Re: portability sanity check

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 08:53:57AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > The standard requires that (void *) &foo == (void *) &foo->s : : Thanks, that is what I was trying to track down but couldn't find

Re: portability sanity check

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : Likewise if the first member were a more complex data type, but : nevertheless the same between the different structures. : : It seems safe to me, but I can't explain why :-) It is obfuscated 'C', but it is safe. The standard require

Re: Compaq e500, 3com cardbus card help

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:32:13AM -0500, Justin McKnight wrote: : > I cant figure out to get freebsd 4.2 to recognize : > and enable my 3com cardbus card? : : FreeBSD currently doesn't support cardbus cards. FreeBSD -stable doesn't sup

Re: Setting memory allocators for library functions.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Seebach writes: : In message <9631.983048712@critter>, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : >No it is not and it never was. : : The C committee believes it is. I do not believe you. Such a "believe" does not appear to be embodied in the C-99 standard. The standard (

Re: Setting memory allocators for library functions.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Seebach writes: : >I searched through the standard extensively to see if "allocates : >space" is defined and couldn't find anything other than 'the poitner : >can be used to access the space allocated.' : : EXACTLY! : : If it can't actually be used, then some

Re: Setting memory allocators for library functions.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Seebach writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : >OTOH, the *only* way to get non-overcommit to FreeBSD is for someone who : >*wants* that feature to sit down and code it. It won't happen otherwise. : : So, out of idle curiousity:

Re: Missing support in FreeBSD for large file sizes?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : What I can't understand is the reference to missing support for large : file sizes - as far as I know, that's one of FreeBSD's strengths! Anybody : care to guess what they mean here? It is crap. FreeBSD's API supports up to 2^63 byte fil

Re: context or unified diffs in PRs?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Lucas writes: : Is the Handbook correct, or are unified diffs preferred? I'll be : happy to fix my article and submit a PR to correct the Handbook if : this is the case. diff -c or diff -u is 1000% better than palin diff. That's what is ment by "context" i

Re: if_fxp - the real point

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jonathan Lemon writes: : You can't find the answers to any of these in the datasheets. The : datasheets may provide a tiny bit of information, and hint at how things : actually operate, but there is not sufficient information to develop a : driver from them. Their

Re: Patch to fix panic when detaching a mounted md device

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dima Dorfman writes: : Right now, if you try to detach an md device that's currently mounted, : you will get a panic (maybe not immedietely, but it will come, esp. if : you ever try to use that mountpoint again). I'm pretty sure this is a : known problem, with the s

Re: Patch to fix panic when detaching a mounted md device

In message <5663.984480931@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dima Dorfman write : s: : >Hello -hackers : > : >Right now, if you try to detach an md device that's currently mounted, : >you will get a panic (maybe not immedietely, but it will come, esp. : : This

Re: Patch to fix panic when detaching a mounted md device

In message <8773.984501263@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : >We should then fix the rest of the system to deal with disks that : >disappear without notice. : : That was the point yes :-) Cool. When this happens, the forgetful ata flash ejectors of the world will be happy :-) Warner To Uns

Re: Patch to fix panic when detaching a mounted md device

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Soren Schmidt writes: : This all needed the patch to subr_disk.c that I made earlier today, : but now we can actually do it, however some of the cleanup action : should be done by the higher levels and not by the device driver... Most of the crashes I've seen are in

Re: Patch to fix panic when detaching a mounted md device

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Soren Schmidt writes: : It seems Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Soren Schmidt writes: : > : This all needed the patch to subr_disk.c that I made earlier today, : > : but now we can actually do it, however some

Re: The "right" way to build a new world WAS: 4.3-BETA world crashin g 4.2-RELEASE kernel ?

