the fil
See my page now. It contains a pointer to a tarball
with what I believe to be the appropriate style
patches and a single unified diff. I'm obviously new
to this so humor me and let me know if there are any
further problems.
--- David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 1
Look at the posix shmem and sem functions:
shm_open
shm_unlink
sem_open, sem_close, sem_post etc.
--- Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a sysv semphore/shmem implementation using
> mmap available for FreeBSD? I need a userland
> based sysv
> sem/shm library to write a little project,
> > Would the person or person(s) interested in developing a kerneld-like, dynamic
> > module (un)loader for FreeBSD please email me. I am really interested in this.
> > It would be very advantageous to begin to move kld module use into the
> > mainstream for all components. I'd like to do what I
Wow. A couple of questions.
1. Is it really worth messing with code as old as crunchgen(1) at all?
Seriously. What's there isn't exactly "broken", and it seems like needlessly
walking into a vampire's crypt without so much as a stake or clove of garlic on
your person. Only something bad can
On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> I could imagine that we could stash away a vimage stack just for this purpose.
> yould set it up on boot and leave it detached until you need it.
>
> you just need to switch the interfaces over to the new stack on panic and put
> them into
fies that?
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On May 10, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Yipes. The name of the game is to get something working in the base
system, instead of dragging in multiple 3rd party packages, with
licensing schemes that may not be aligned with the BSD license.
SQL's great, SQL's wonderful for db use, b
Use fprintf(stderr, ...) instead, as stderr is unbuffered by default.
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Peter Jeremy wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:08:28AM -0800, Sanjeev Kumar.S wrote:
I have a quick question, and I believe this will
be a common requirement.
This is a standard C q
Hello everyone!
I'm one of the GSoC students. My name is Johannes Maximilian Kuehn and
my project is the reference implementation of the SNTP protocol.
I was exposed to FreeBSD about 6 years ago and I'm using it since
then as my primary operating system. Similar to Anders I started with
Linux an
> website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two
> weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at
> FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :)
I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in
green's web-cited messag
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>
> > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two
> > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at
> > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can
> FreeBSD can wait till unified-ipv6 is made available, since:
> - IPv6 is not that urgent task and
> - it will be messy if FreeBSD integrates KAME first,
> then switch to unified-ipv6.
Both of these remain true. I certainly see and unders
> I just wish that it was the other way around. I'd actually run
> NT if I could get it in a VMWare compartment under FreeBSD.
You would do well to pass these sentiments on to vmware; they're
currently counting noses in FreeBSD-land to see if it makes
market sense. All the techs there appear to
> the parts that they need. However right after 3.2-R came out there was a
> flurry of -questions mail about broken pkg dependencies because sysinstall
> wasn't properly registering the X install. If the port depending on the
Just to clear up a misconception; this isn't actually a sysinstall
probl
> But we can install from a single downloaded boot floppy, over the
> Internet, which is better.
1. Irrelevant, since most people who want to try BSD/OS out probably
aren't concerned about how FreeBSD installs itself; they're
simply different products.
2. Incorrect, since we don't install o
> * it's part of the dependancy chain now for a lot of packages,
>
> You are entitled to you opinion, but please don't misrepresent the
> facts. They are not part of the dependency chain for any *packages*.
Sorry if the english I used was ambiguous - I should have said "to
install packages usi
We got off onto a big tangent about switches and vlans and stuff and I
learned a number of interesting things, don't get me wrong, but we
still haven't established any consensus on the trade-offs of enabling
bpf. This wasn't meant to be a hypothetical discussion, I'm truly
trying to measure the tr
> It will let us use a dhcp client in the install programs, this is of
> tremendous use to many people as DHCP starts to become much more
> popular. I cannot net install a machine at home since that is on a
> DHCP cable modem service.
Well, just to clarify this, if you're installing a 4.0 snapsho
> There's no good reason to not have bpf in at least the boot disk kernel.
It already is. That's not the question under discussion here - we're
talking about how to make things work in the post-installation boot
scenario.
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> I thought we decided that the networking gurus we're going to make it
> possible to send out broadcast packets on an unconfigured interface so
> that DHCP would work, so that bpf wasn't required.
I believe we decided that this would be the preferred method, yes. I
don't think, however, that we
> There are no security levels > 3. I'd be happy with > 0. This is
> consistant with the meaning of "raw devices".
Would you be willing to make this change?
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http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html
A story on upcoming plans for the Linux 2.4 kernel. Since they're
going after a lot of the same performance goals we are, it's worth a
read.
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> I am pro.
>
> It takes a root compromise to use it anyway, and its usefulness
> for DHCP and rarpd is too compelling.
>
> Perhaps the comments in the GENERIC file could be updated.
Well, given that I've gotten primarily positive support for this I
guess it's time to do it. Warner, do you want
> Mm-hmm. ld -Bshareable as opposed to ar rc.
This demonstrates a superficial understanding of the process, nothing
more.
> I just think we're not seeing eye to eye.
