Re: libkvm: consumers of kvm_getprocs for non-live kernels?

2010-11-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/10/10 12:41 PM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi, I have this cleanup of libkvm sitting in my tree and it needs a little bit of testing, especially the function kvm_proclist, which is only called from kvm_deadprocs which is only called from kvm_getprocs when kd is not ALIVE. The only consumer in

Re: Managing userland data pointers in kqueue/kevent

2010-11-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/15/10 10:12 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:25:42AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: I think the assumption is that userland actually maintains a reference on the specified object (e.g. a file descriptor) and will know to drop the associated data when the file descriptor

Re: Managing userland data pointers in kqueue/kevent

2010-11-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/15/10 10:38 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:33:25AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: it was provided for pretty much what you are using it for, so that the userland caller could easily associate the returning event with some private information about the event. This

Re: Managing userland data pointers in kqueue/kevent

2010-11-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/15/10 12:14 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:37:23AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: I don't think it was thought of in the context of reference counted items. This problem has nothing to do with reference counting, and all to do with resource ownership. Con

Re: Unhappy with cross-worlding

2010-11-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/15/10 7:35 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:24 PM, wrote: So, I have Core 2 Duo, runing as i386. I decided to go for amd64 (it's name, is so deceiving, that I've just recently, accidentaly figured out, that it can be used, with intel CPUs, too) :P 8.1 cross build i386

Re: Greetings

2010-12-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/1/10 12:01 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: Hi Dheeraj, On 2010-Dec-01 04:19:46 +0530, dheeraj suthar wrote: Kindly do guide me(as I am new here.) and involve me in some programming project related to above mentioned fields. Also I am currently going through project lists on FreeBSD list and wil

Re: Driver memory allocation

2010-12-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/15/10 4:33 AM, Dr. Baud wrote: Is there a cap on the amount of memory a driver (via bus_dmamem_alloc) can allocate, other than the obvious physical memory limit minus the memory already allocated? well it has to fit into the kernel virtual space too. this is quite limited on x86 thou

Re: binding non local ip.

2011-01-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/7/11 4:57 AM, joris dedieu wrote: Hi, I need a to bind non local ips daemons that don't implement IP_BINDANY sockopt. I'm not sure you need it you can use the ipfw 'fwd' command to make a locally bound socket act and look as if it is bound to a non local address You need to tell us a lit

Re: Fwd: binding non local ip.

2011-01-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/9/11 3:01 PM, joris dedieu wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: joris dedieu Date: 2011/1/9 Subject: Re: binding non local ip. To: Julian Elischer 2011/1/7 Julian Elischer: On 1/7/11 4:57 AM, joris dedieu wrote: Hi, I need a to bind non local ips daemons that don&#

Re: A question about "WARNING: attempt to domain_add(xyz) after domainfinalize()"

2011-01-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/12/11 5:26 AM, Svatopluk Kraus wrote: Hi, I'd like to add a new network domain into kernel (and never remove it) from loadable module. In fact, I did it, but I got following warning from domain_add(): "WARNING: attempt to domain_add(xyz) after domainfinalize()". Now, I try to figure out wha

Re: empty function macros

2011-01-31 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/30/11 11:54 PM, Roman Divacky wrote: no problem with this with clang :) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 05:29:41PM +, Alexander Best wrote: hi there, i noticed freebsd has a few of the following macros: #define FUNC(sb) when you do something like if (cond) FUNC(i) you missed an impo

Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/10/11 11:22 PM, Da Rock wrote: "In recent versions of the Linux kernel (post-2.0 releases) a new protocol family has been introduced, named PF_PACKET. This family allows an application to send and receive packets dealing directly with the network card driver, thus avoiding the usual protoc

Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/11/11 1:36 AM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/11/11 18:17, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/10/11 11:22 PM, Da Rock wrote: "In recent versions of the Linux kernel (post-2.0 releases) a new protocol family has been introduced, named PF_PACKET. This family allows an application to send and re

Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/11/11 5:40 AM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/11/11 19:54, Vlad Galu wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Da Rock <mailto:freebsd-hack...@herveybayaustralia.com.au>> wrote: On 02/11/11 18:17, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/10/11 11:22 PM, Da Rock wrote: &

Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/11/11 4:08 PM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/12/11 02:48, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/11/11 5:40 AM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/11/11 19:54, Vlad Galu wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Da Rock <mailto:freebsd-hack...@herveybayaustralia.com.au>> wrote: On 02/11/11 18:17, Julian

Re: [maybe spam] Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/11/11 4:03 PM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/12/11 02:37, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/11/11 1:36 AM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/11/11 18:17, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/10/11 11:22 PM, Da Rock wrote: "In recent versions of the Linux kernel (post-2.0 releases) a new protocol family has been intro

Re: SO_SETFIB socket option

2011-02-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/12/11 8:40 AM, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Naveen Gujje wrote: Hi All, On my FreeBSD 7.2 box, I've two routing tables (FIBs). Fib 0 and Fib 1 (net.fibs = 2). I have a simple echo client which is the counterpart of an echo server running somewhere. If I run this echo client

Re: memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

2011-02-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/12/11 7:45 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Tim Kientzle wrote: The strategy used by libarchive's recent ISO writer is to concatenate the file bodies into a temp file (with minimal padding between entries to meet alignment requirements) while storing directory information in memory. The

Re: userland utilites for specific version use the current kernel API

2011-03-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/10/11 9:13 PM, Subbsd wrote: Hi. i have a server with FreeBSD-current (9) kernel and core system that runs a dozen JAIL-s - some of them is FreeBSD 8x environment , and part is surrounded on FreeBSD 7x. My question - despite on COMPAT_FREEBSD{4-7} in the kernel, utilities do not use those s

Re: About implementation of kqueues

2011-03-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/13/11 11:30 PM, shivanth wrote: Can somebody help me with the details of implementation of the kqueue and kevent Api's .I need to know about the internals , thoae related to knotes. the original paper is the best reference http://people.*freebsd*.org/~jlemon/papers/*kqueue*.pdf Thank

Re: [GSoc] Timeconter Performance Improvements

2011-03-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/25/11 1:24 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2011-Mar-24 17:00:02 +0800, Jing Huang wrote: In this scenario, I plan to use both tsc and shared memory to calculate precise time in user mode. The shared memory includes system_time, tsc_system_time and factor_tsc-system_time. This sounds l

Re: kgdb patches for newer versions of gdb

2011-03-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/24/11 8:46 AM, Ryan Stone wrote: At work we cross-compile several kld modules. They just upgraded to gcc 4.5, but gdb 6.X is not compatible with the debug symbols produced by gcc 4.5. Has anybody ever tried merging kgdb into a newer gdb version? Anybody have patches that they can share?

Re: [GSoc] Timeconter Performance Improvements

2011-03-27 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/27/11 3:32 PM, Warner Losh wrote: On Mar 26, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Jing Huang wrote: Hi, Thanks for you all sincerely. Under your guidance, I read the specification of TSC in Intel Manual and learned the hardware feature of TSC: Processor families increment the time-stamp counter differently

Re: Kernel Tracking Question.. regarding kernel and boot files

2011-04-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/9/11 2:51 PM, Chris Richardson wrote: On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi, Chris-- [ ...Reply-to: set to direct towards the most appropriate list... ] On Apr 9, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Chris Richardson wrote: I am totally new to FreeBSD. I was involved within project w

Re: Looking for resources to get started

2011-04-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/22/11 10:58 AM, Robert Lorentz wrote: Hi, I'm very interested in getting started with FreeBSD development. My interests are wide but specifically core OS, performance, scheduling, cryptography, perhaps filesystems etc. I have seen the "Ideas" list and there is some good stuff there but t

Re: [UPDATE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.3

2011-05-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/12/11 2:14 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Emanuel Haupt wrote: Devin Teske wrote: Hey all, Proud to bring you version 1.3 which completes the followup suggestions made by Olivier Smedts (use autoboot_delay instead of loader_menu_timeout and change dc_seconds to loade

Re: Freebsd And the sun x4440

2011-05-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/16/12 5:42 PM, Mark Saad wrote: All I am setting up 3 sun x4440 with freebsd 7.3 amd64 . The severs have 4x 4-core opterons and 128G of ram each . Once the servers boot they are a good fit for what we are doing and preform well . The odd thing I am seeing is a long delay in boot up . Onc

Re: OpenGrok for FreeBSD

2011-05-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/17/11 1:35 AM, Zafer Aydoğan wrote: 2011/5/13 Zafer Aydoğan: Zafer. Hmm... there seems to be very little interest so far. Although this tool is mainly useful for developers, what is the correct mailing list to announce it ? The service seems to be good but most people who are developers

Re: NFS mount inside jail fails

2011-05-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/17/11 1:17 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011 12:56:40 -0700 Sean Bruno wrote: Silly thing I ran into today. User wanted to NFS mount a dir inside a jail. After I groaned about the security implication of this, I noted that there is a sysctl that looks like it should allo

Re: who is in swap?