In message <8D18712B2604D411A6BB009027F6449801B4B544@0SEA01EXSRV1> "Matt Simerson" writes: : I have found that there IS a variety of reasons NOT to do it that way. The : most obvious is that you might not have console access, thus making it : pretty hard to access the machine while it's in single

Re: The "right" way to build a new world WAS: 4.3-BETA world crashin g 4.2-RELEASE kernel ?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Watson writes: : On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Warner Losh wrote: : : > You'll also get better milage out of make -j N (say 3 or 4) and doing : > things sequentially. It is safer and runs just as fast. : : Dunno if it was a temporary compile

Re: Patch to disallow the build of modules

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maxime Henrion writes: : Here is a patch to select the modules you want and don't want. : The patch is for /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile from RELENG_4. My patch is even simpler: Index: Makefile === RCS

Re: Patch to disallow the build of modules

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Pentchev writes: : See -arch for a detailed discussion :) Right. I just did. I still think mine is *MUCH* simpler and easier to deal with. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc W writes: : Excellent, I will look for that. However, in the meantime, on : older systems (3.x, 4.x, etc ...), is the below assertion correct? I ran mail over NFS for a while, as well as using a mail program that didn't do locking to sort my mail. In both

Re: rtl8139 driver.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Luigi Rizzo writes: : [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] : > I currently have a Sharp pc ax20 laptop with an inbuilt rtl8139 nic. It works : : i have an AX10, similar design i suppose, and it works fast and fine for me : at 10megs. Are you sure

Re: meta-level compilation: building FreeBSD under Linux, hints??

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Pedro F. Giffuni" writes: : They don't have FreeBSD boxes. I understand the tool will eventually : be available but the authors don't want to be bothered about it right : now. I think they may have had problems using openbsd's config on the FreeBSD kernel. Warner

Re: gcc 2.95.3 and STL

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arjan Knepper writes: : Could anyone make recommandations on the STL to use with C++. I'm using : the build in gcc 2.95.2 on -stable and build in gcc 2.95.3 on -current. : : What is preffered the build-in STL (/usr/include/g++) or STLport? We use the builtin stl an

Re: accessing ide

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ceri Storey writes: : but these two command lines give me different results, eg: : cds220# head -c 32 /dev/ad0c | hd : so they are not equivalent? ad0 is the whole device. ad0c is the whole slice. These can be the same, but are often different. /dev/ad0 is the ri

Re: Security problems with access(2)?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill Moran writes: : I'm a little confused here, if access() is such a serious security : problem that it should _never_ be used, do we now have a major problem : with a large amount of software in the base system? Access(2) can be raced. If you say access("fred")

Re: Security problems with access(2)?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rick Bradley writes: : If the program is running with more privileges than the user this : is a truck-sized hole (or at least SUV-sized). Wouldn't that be SUSV2-sized hole? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in

Re: Security problems with access(2)?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul Herman writes: : Shouldn't the stat(2) manpage then also carry the same warning that : access(2) has (apparently dating back to 4.4BSD-Lite)? ...or maybe : even a suggestion to use fstat(2) instead... No. stat can be used safely. In fact, it can even be use

Re: Security problems with access(2)?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Malone writes: : Don't you need fstat to do this? (In which case you may as well just : open the file and fstat it anyway). There are times when you are traversing the tree that you need to stat before and after you open. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: Security problems with access(2)?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 10:55:23AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: : > Many years ago I implemented a new interface that I called : > eaccess() which replicated the work of access, but tested : > against the effective uid and gid. I'd like to see

Re: Adding a new drive

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Hesford writes: : Hrm... I'm sorry then. I have no idea why the Handbook asks you to zero : out the device, it consumes a lot of time and really isn't necessary. I : wonder if that could be the source of your problem. The handbook should say that only the fir

Re: Adding a new drive

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Hesford writes: : On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:26:30PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Hesford writes: : > : Hrm... I'm sorry then. I have no idea why the Handbook asks you to zero : > : out the de

Re: Adding a new drive

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Luigi Rizzo writes: : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Hesford writes: : > : Hrm... I'm sorry then. I have no idea why the Handbook asks you to zero : > : out the device, it consumes a lot of time and really isn't necessary. I : > : wonder if that could be the

Re: PCMCIA-PCI bridge cards

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Brian W. Buchanan" writes: : Do PCI PCMCIA adapters work in 4.3? No. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: PCMCIA-PCI bridge cards

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Warner Losh writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Brian :W. Buchanan" writes: : : Do PCI PCMCIA adapters work in 4.3? : : No. I should amplify a little here. The pci cards that plug into a desktop route interrupts over the pci bus.

