If you want review for rc.d related stuff freebsd-rc@ is your best bet.
Meanwhile, this patch is fine, thanks for taking the time to look at it.
AFAICS neither 8 nor 7 has this feature either, so feel free to MFC.
Doug
On 11/12/2010 17:19, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Hi,
ramdisk* hasn't bee
MFC to 8 and 7 is done, I'm not going to MFC this to 6.
Thanks again,
Doug
On 11/12/2010 17:52, Doug Barton wrote:
If you want review for rc.d related stuff freebsd-rc@ is your best bet.
Meanwhile, this patch is fine, thanks for taking the time to look at it.
AFAICS neither 8 nor 7 has
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For those interested in the topic I have opened a discussion about the
idea of upgrading BIND in RELENG_7 on freebsd-stable. You can find the
post here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-December/060640.html
If you have anything
FYI, -stable is probably the better list for this.
On 01/08/2011 09:54, george+free...@m5p.com wrote:
George
I remember reading there was some sort of nfs issues in 8.1-RELEASE,
a regression of some sort it was noted early on in the release. Have
you tried this with 8.2-RC1 also what are you
On 01/08/2011 10:19, george+free...@m5p.com wrote:
No, I did not report the problems then.-- George
Well we're glad you're reporting them now. :)
Doug
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On 01/26/2011 12:00, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
Hi,
Alex
order to build the system. the VCS however is not part of the build toolchain
however (except 'make update' maybe).
Some good points, but also remember make release also uses cvs
grep CVS /usr/src/release/Makefile
A) The fact th
Sorry if I missed it, but I haven't seen an answer to the question of
whether you've kldload'ed the nvidia module. When you type 'kldstat'
does the nvidia module show up in the list? If not, type 'kldload
nvidia' and try again.
hth,
Doug
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On 01/29/2011 18:00, Duane H. Hesser wrote:
I realize that questions such as 'have you kldloaded..."
are asked in a helpful spirit, and I don't expect you to be unduly
impressed by my resume, but perhaps you will understand if I find
such questions mildly insulting...
No, I don't understand tha
On 02/05/2011 10:58, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote:
I just forget to add.
We tried to rebuild php and modules with WITHOUT_LINKTHR=false
Due to the way make works the opposite of WITHOUT_* is WITH_*. The
actual value that it's defined to is ignored.
In any case, you're better off using 'make con
I was looking over etc/periodic/daily/310.accounting on a system that is
very tight on space in /var, and I think that at minimum there is a
race, and at best there is a pretty serious inefficiency.
Right now after rotating the old logs the script does this:
cp -pf acct acct.0 || r
Ignore my last.
The problem is that if /var/account/acct disappears then accounting
stops. The attached is better, albeit more complicated. It also has the
pleasant side effect of cleaning up /etc/rc.d/accounting a bit.
I've confirmed that with this patch nothing is lost while the file is
be
On 02/22/2011 07:57, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Can accounting_file by provided by user input (doesn't look like
it today, but just to be safe I thought I should check)?
These are the kinds of questions it's good to answer for yourself before
you post to the list. :)
If so then the dirname
On 03/27/2011 08:38, David Wolfskill wrote:
It would (in principle) be possible to teach mergemaster(8) how to
do this (possibly by including a cookie in ~/.mergemasterrc or
/etc/mergemaster.rc to tell it what the "reference" zoneinfo pathname
is), but this type of approach seems sufficiently dif
On 03/27/2011 18:38, Ed Maste wrote:
That's what tzsetup does in HEAD - the name of the selected timezone file
is stored in /var/db/zoneinfo, and tzsetup -r can be used to copy in an
updated file:
-r Reinstall the zoneinfo file installed last time. The
name is obtained from /var/db/zo
I'm starting a new thread since while the previous one contained a lot
of good information it was starting to get a big fragmented, and as
someone pointed out mergemaster is not a general solution so I want to
focus on the area that I'm actually responsible for. :)
Having read everything in th
On 03/28/2011 15:38, Olivier Smedts wrote:
2011/3/28 Doug Barton:
I'm starting a new thread since while the previous one contained a lot of
good information it was starting to get a big fragmented, and as someone
pointed out mergemaster is not a general solution so I want to focus on the
On 03/28/2011 16:22, Devin Teske wrote:
In which case, I can jump up and down for joy and tell my boss that it's
once-again kosher to set /etc/localtime as a symbolic link.