I'd be more inclined to say that John simply understands this where
you don't. Go study up, then come back and engage the poor gu
> I have a parallel port Iomega Zip Drive. I have installed 3.2-RELEASE and
> although the vpo0 is detected it does not see da0, and when I try "mount -t
I'm not surprised, since da0 would be a SCSI device.
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Sorry, I wasn't aware that the parallel port SCSI stuff had been
CAM'd yet.
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> In message <11366.934157...@localhost> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
> : > I have a parallel port Iomega Zip Drive. I have installed 3.2-RELEASE an
d
> : > although the
The use of /stand/sysinstall to do a live upgrade has always been
discouraged, though it's not outright disallowed since I believe in
every man's right to blow his feet off if he really wants to.
Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is
encouraged to boot the desired OS release
> So Solaris does the right thing by understanding underscore I guess.
> Since it is not forbidden to use it in hostnames.
It does not do the right thing and it is indeed forbidden. :)
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It was given about a year ago and is now out of date. XiG promised
to update their web site, but evidently this just hasn't happened
yet.
- Jordan
> on Xinside site (www.xig.com) it says...
>
> FreeBSD 3.x is not yet supported on the advice of some members of the FreeBSD
> core team.
>
> Why w
> On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:28:20 -0400
> Dennis wrote:
>
> > I heard a rumor that freebsd runs on a sparc, but I dont see any backing
> > for that. Is it in the works?
>
> FreeBSD does not run on the SPARC. I think they've been talking about it
> for ... what, 5 years now... but it never mate
> (I believe it got bounced due to my mistake in To: line.
> sorry if you got it multiple times)
>
> Hello, if this mailing list is inappropriate please tell me so.
>
> I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon reservation with
> special discount, to get the followi
Heh, I didn't prod him *personally* - we're not quite in the same
social circles as that (yet ;).
- Jordan
> "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
> >
> > I
> > prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
> > responded...
>
> That&
> marder-1:/usr/marko{57}% ./a.out
> short == 2
> int == 4
> long == 4
> long long == 8
> marder-1:/usr/marko{57}%
But on the Alpha:
j...@beast-> ./foo
short == 2
int == 4
long == 8
long long == 8
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> Does it make sense to make src/crypto/sys for kernel code?
> (for IPsec we need crypto code *in kernel*).
I'd say it makes a lot of sense.
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se. :)
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> In message <10335.936082...@localhost>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
> >>Does it make sense to make src/crypto/sys for kernel code?
> >>(for IPsec we need crypto code *in kernel*).
> >
> >I'd say it makes a lot of sense
> In message <28661.936093...@critter.freebsd.dk> Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
> : >Hmph. I guess common sense wins over ITAR in this case. :)
> :
> : That's certainly an improvement in that particular battle :-)
>
> Speaking of ITAR, has anybody actually every approached FreeBSD to say
> what we'r
> Where sun are involved, I wouldn't get your hopes up until you actually
> see source or something. And I wouldn't exactly call them quick,
> either.
This is wise counsel.
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> CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU)
> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12
> Features=0x1bf
>
> Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware
> someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines
> out there.
Indeed. In fact, if someon
> Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should
> have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux.
1. Unconstructive (losers?)
2. Irrelevant (what gets done for Linux by XFree86 et all gets to FreeBSD
pretty quickly)
3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :).
- Jor
It can go in after the freeze - it's a bit late to be asking now. :)
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Dan Nelson wrote:
>
> > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/bin/dd/dd.c,v
> >
> > revision 1.17
> > date: 1999/06/19 19:49:32; author: green; state: Exp; lines: +25 -21
I think that this script might also fill a void with using Puppet as a
configuration tool. Currently Puppet, as its default behaviour, uses
files in /etc/rc.conf.d to set variables. I've found this approach
really lacking because you cannot do things like:
nfs_server_enable="YES"
via a /etc/rc.
Warren> Consider also the docs that tell the user to
Warren>echo 'something_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
Warren> which can produce duplicate and possibly differing entries.
Yup! Which is exactly why I like the idea of this tool.
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> After a week of struggle, I am pleased very much to announce
> that Luigi's sound driver now has a midi interface and a sequencer!
Excellent! I'm very happy to hear this. Any idea when you guys will
be able to support the on-board MIDI interfaces featured on many sound
cards? Once that day co
> This is getting out of hand. It's pretty clear none of us understand
> what's up behind the scenes on this, because I'd swear the thing could
> have been written from scratch in less time than this port is going to
> take.
I can't really give you specifics, but let's just say that we're
curre
> Fair enough. Can you throw us some kind of a bone as to why the delivery
> date keeps leaping ahead, a year at a time? When I put my deposit down,
> it was due in November of 1998. A cursory search through mail shows a
Deposit? Didn't you simply register your card with us for billing
when it
As most of you attending USENIX (http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix99)
this year in Monterey, CA already know, the "terminal room", a cluster
of 40 networked PCs for public use, will be running FreeBSD this year.