Re: Idea about modules build

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" writes: : May be it need to create some makefile variable like KERNEL_MODULES, : that can be defined in /etc/make.conf to limit list of modules : to build/install, it is not very good idea to spend a lot of : CPU time building modules, t

Re: Idea about modules build

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:51:20AM +0400, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: : > I have idea about modules build/install process: : : Warner (imp) was to commit this fuctionality to 5-current (and back port : to releng_4 after 4.3-RELEASE).

Re: Idea about modules build

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Coleman Kane writes: : It would also be nice to be able to update third-party modules (like those = : in : ports, x11, etc...) after a kernel recompile. Perhaps some way of setting t= : hese : up into /usr/local? I do this all the time at work with 4.2-BETA. But yo

Re: [OT] parallel port for IO?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Miller writes: : Anyone know of a way to get a low cost port of some kind to to simple : state change detection? The specific purpose is to time external events : which are triggered by breaking an LED light beam. Millisecond resolution : would be fine. : :

Re: [OT] parallel port for IO?

In message <60546.987709317@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : Use the pps driver and you get microsecond jitter with nanosecond : resolution. While I usually see microsecond jitter, I have seen it as high as a few milliseconds when the interrupt load on the machine was high and the cpu was slo

Re: [OT] parallel port for IO?

In message <60866.987710568@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : The BIOS misuse of SMM mode can give you jitter in the 1msec range : and there is not much you can do about it. I found out when I : clocked a motherboard with a 14.318 derived from a Rb, and timed : 1Hz pulses derived from a Cs.

Re: [OT] parallel port for IO?

In message <66167.987742147@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : Then the disk is probably running in PIO mode which thrashes your : interrrupts. That's likely right. This was a real low end machine, designed to be smalffl and cheap. : >The pentium systems were much better about this. : : Prob

Re: PCI -> PCMCIA Bridge Adapter

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lists Account writes: : I just was wondering if anyone out there knew of any drivers that support : the pccard PCI -> PCMCIA bridge adapter, also made by pccard (see : www.pccard.co.uk), similar to the ISA -> PCMICIA bridge adapter that is : currently supported unde

Re: PCI -> PCMCIA Bridge Adapter

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Pentchev writes: : I think there was talk on -mobile about this recently, with someone : (I can't remember who, but Warner Losch comes to mind) saying that : this cannot be done in 4.x-stable at the moment, and it shall not : be done in 4.x-stable ever. It's s

Re: Orinoco MiniPCI

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brandon Fosdick writes: : A search of the archives revealed that PCI adapters for orinoco cards : don't work yet. So I guess there's no hope of getting the MiniPCI card : working either? Nope. : Does it work in -current? Nope. I'm working on it. Warner To Unsub

Re: automated checking of Security Advisories

In message Rich Morin writes: : I am quite willing to write a first cut at the client code, but I : think I need to get some buy-in from the folks who are generating : the advisories. Specifically, I need version characterization data : in a form which ca

Re: PCI -> PCMCIA Bridge Adapter

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lists Account writes: : Just to say, I seem to have fbsd recognizing my pci cardbus bridge in : 4.3-RELEASE however, it doesnt pick up the orinoco card plugged into : there, is this because of bugs mentioned on the list so far or is this for : another reason? The 4

Re: ISA_PNP_PROBE

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : > Just wondered, is there an equivelant function to ISA_PNP_PROBE that works : > with PCI (for example PCI_PNP_PROBE), anyone know? : : There isn't one. Go look at a PCI driver to see why. Actually, I think he's asking for a convenience functi

Re: More PCI->PCMCIA bridge stuff

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lists Account writes: : Any suggestions? Be patient. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: More PCI->PCMCIA bridge stuff

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Pentchev writes: : Yes, I had the same problem with my PCMCIA->PCI bridge. I solved it with : the following patch, which adds a new option to pccardd: -S maxslot. : Then, add -S 1 to pccardd_flags in your /etc/rc.conf, and you're all set. On current, without

Re: Port-related C++ question

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jos Backus writes: : dbtool.h:99: declaration of `__sF' as array of references : void stdin(const Config& config); <-=== line 99 stdin is #defined to be __sF[0]. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the bo