2011-05-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/20/11 5:32 AM, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Daniel Braniss: no, Who's on 3rd ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...

Re: who is in swap?

2011-05-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/20/11 2:57 PM, Sean C. Farley wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011, Julian Elischer wrote: On 5/20/11 5:32 AM, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Daniel Braniss: no, Who's on 3rd No. I Don't Know is on 3rd. Who's on 1st. I don't KNOW w

Re: Active slice, only for a next boot

2011-05-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/27/11 11:34 AM, Warner Losh wrote: On May 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Alexander Best To: rank1see...@gmail.com Cc: hack...@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:47:54 + Subject: Re: Active slice, only for a next boot On Fri M

Re: Active slice, only for a next boot

2011-05-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/28/11 6:06 AM, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote: And how about this: # boot0cfg -o noupdate -s 1 Now when you choose to hit slice 2, it is only for a this one boot. Next and each boot, defaults to slice 1 Problem is, that you must see, early bootstrap, to manually choose, so this won't work on

Re: Active slice, only for a next boot

2011-05-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/28/11 4:06 AM, Chris Rees wrote: On 28 May 2011 10:04, "Julian Elischer" <mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: > > On 5/27/11 11:34 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> On May 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, rank1see...@gmail.com <mailto:rank1see...@gmail.co

Re: Active slice, only for a next boot

2011-05-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/28/11 11:10 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 5/28/11 4:06 AM, Chris Rees wrote: On 28 May 2011 10:04, "Julian Elischer" <mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: > > On 5/27/11 11:34 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> On May 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, rank1see...@gma

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011

Re: Testing a change to printf(9)

2011-06-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 6/7/11 12:57 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: I've been working on fixing problems with printf(9), log(9) and related functions. Today I tried converting printf(9) to write to the log rather than directly to the console, unless the log is not open, in which case the message is also sent to the console.

Re: Testing a change to printf(9)

2011-06-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 6/7/11 6:33 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: I've been working on fixing problems with printf(9), log(9) and related functions. Today I tried converting printf(9) to write to the log rather than directly to the console, unless the log is not open, in which case the message is also sent to the console. Pr

Re: [PATCH] __FreeBSD_kernel__

2011-07-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/3/11 7:35 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: __linux__ is exactly what __FreeBSD__ is and dies not identify kernel but rather Linux as whole OS, whatever that might be these days. There does not appear to be an universal macro that identifies environment as using Linux kernel regardless of the res

Re: Jails: Setting different times in jails

2011-07-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/3/11 1:16 AM, grarpamp wrote: Would be nice to be able to set different times in different jails. All jails would tick in step with the system. But each jail could have it's birthtime set specifically via jail(8), jail(2), etc. Either by specification of a specific time, or an offset from th

Re: FIB separation

2011-07-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/16/11 9:19 AM, Alexander V. Chernikov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiroki Sato wrote: Vlad Galu wrote in: du> Hello, du> du> A couple of years ago, Stef Walter proposed a patch[1] that enforced du> the scope of routing messages. The general consesus was that

Re: FIB separation

2011-09-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/16/11 5:43 AM, Vlad Galu wrote: Hello, A couple of years ago, Stef Walter proposed a patch[1] that enforced the scope of routing messages. The general consesus was that the best approach would be the OpenBSD way - transporting the FIB number in the message and letting the user applicatio

Re: VMWare/Virtualbox virtio network drivers?

2011-09-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/6/11 8:03 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 7 September 2011 09:32, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Stephen Hocking wrote: Am wondering if anyone has done drivers the these sorts of network interfaces that are offered by VMWare& Virtual box. I know that on some Linux VM

Re: dtrace in FreeBSD 7.2

2011-09-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/16/11 1:30 PM, Charlie Martin wrote: I need to add some custom static dtrace probes in 7.2 apps; the online documentation refers only to 9 however. Can someone tell me how to replace what's done in bsd.dtrace.mk for 7.2? I' am not sure that user space dtrace suport was available in 7.2..