It has always been true that the only "safe" way to make /etc/localtime
a symlink is to have / and /usr on the same files
On 04/04/2011 07:10, Philip Paeps wrote:
It looks like our /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors list (used only by pciconf as
far as I can tell) has become rather stale. We also appear to be tracking
sources which no longer exist.
Would anyone object if I updated this list to source the same database us
On 04/04/2011 20:30, Garrett Cooper wrote:
1. People may have automation that depends on this output.
To the extent that they rely on information that is out of date, fixing
this is a feature. However I cannot imagine that this would be much of
an issue.
2. Some braindead SCMs may be probl
On 04/04/2011 21:36, Garrett Cooper wrote:
2. Some braindead SCMs may be problematic with this change (p4?*COUGH*).
>
> Eh? I don't parse this.
perforce doesn't always grok large changes (especially deletions -- it
gets ditzy). The last change that was committed by someone at $WORK to
this fil
On 04/22/2011 10:58, Robert Lorentz wrote:
Hi,
I'm very interested in getting started with FreeBSD development. My interests
are wide but specifically core OS, performance, scheduling, cryptography,
perhaps filesystems etc.
I have seen the "Ideas" list and there is some good stuff there but t
On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote:
I'm still leaning toward just making the "V" in "Verbose" and "S" in
"Single
User" bolded.
Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known
standard in lots of places.
Agreed, that's a much
On 05/31/2011 07:39, Alexander Best wrote:
...which leads me to the conclusion that -O should be set when DEBUG was
defined: an all ARCHS.
+1
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On 07/09/2011 07:54, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
> Anyway, consider sendmail and BIND. I think these are important enough
> to get some more protection.
What additional protection could capsicum offer beyond chroot'ing?
(That's not a snark, I don't quite understand all the moving parts here.)
Doug
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On 07/11/2011 05:08, Ilya Bakulin wrote:
> chroot constraints only filesystem namespace, but doesn't prevent process
> from sending/receiving data via network,
... which is kind of important for DNS software. :)
> or from accessing other global
> namespaces such as PID namespace, SHM namespace, a
There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce
out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl
is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be
replaced by /boot/kernel.other.
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On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote:
> What release are you running?
Recent HEAD
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Please stop cross-posting to multiple lists. If you want review for an
rc.d issue post it to freebsd-rc@.
Thanks,
Doug
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On 09/02/2011 07:07, Jarrod Lee Petz wrote:
> We have an AIX system
It's not clear to me what the FreeBSD related problem is here.
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On 09/02/2011 17:51, Jarrod Lee Petz wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> The problem itself is currently seen on AIX yes.
So you're much more likely to get help on an AIX list.
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On 09/03/2011 06:46, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 10:25:11PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 09/02/2011 17:51, Jarrod Lee Petz wrote:
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> The problem itself is currently seen on AIX yes.
>>
>> So you're much
On 09/28/2011 13:26, Colin Barnabas wrote:
> I found a hello world program written in assembly language which
> runs on my amd64 8.2 stable box. However, I can not seem to get
> it to print a new line. Any suggestions on how to print a line
> feed in assembly?
No, we will not help you do your comp
On 10/10/2011 11:55, David Brodbeck wrote:
> Is there any reason to cache negative hits?
It's very important for DNS since there are a fairly large number of
misbehaving applications that don't stop querying until they get some
kind of answer.
And speaking of DNS, while I think that improving nsc
On 11/02/2011 13:28, Mark Saad wrote:
> Hackers
> What is going on here, if I run the following shell script, what is
> the expected output . The script is named xxx
>
> #!/bin/sh
> ps -ax | grep -v grep | grep xxx
>
> Here is what I see
>
>
> # sh xxx
> 88318 p0 S+ 0:00.00 sh xxx
> 883
On 11/02/2011 22:07, Deepak Gupta wrote:
> 6.3 release
... is well past EOL. You'd want to run your tests with something more
recent ... ideally with 9.0-RC1, or at minimum 8-stable.