Re: Port-related C++ question

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Seebach writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jos Backus writes: : >Yeah, I am just puzzled as to how this can build at all on other platforms : >(Linux?), unless they don't define this variable. : : Many of them probably have it as an external object, not

Re: cdr and cdrw with 4.3 release

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Ambrisko writes: : Any generic PCMCIA IDE based thing should work. I might stop using an Other than flash, I have 5 different PCMCIA IDE based things, and they all work. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hacker

Re: NMI during procfs mem reads (#2)

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Day writes: : I tried sending this from my work account, but our new exchange server isn't : exactly sending mail correctly... Excuse the duplicate post if you see it. : :) It sounds like the PCI card that you are trying to read from is generating the pci faul

Re: NMI during procfs mem reads (#2)

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Day writes: : The PCI target itself isn't doing anything like that, but it's possible that : the PCI-PCI bridge we're going through might be. In any case, getting the : NMI isn't really all that bad, it's stopping the chipset from getting hung : on a infinite r

Re: Question about building source

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David Mr. Hackers O'Brien" writes: : I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base : compilers. Peroid. People didn't want to accept that, but you are : giving more proof of it. If you want to change the assumptions of about : the base sys

Should I worryy?

I have a cdrom that defies logic: 1:14am harmony:/cdrom[51]> df /cdrom Filesystem 1024-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/acd0a 54 540 100%/cdrom 1:14am harmony:/cdrom[52]> du /cdrom 325460 /cdrom/chujiten/data 146 /cdrom/chujiten/gaiji 325608

Re: md disks more than one from a kldload?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Gallatin writes: : If anybody else feels like testing this, please do so. Is there : some interest an MFC? If this fixes the problem where sometimes the system would hang when writing to MFS, there'd be a large interest. However, there'd be little interest

Re: Should I worryy?

In message Garance A Drosihn writes: : Well, the most suspect directory is /cdrom/chujiten/data : : What is in that directory? Might it be some large database-type : file(s) which have large holes in it(them)? Japanese/English dictionary. Yes, it really i

Re: md disks more than one from a kldload?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Josef Karthauser writes: : I was thinking about doing this, but several people have objected to : an MFC on the basis that lots of people already use md on -stable, and : the new md is a slightly different animal. My objection is based on the notion of removing MFS

Re: Should I worryy?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug White writes: : Two things mainly cause du-vs-df sizing problems: : . hardlinks : . sparse files No. DU uses the actual number of blocks in file. Hardlinks aren't an issue here because I did a df on the mountpoint. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAI

Re: sysctl to disable reboot

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jon Parise writes: : I thought it would be useful to have a sysctl for disabling the : keyboard reboot sequence. This functionality is currently : available through the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT config option, but it's : convenient to have this capability available at runti

Re: sysctl to disable reboot

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jon Parise writes: : In addition, I prefer my approach here because it's a single, : known toggle that doesn't involve messing with other parts of the : system. I might just want to disable keyboard rebooting : temporarily. This seems like the most intuitive way to

Re: technical comparison

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jason Andresen writes: : If only FreeBSD could boot from those funky M-Systems flash disks. We boot FreeBSD off of M-Systems flash disks all the time. Don't know what the problem is with your boxes. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "uns

Re: Device driver questions

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alexander Langer writes: : Thus spake SJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): : : Hi! : : > 1. "ioconf.c" contains struct config_resource and : > config_device definitions for declarations in : > "config" file. But I noticed that for some devices : > e.g. device

Re: removing inb()/outb() from devices

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : I'd like to finalize the newbus work by changing inb()/outb() calls to : bus_space_write calls. Is there a device where this has been partially done : already? I'd like to see the old and new styles, then i would fix the : vpo/imm zip driver f

Re: Device driver questions

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SJ writes: : But still the name "private" confuses me...according : to : me it should have been "bus_public.c". Any comments? Yes. You aren't allowed to use anything that's inside of bus_private.h in your driver. That's why it is called private. Only certain part

Re: softc with resource sharing

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : Any devices using the ppbus will end up sharing the hardware port. If i want : to access this resource info, should i store it in my local driver's softc : structure, or extract it from the parent device (ppbus)? There should be a method for g