Re: dtrace in FreeBSD 7.2

2011-09-19 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/19/11 9:17 AM, Charlie Martin wrote: Dude, you say that like it was an option. It's understood about the realities of commercial decisions, however, if you really want to trace APPS that means user space dtrace and 7.2 just doesn't have the hooks to do non-kernel dtrace. As a side not

Re: Does anyone use nscd?

2011-10-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/4/11 9:51 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Trond Endrestøl writes: It's in daily use at Gjøvik Technical College (Fagskolen i Gjøvik), here in Norway. Both the mail and web servers authenticates our users by LDAP, and nscd certainly speeds up the lookups. OK. No trouble with clients dying

Re: Communication between kernel and userspace via local socket

2011-11-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/16/11 12:55 AM, Ed Schouten wrote: * Maxim Ignatenko, 2015 21:18: I'm currently inventing the wheel^W^W^Wwriting a firewall from scratch and looking for most convenient way to establish communication between userspace processes and kernel part. Communication pattern best fits to listen

Re: Communication between kernel and userspace via local socket

2011-11-19 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/17/11 11:40 AM, Maxim Ignatenko wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/16/11 12:55 AM, Ed Schouten wrote: * Maxim Ignatenko, 2015 21:18: I'm currently inventing the wheel^W^W^Wwriting a firewall from scratch and looking for most convenient way to establish communication be

Re: mmap implementation for cdev

2011-12-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/3/11 12:42 AM, Filippo Sironi wrote: Dear all, I've a strange problem I cannot understand... I implemented a piece of code within the FreeBSD 7.2 kernel that basically allocate a per-thread memory page to store a certain amount of information that must be read and written without crossin

Re: mmap implementation for cdev

2011-12-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/3/11 2:37 AM, Filippo Sironi wrote: I need to access the memory both from user space and kernel space, I cannot do that (simply) with an mmap or thread-specific storage if I recall correctly. that's how mmap works.. if you give it pages to expose to the user, you can still access them fro

Re: sysctl variable question

2011-12-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/18/11 12:18 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: Hi all, I'm writing a small module just for fun. I would like to have two variables: - "pid" of type unsigned int and RW so the user can set a pid - "process_name" as a string RD that will display the process name associated to that pid (or a mes

Re: Using symbolic execution for analyzing scheduler performance?

2011-12-30 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/30/11 9:52 AM, arrowdodger wrote: Hi. First, let me put a little disclaimer: I have absolutely no CS education and any degree in science, no idea on how OS kernels and CPU schedulers are implemented and working. Moreover, i haven't even know math at the level needed to talk about what i'm p

Re: Using symbolic execution for analyzing scheduler performance?

2011-12-31 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/30/11 11:34 PM, arrowdodger wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Julian Elischer <mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: On 12/30/11 9:52 AM, arrowdodger wrote: - OS kernel calls scheduler functions in some defined order. The OS doesn't really call the sch

Re: Processes' FIBs

2012-01-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/12/12 6:04 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 11. Jan 2012, at 15:06 , Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'm currently looking at the source code of ps, but adding > > a field for the FIB isn't as trivial as I thought because > > ps only sees struct kinfo_proc (via sys

Re: Hardware supported by ng_frame_relay?

2012-01-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/13/12 11:00 PM, Jan Mikkelsen wrote: Hi, I'm looking to upgrade a system running frame relay over a Sangoma A101 card and WANPIPE. Sangoma do not support FreeBSD anymore, so I'm looking for alternatives. What hardware does ng_frame_relay support now that ar(4) and sr(4) are not in FreeB

Re: Processes' FIBs

2012-01-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/13/12 4:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:44:51PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On 1/12/12 6:04 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 11. Jan 2012, at 15:06 , Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'm currently looking at the source code of

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/16/12 3:32 PM, William Bentley wrote: I also echo John's sentiments here. Very excellent points made here. Thank you for voicing your opinion. I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt this way. [...] We seem to have lost our way around the release of FreeBSD 7. I am all in fav

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/16/12 10:20 PM, John Kozubik wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Steven Hartland wrote: I was disappointed to see that 8.3-RELEASE is now slated to come out in March of 2012. This will be ~13 months since 8.2-RELEASE and is typical of a trend towards longer gaps between minor releases. ...