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On 11/25/2011 00:12, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <2025070241.ga7...@dataix.net>, Jason Hellenthal writes:
>> List,
>>
>> When using @reboot with cron you expect your proccesses to always start when
>> the system boots up and only when the system boots. But long after the system
>> in ques
On 11/25/2011 00:29, Stefan Bethke wrote:
> I didn't even know cron had this feature. Why wouldn't you add custom rc.d
> scripts for these tasks, or add the commands to rc.local?
Personally I find this feature very useful for unprivileged users to do
their own stuff at startup.
Doug
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On 11/25/2011 08:09, Cy Schubert wrote:
> You're right. Sorry. It was late, after a long night of O/T.
Actually I was in the same boat, which is why my reply was even grumpier
than usual, sorry.
Meanwhile I like your suggestion of having cron check that it's within
$time_period before running the
On 11/25/2011 16:16, Tim Kientzle wrote:
>
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 11/25/2011 08:09, Cy Schubert wrote:
>>> You're right. Sorry. It was late, after a long night of O/T.
>>
>> Actually I was in the same boat, which is why
On 11/25/2011 23:08, Cy Schubert wrote:
> If average users really do need to run something at boot they're likely
> running some kind of service
I don't think second-guessing what users are doing is going to be a
useful exercise here. I will also tell you flat out that this is not the
only use fo
On 12/16/2011 14:11, Charlie Martin wrote:
> We've observed a panic in FreeBSD 7 (7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD) several
> times that we've not been able to track down. Upgrading to 8+ is not an
> option at this time.
First, your post should really be on freebsd-stable@. Second, your first
step should b
On 01/04/2012 15:42, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> Do we care about submitting it back to NetBSD?
The answer to this question is always yes. :) We work hard to maintain
good relationships with the other BSDs, and sharing improvements to
common code is a critical component to that.
Doug
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Looping in hrs@ because he's the author of those changes.
On 01/06/2012 11:35, Mark Felder wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:49:45 -0600, Sergey Kandaurov
> wrote:
>
>>
>> You mean ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="YES" ?
>>
> Yes... Unfortunately that's what I get for typing it manually and being
> d
You'll probably get a better response from freebsd-stable@.
Good luck,
Doug
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On 01/16/2012 16:02, Julian Elischer wrote:
> It pretty much boils down to one thing.. man power..
If the basic design of the system is wrong, it doesn't matter how many
person-hours you throw at it (or don't).
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First, let's do away with the whole, "If you step up to help, your help
will be accepted with open arms" myth. That's only true if the project
leadership agrees with your goals.
We also need to take a step back and ask if throwing more person-hours
at the problem is the right solution, or if redes
On 01/17/2012 19:20, Julian Elischer wrote:
> the trouble with 5 was that it had to be all-or-nothing.
>
> there is no such thing as a partly SMP system. (well, not one that you'd
> want to run).
>
> the size of the "giant pile of stuff" was not of our choosing.
... again, with all due respect t
On 01/18/2012 11:46, John Kozubik wrote:
> - mark 9 as the _only_ production release
While I understand your motivation, I am not sure this is a workable
goal when combined with the goal that others have expressed of longer
timelines for the support of a given branch. Speaking from personal
experi
On 01/18/2012 16:58, Dieter BSD wrote:
>> The original goal for 5.0 was to completely remove the Giant lock (and
>> do other cool SMP-related stuff). Eventually it was realized that this
>> was too big a goal to fully accomplish in 5.0 (albeit too late in the
>> process) and the goal was changed to
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, John Kozubik wrote:
Hi Doug,
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Doug Barton wrote:
On 01/18/2012 11:46, John Kozubik wrote:
- mark 9 as the _only_ production release
While I understand your motivation, I am not sure this is a workable
goal when combined with the goal that others
On 02/17/2012 15:11, matt wrote:
> We have a modular kernel. It makes best-practices-sense to keep the
> kernel true to what's required to boot and initialize the hardware
> required to come up multiuser. I am actually against having sound in
> there at all.
I think the question is not, "What shou
On 02/18/2012 10:43, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> loading modules through loader.conf is
>> veeryy slooww ...
>
> Is it noticeably slower to load (say) a 6MB kernel + 2MB of
> modules than to load an 8MB kernel?