Re: softc with resource sharing

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : Well, all of the resources have already been allocated when the ppc device : has been attached. The hardware port and interrupt have already been : reserved and stored in the softc data structure for ppc. All devices : attached to ppc, like pp

Re: removing inb()/outb() from devices

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : In the probe routines, the values of the hardware ports are changing from : one chipset to the next. Throughout the ppc driver, the regular macros are : used to access the parallel port control registers, but in the probe routine : it reverts t

Re: removing inb()/outb() from devices

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : I will newbussify all macros, and any inb/outb calls i find that are not : inside a probe function. : : How is that? Ummm, including inb/outb that are in the probe would be better. This would allow us to write a pcmcia attachment to the ppc

Host dependency in sysinstall

buildworld uses the boot blocks installed on the system to build sysinstall, rather than the ones that are build tree. .if ${MACHINE} == "i386" file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0 >> makedevs.tmp echo "size_t boot0_size = sizeof(boot0);" >> makedevs.tmp file2c

Re: MFC'ing new md(4) functionality?

In message <70325.991758797@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David O'Brien" writes: : >On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 07:46:18PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: : >> Is there any reason not to MFC the new md(4) functionality : > : >Zero reason not to. : : Others see it di

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : The newbus routines use a certain amount of overhead, but once done, you : forget about it. In some device drivers, the probe methods often need to : try a variety of hardware ports. In the past, inb/outb was used, along with : an often hardco

Re: Resource reservation idea

In message Nick Hibma writes: : > > - Some dummy driver which grabs the resource. The dummy driver would : > >need to be unloaded when the actual driver needs the resources. : > : > This sounds attractive, but it's hard to find the dum

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : How would you recommending fixing this, taken from the ex driver? By deleting it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : | You manually set the correct I/O port in the hints file and then you : : Sorry if i misunderstand, but isn't the hints file only for -current? I was : under the impression it was only to simplify driver development. Hints will be in -stable

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Warner Losh writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : : How would you recommending fixing this, taken from the ex driver? : : By deleting it. Let me expand a little. The reason I advocate deleting it is because there are too many

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : Except that the 'ex' driver uses a non-destructive probe. I just know that I've had some hardware start working by deleting ex from the kernel. I'll see if I was wise enough to document said hardware... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mai

Re: MFC'ing new md(4) functionality?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : Actually, I do recall discussion over 'wd' being end-of-lifed in 4.x. I : suspect that it would make sense to EOL 'mfs' in a similar fashion. I : don't think there's a lot of good sense in pulling it out at an arbitrary : point, though, any

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> j mckitrick writes: : Okay, there is something i'm not understanding here. In the ed driver, : there are many possible cards, which each have different i/o ports, correct? Not really. The ed driver is the most twisted driver in the tree when it comes to probe. :

Re: free() and const warnings

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: : Of course, this begs the question of why you are free'ing a const. :) Sometimes that's the only handle that you have on the object :-). I sometimes think that changing free to be const void * is the right answer, but that has its own set prob

Strange request: Reading RX-50 (aka DEC Rainbow 100) disks

I have the need to read a whole pile of DEC Rainbow 100 floppies. I can do it on the DEC Rainbow, but that's a huge pita since it isn't networked. I'd like to either connect a RX-50 drive to my machine, or use a 1.2M 5.25" floppy drive that I can scrounge easily enough to do the deed. 80 trac

Re: Strange request: Reading RX-50 (aka DEC Rainbow 100) disks

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Hittinger writes: : I'd actually recommend trying to use kermit to get the data out via the : serial port first :-) There is a rainbow kermit out there. Not an option. I have about 100 floppies to transfer. I know I could set this up, but 9600 baud is just t

Re: Strange request: Reading RX-50 (aka DEC Rainbow 100) disks

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> James Housley writes: : Mark Hittinger wrote: : > : > MSDOS world only and not CPM. I'd bet there are utilities on simtel20 that : > would read a CPM format floppy in 40 track format. I formatted them on the : : A quick search returned 10 matches with this one lo