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/16/12 10:29 PM, Atom Smasher wrote: so i guess that means that i'm tougher than a typical laptop user... and instead of making things easier, freeBSD is getting harder. thing is, when people don't "play" with freeBSD on laptops and desktops, then they grow up, get real jobs, and don't k

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 10:08 AM, John Kozubik wrote: Hi Ivan, [...] Fair enough. Is it the case that if funds or manpower were made available, more releases would be workable ? Or are there some deeper cultural leanings toward having fewer minor releases ? sure if you or someone is willing to cu

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 7:39 AM, Mark Felder wrote: Why is everyone so afraid of running -STABLE? Plenty of stuff gets MFC'd. Yeah, I agree -- running -RELEASE is difficult. Hell, it's frustrating to us that VMWare only supports -RELEASE and it took until ESX 5 to officially support 8.2! More releases / s

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 9:36 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/17/12 4:39 PM, Mark Felder wrote: Why is everyone so afraid of running -STABLE? Plenty of stuff gets MFC'd. Yeah, I agree -- running -RELEASE is difficult. Hell, it's frustrating to us that VMWare only supports -RELEASE and it took until ESX 5 to

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 12:11 PM, Mark Saad wrote: Here are My 2 Cents , 1. Support each release longer, or develop a better way to MFS ( Merge from Stable ) bug fixes, and driver updates to RELEASE. It always seams that there are a number of things in X-STABLE I would love to have in X.3-RELEASE and X.4-REL

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 3:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 01:17 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/01/2012 23:46 Ian Lepore said the following: Now, before we're even really completely up and running on 8.2 at work, 9.0 hits the street, and developers have moved on to working in the 10.0 world.

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 2:41 PM, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 06:57:19PM + I heard the voice of Hugo Silva, and lo! it spake thus: Come to think about it, those days are pretty much gone since 4.x (incidentally, many of us who've stuck with FreeBSD for this long think of 4.x as an epi

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 3:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote: First, let's do away with the whole, "If you step up to help, your help will be accepted with open arms" myth. That's only true if the project leadership agrees with your goals. "leadership" doesn't really control development here. action does. We also nee

Re: * Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/17/12 7:12 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:05 PM, "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 06:49:02PM -0800 I heard the voice of Julian Elischer, and lo! it spake thus: 5 was not out on a limb for so long because it was a clusterfun, it was out there

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/18/12 3:32 AM, Robert Watson wrote: Another possibility is to get some combination of {The FreeBSD Foundation, iX Systems, ...} to trawl the bug report database in a more official capacity. The problem there is that this will be a high burn-out job. I'll bring it up at the next Foundati

Re: Rebooting/Halting system from kernel module

2012-01-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/22/12 2:19 AM, geoffrey levand wrote: Hi, how would i reboot/halt the system from a kernel module ? the answer is "that depends".. do you want to sync the disks first? of just hard reset? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://li

Re: kqueue and note_rename

2012-01-25 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/25/12 10:44 AM, Matthias Zitzen wrote: Hello list, does anybody have an idea, how to obtain the new name of a renamed file after the note_rename event is fired. I'm not very familiar with filesystem-operations. I checked the typical functions like stat or lstat, but these functions are w

Re: [PATCH] multiple instances of ipfw(4)

2012-01-30 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/30/12 4:01 AM, Ermal Luçi wrote: Hello, from needs on pfSense a patch for allowing multiple intances of ipfw(4) in kernel to co-exist was developed. It can be found here https://raw.github.com/bsdperimeter/pfsense-tools/master/patches/RELENG_9_0/CP_multi_instance_ipfw.diff It is used in co

Re: [PATCH] multiple instances of ipfw(4)

2012-01-31 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/31/12 12:53 AM, Ermal Luçi wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Vadim Goncharov wrote: Hi Ermal Lu?i! On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:01:13 +0100; Ermal Lu?i wrote about '[PATCH] multiple instances of ipfw(4)': from needs on pfSense a patch for allowing multiple intances of ipfw(4) in kern