A total of 12 volunteers is needed to staff this terminal room and
I think about 7 o
> Jordan, what do you think ?
I don't think it's worth it for just xanim. Give me more incentive
than this. :)
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> I now have the driver for OPL3 ready to go!
Great news!
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> I have a fresh installation of FreeBSD 3.2 on my
> laptop.
What happens if you select the 2.2 compat dist during installation?
- Jordan
>
> I tried to install netscape 4.08 from both
> ports and then as a package.
>
> Both times, I get the following error
>
> Couldn't load /usr/libexec/ld.s
> I installed it both during installation and then
> again via /stand/sysinstall just to make sure.
>
> Still no luck.
Hmmm. So much for that idea. :) Oddness..
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> It breaks because compat22 is installing _everything_ in
> /usr/lib/compat/aout. We've reproduced this locally - compat22 is
> hosed.
Hmmm. Good thing I took that out of the default list of installation targets
then. :)
I tend to think that the compat22 distro simply aged and died but nobod
1> Could it be possible to unite these ones in /src/sys/boot/i386/mbr/ ?
It could be possible, yes. :)
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> What make OpenBSD so "secure" ? Or can this kind of security be
> reproduced with FreeBSD ports ? I think of tools like:
It's not the tools but the amount of time supposedly invested in
improving security. I say "supposedly" because a lot of the buffer
overflow issues they've dealt with haven't
> I'm not sure..I've been wandering through the openbsd source tree and merging
> useful diffs from binaries, but I haven't been too organised about it so far,
> and haven't encountered much in the way of "important" fixes. I'm sure there
> are some, though.
While it can rightfully be said that Op
> Since doing so would allow someone to build what was on the 3.2-RELEASE
> CDROM, maybe we should ask Jordan if the tag shouldn't be slid forward
> for src/lib/compat/compat22/Makefile.
Sorry, the release is already out and I don't slide a fixed reference
tag after its reference point has indelib
Anyone here going to USENIX who'd also like to trade a free
registration in exchange for playing "scribe" for the FREENIX track at
the USENIX technical conference this year? http://www.usenix.org for
details.
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t;
>
> On Wed, 26 May 1999, Larry Lile wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Larry Lile wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I don't mind waiting until after the freeze/release, I just wan
... for a quick promo tour and would be more than happy to meet people
while I'm there.
So far, I have the evening of 5/31 free for whatever (group dinner?)
and I'll be speaking at the Japan Unix Society meeting on 6/1 from
18:30 - 20:30, after which we'll be having a small dinner party until
arou
> wonderful! You know, I should use that myself! "Hey Bill: my network
> crashed." "Well, there's probably something you could do to fix that
> but I don't know the details." Yes! I like it! Instead of trying to help
> people, I'll be maddeningly vague! I'll pretend to be helpful but stop
You hav
Perhaps we can cut through all the finger pointing and counter-finger
pointing here and just move on to the chase by asking one simple
question: Will you be at USENIX? That would be an excellent
opportunity to discuss it in person, where emotion and
facial-expression stripping isn't such a huge pr
Excellent. Let's assume then that all the core folk who are there,
plus any committers who have an interest in the issue (since core has
to listen to its developers' opinions too or we can no longer honestly
claim to represent their interests), will be getting together during
the week to discuss t
> I'm sure that the fact that -release ended up with such obvious
> instabilities was out of your control (IMHO RELENG_3 shouldn't have
> been dubbed -stable 'till 3.2 was tagged), but I'd bet that this did
Just a side comment on this - there was tremendous flammage that the
RELENG_3 branch was
> I'm not saying he should have backed out his changes, I'm saying that
> they shouldn't have been made - that's why removing the commit bit
> was the right move.
Let me just explain something here which I think may either make Matt
happier or less so, depending on his priorities. :)
Matt's com
> It isn't something as simple as not putting bpf into the install kernel is
> it?
I'm afraid not. :) The symptom was that dhcp started up just fine, it
just refused every lease offered by the server. Debugging stuff on
the boot floppy is also kinda hard and the deadline was coming up
so I had t
Not to pick on Brian, but can we end this pathetic and sorry thread
already? Everybody: Just play nice with your little brother and
stop poking him in the back seat - we'll get to where we're going
soon and then everybody can have a milkshake if they've been good.
Thank you.
- Jordan
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> Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is meant by a "variant link", and
> what might one be used for?
Gee, it's refreshing to see someone other than myself bringing this
subject up. :)
Variant symlinks, which many of us fell in love with back in our Apollo
days, are essentially just symlinks w
> And have /usr/bin point to /binaries/i386/bin or /binaries/mips/bin
And before people jump on me, let me just clarify in advance that I
was not meaning to imply that Apollo ever used the x86 architecture.
They didn't. It was just an example. :)
- Jordan
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> For the benefit of those of us who weren't at USENIX, can we please
> have a summary of what was discussed/decided?
Nothing was [deliberately] decided but much was discussed. As soon as
one of us lands back home in some reasonable state, a summary will be
posted. I've yet to do this myself and
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