Re: Strange request: Reading RX-50 (aka DEC Rainbow 100) disks

[[ Lots of details on how to do this deed, or at least the format of the Rainbow disk, follow. Hit 'n' or 'd' if you don't care ]] In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian Dowse writes: : The fdcontrol program allows most of the paramaters to be set to : match the disks, but unfortunately it cannot

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Rabson writes: : Actually, the ex driver does have an identify method. The issue is that : the identify method uses 'unallocated' ports to do its search. It ought to : allocate them, do its tests and release them for the real probe but it : gets messy due to th

Re: newbussifying drivers

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : > One big area we need to clean up is PNPBIOS devices. They should be : > probed *FIRST* before anything else (which is hard because the isa bus : > gets attached late on pci systems). : : This isn't actually such a problem; the space in which

Re: nsswitch dynamically loadable modules

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Wemm writes: : If you built the : entire system with NOSHARED=NO, then /bin/ls, /bin/sh etc will be dynamically : linked and the patches will probably work. However, you had better have : /usr on your root (/) file system or you wont be able to boot. Linux's

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Santcroos writes: : What is the difference between the present rc scheme and the NetBSD one? The NetBSD rc scheme, in a nutshell, put each thing into its own file and does order dependencies automatically. Ours is one big monolithic beast that kinda can do ext

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Santcroos writes: : Can it be called SysV style? Or not seperated in that way? : (I must say, the big ugly rc thing is the only thing I don't like about : FreeBSD, I'm very much in favor of the SysV style init. But thats another : war ;) It specifically isn't S

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton writes: : reason is that when you say "System V" anything, people have immediate : negative reactions that are based purely on emotion. S01My S02reactions S03to S04system S05V S06is S07not S08based S09purely S10on S11a S12pruely S13emotional S14reaction.

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt Dillon writes: : I kinda like our scheme... at least I like the single monolithic : /etc/rc.conf file. It makes maintaining and installing machines : utterly trivial whereas having a billion little files each with : one or two options in them m

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sergey Babkin writes: : Or a drawback. Encoding the order in the names makes changing : the order or disabling some files easy, without any neccessity to : edit the contents of the files. : : Though I haven't seen the NetBSD approach, maybe it actually is better.

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> void writes: : On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:56:45PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : > : > With the netbsd approach, you remove the file, and all things taht : > depend on it fail. as it should be :-) : : I'm pretty sure you turn it off in rc.conf,

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Hayes writes: : I agree completely. One of the points that should be kept in mind : (IMO) is that the SysV RC style dominates Linux...a fact I've used to : convince people that FreeBSD administration is easier, faster, : better...etc. But the NetBSD style is e

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Hesford writes: : New "modules"? Isn't that just the same as /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ ? I side : with Mr. Dillon, I hope things stay the way they are. No. It isn't. Our current /usr/local/etc/rc.d is a *SUBSET* of what the NetBSD system provides. Right now it

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt Dillon writes: : What I really hate is the SysV/Linux/Solaris style of rc.d configuration : directories where you create/maintain softlinks in specially named : directories (named after the run level) to a master set of : startup files. Blech.

Re: Patented algorithm in FreeBSD

In message <30671.992330850@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : Well, the application date is what counts, and that's mar1992, but I'm : pretty sure that Bill Jolitz had them beat to that date already... I'm pretty sure that VMS 3.x used a similar technique. I have my old VMS internals docs fro

Re: Patented algorithm in FreeBSD

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jordan Hubbard writes: : The patent system is broken and we need to focus our energies on : reforming it, not on trying to bend ourselves into impossible shapes : to conform to the damage it's done. Exactly. My thoughts are to hell with them. The patent sighted is

Re: Plan to import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: : I've contacted Luke Mewburn (the guy behind the new NetBSD rc system) : and he's keen to chat to FreeBSD-heads after his talk at USENIX (FREENIX : track). I can't make it, but I'd encourage interested parties from the : FreeBSD community to c

Re: import NetBSD rc system

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton writes: : > in fact, the require keyword isn't sufficient in it's own. there : > should be pre_require and post_require keywords since nfsd needs to : > start mountd before to start nfsd then rpc.statd and rpc.lockd have to : > be started after nfsd. : :

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