Re: A dual-ISP hack with jail/vnet and ipfw

2012-02-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/4/12 9:05 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Natd(8) knows how to deal with multiple NAT instances for different interfaces, which is useful when you have multiple ISPs. The problem with it, is that it becomes incredibly hairy to configure your IPFW rules, in particular if you have other policy t

Re: [RFT][patch] Scheduling for HTT and not only

2012-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/6/12 11:10 AM, Alexander Best wrote: On Mon Feb 6 12, Alexander Motin wrote: On 02/06/12 19:37, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Monday 06 February 2012 17:29:14 Alexander Motin wrote: On 02/06/12 18:01, Alexander Best wrote: On Mon Feb 6 12, Alexander Motin wrote: I've analyzed scheduler beh

Re: [PATCH] multiple instances of ipfw(4)

2012-02-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/8/12 6:09 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 03:04:09PM +0100, Ermal Lu?i wrote: E> 2012/2/8 Gleb Smirnoff: E> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:02:04PM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: E> > L> if i understand what the patch does, i think it makes sense to be E> > L> able to hook

Re: OS support for fault tolerance

2012-02-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/14/12 6:23 AM, Maninya M wrote: For multicore desktop computers, suppose one of the cores fails, the FreeBSD OS crashes. My question is about how I can make the OS tolerate this hardware fault. The strategy is to checkpoint the state of each core at specific intervals of time in main memory.

Re: OS support for fault tolerance

2012-02-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/14/12 9:27 AM, Rayson Ho wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: but I'm interested in any answers people may have The way other OSes handle this is by detecting any abnormal amounts of faults (sometimes it's not the fault of the hardware - eg. when

Re: OS support for fault tolerance

2012-02-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/14/12 3:51 PM, Jan Mikkelsen wrote: Coming back to the multicore issue: The problem when a core fails is that it has affected more than its own state. It will be holding locks on shared resources and may have corrupted shared memory or asked a device to do the wrong thing. By the time yo

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On 02/17/12 14:08, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote: For me as a user, that would be a much preferable approach, instilled long ago by Linux. I don't like unused stuff around, and I like to understand what I am using. Some build kernel confutation parameters "minimum modules", "medium modules", "maxi

Re: OS support for fault tolerance

2012-02-21 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/20/12 6:32 AM, Da Rock wrote: On 02/15/12 03:25, Brandon Falk wrote: On 2/14/2012 12:05 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:57:10AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/14/12 6:23 AM, Maninya M wrote: For multicore desktop computers, suppose one of the cores fails, the

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2012-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/26/12 5:34 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: Hi, I'd like to hear from somebody who understands this stuff on the relative merits of blackhole routes vs firewall drop rules for dealing with packets from unwanted sources. I'm particularly interested in efficiency and scalability. Thanks the key is

Re: Blackhole routes vs firewall drop rules

2012-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
let's try that again with the right Subject: line On 2/26/12 1:05 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/26/12 5:34 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: Hi, I'd like to hear from somebody who understands this stuff on the relative merits of blackhole routes vs firewall drop rules for dealing with pa

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2012-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/26/12 1:14 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, February 26, 2012 a las 01:05:11PM -0800, Julian Elischer escribió: On 2/26/12 5:34 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: Hi, I'd like to hear from somebody who understands this stuff on the relative merits of blackhole routes vs firewall drop

Re: Never forget a special trick...

2012-03-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/4/12 12:47 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On Mar 4, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Phillip Spring wrote: Dear anonymous open-source enthusiasts friends, How to echo a string backwards into a terminal? For example (or something like this): # echo @_foo_$ oof Or it could be something else (that's because I f

will 9.2 be called 'diehard'? or maybe Naktomi?

2012-03-13 Thread Julian Elischer
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Re: Capture states of all processes at the same time

2012-03-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/14/12 12:02 PM, Artem Belevich wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Maninya M wrote: Then typed this to force a panic: sysctl debug.kdb.panic=1 The computer just hung after this, and after waiting for a while I pressed the reboot button. It said "no core dumps found" while rebooting.

Re: Is there any modern alternative to pstack?

2012-04-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/2/12 10:12 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Monday, April 02, 2012 12:39:26 pm Yuri wrote: On 04/02/2012 05:31, John Baldwin wrote: Hmm, I don't know if the port has it, but I did some work on pstack a while ago to make it work with libthread_db so it at least handles i386 ok. It needs to be mo

Re: Is there any modern alternative to pstack?

2012-04-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/4/12 5:44 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 4 April 2012 01:41, Julian Elischer wrote: should be in ports? Not unless someone decides to become the new upstream and make a release. We do not maintain software in ports. but we do add patches to make things work on FreeBSD

Re: PID/UID namespaces

2012-05-21 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/21/12 6:47 AM, David Windsor wrote: Hi, While doing some research on FreeBSD jails, I came across an item in the jails' TODO: - be able to have a separate PID space for it - be able to specify a separate UID space for it In other projects, these goals have been accomplished using

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-25 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/24/12 5:35 AM, Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012, Tim Kientzle wrote: On May 22, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, May 22, 2012 a las 07:42:18AM -0600, Warren Block escribió: On Tue, 22 May 2012, Matthias Apitz wro

Re: [jail] Allowing root privledged users to renice

2012-05-25 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/25/12 10:04 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On 25. May 2012, at 16:48 , Sean Bruno wrote: I've been toying with the idea of letting jails renice processes ... how dangerous and/or stupid is this idea? //depot/yahoo/ybsd_9/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c#5 - /home/seanbru/ybsd_9/src/sys/kern/kern_

Re: How to diagnose system freezes?

2012-07-31 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/31/12 5:02 PM, Yuri wrote: One of my 9.1-BETA1 systems periodically freezes. If sound was playing, it would usually cycle with a very short period. And system stops being sensitive to keyboard/mouse. Also ping of this system doesn't get a response. I would normally think that this is the f

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/1/12 12:45 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Attilio Rao wrote: As for the mbuf meeting, all I can find from it online is: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2012-June/012629.html actually nothing has happenned on this yet that I know of, which i

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/2/12 9:53 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 08/02/2012 09:44, Garrett Cooper wrote: The "Watson/Losh connection" worked really well in BSDCan 2010 :). I wasn't going to mention that, since I didn't want to tell tales out of school. But the fact that remote participation actually was provided for "

Re: [maybe spam] Published paper

2012-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/7/12 5:24 PM, ali mousa wrote: Hi, I have recently published a paper related to Operating System, can you please check it out http://www.ijcsi.org/papers/IJCSI-9-4-1-77-84.pdf and tell me your opinion, looking forward to hear from you ? Certainly interesting.. I will read more of it late

Re: FreeBSD 1.x Binaries Work Except under Chroot

2012-08-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/13/12 3:33 PM, Dan Plassche wrote: Konstantin, My apologies for any confusion. Your patch solved the problem on 8.2. Static and dynamic a.out binaries from 1.1.5.1 are working normally in a chroot environment now. you will also have to change PID_MAX (spelling?) to be 6 I have consi

Re: [maybe spam] Re: FreeBSD 1.x Binaries Work Except under Chroot

2012-08-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/14/12 6:07 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:28:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/13/12 3:33 PM, Dan Plassche wrote: Konstantin, My apologies for any confusion. Your patch solved the problem on 8.2. Static and dynamic a.out binaries from 1.1.5.1 are

Re: [maybe spam] Re: FreeBSD 1.x Binaries Work Except under Chroot

2012-08-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/15/12 3:29 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/14/12 6:07 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:28:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/13/12 3:33 PM, Dan Plassche wrote: Konstantin, My apologies for any confusion. Your patch solved the problem on 8.2. Static and

Re: cpu_spinwait in cngetc

2012-09-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/22/12 10:46 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 18/09/2012 16:25 Andriy Gapon said the following: (Why[*]) Would anyone object to a change like this? diff --git a/sys/kern/kern_cons.c b/sys/kern/kern_cons.c index 5346bc3..d17846a 100644 --- a/sys/kern/kern_cons.c +++ b/sys/kern/kern_cons.c @@ -384,

Re: VIMAGE crashes on 9.x with hotplug net80211 devices

2012-10-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/22/12 7:12 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 22 October 2012 03:08, Marko Zec wrote: The only option I can think of now is to update all of the hotunpluggable device_detach() handlers to do CURVNET_SET(ifp->if_vnet) before calling further down into the networking stack, because as you already o

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