On 02/19/2012 08:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Given the context of the thread, this:
>
> >> loading modules through loader.conf is
> >> veeryy slooww ...
>
> seemed to be an objection to modularizing the kernel.
The only way you could come to that concl
On 02/20/2012 08:54, Alex Goncharov wrote:
> ,--- You/Tom (Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:44:09 +) *
> | On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> | > Because loading modules through loader.conf is
> | > veeryy slooww I added an rc.d scrip
On 02/20/2012 06:44, Tom Evans wrote:
> wrt to sound drivers no longer being built as modules, I wonder why
> this change has been made. I don't recall a mass of people complaining
> that they couldn't load drivers,
Then you haven't been paying attention. :)
> Whatever happened to POLA? This ch
On 02/20/2012 07:23, Patrick Powell wrote:
> Oooh! Ahhh! Just what I was looking for. l will extract this from 9
> and put it on my system.
Glad you like it. :) One thing though, you're actually better off
updating to the latest -stable of whatever branch you're using, some
work has gone into
On 02/21/2012 02:49, Tom Evans wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 02/20/2012 06:44, Tom Evans wrote:
>>> Whatever happened to POLA? This change surprised me, wasn't mentioned
>>> in /usr/src/UPDATING,
>>
>> You're s
On 02/22/2012 01:42, Ivan Voras wrote:
> The Dragonfly team has recently liberated their VM from the giant lock and
> there are some interesting benchmarks comparing it to FreeBSD 9 and a
> derivative of RedHat Enterprise Linux:
>
> http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2011-11/msg
On 02/23/2012 05:22, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:59:02 pm Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 02/22/2012 01:42, Ivan Voras wrote:
>>> The Dragonfly team has recently liberated their VM from the giant lock and
>>> there are some interesting benchmarks co
On 3/1/2012 1:14 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
> My firefox on my BSD desktop was caching the image.
Holding down Shift when clicking reload usually handles this.
hth,
Doug
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On 03/02/2012 08:52, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Thursday, March 01, 2012 5:23:11 pm Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 3/1/2012 1:14 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> My firefox on my BSD desktop was caching the image.
>>
>> Holding down Shift when clicking reload usually handles
On 3/5/2012 8:24 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Andrzej Tobola wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:44:53PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
>>>
>>> INSTRUCTIONS:
>>>
>>> 1. cd /usr/src
>>
>> cd /usr/src/usr.sbin ?
>>
>
> Sorry… /usr/src/usr.bin
>
> You don't need to b
On 3/9/2012 7:02 AM, Alex Yong wrote:
> I've been playing around with IPv6 networking on FreeBSD release 8.2 and
> found that there seems to be no strong incoming host model as specified in
> RFC 1122.
First, you're infinitely more likely to get a useful response if you
send your message to freebs
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote:
> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested
As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically
it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer
version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have chang
On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
>> On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote:
>>> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested
>>
>> As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically
>> it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer
>> version. 8.
On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote:
>> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote:
> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested
As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically
it's not likely that you'll get a he
On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
> As a user, you can't win. If you don't report
> a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure
> out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it
> but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you
On 4/2/2012 3:59 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>> On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
>>> As a user, you can't win. If you don't report
>>> a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure
>>> out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it
>>> but you don't
On 4/25/2012 7:55 AM, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, those can be left in place, if they are part of STDOUT, as I
> leave only STDERR to reach my eyes. And I see exactly those 2 'ln -s
> ...' lines because they are outputed to STDERR.
Right, I have the same issue with mergemaster ever since
As someone pointed out when this thread started, it's off-topic for
hackers. Please take it to advocacy.
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On 06/07/2012 02:57 AM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote:
> What do you think about adding generic support for overriding *_enable
> options in rc.conf?
>
> I'd like to be able to disable services at boot prompt, e.g.
> # set rc.slim_enable="no" -- overrides slim_enable="yes" in rc.conf
>
> Similarly rc.pf_ena
On 06/07/2012 08:12 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> I've run into _multiple_ scenarios where this isn't possible because
> the terminal settings are screwed up in single user mode, and had to
> resort to `sed -i '' `.
If that happens, a) report it! SUM is a very important part of FreeBSD,
and it needs
On 06/07/2012 11:10, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 07/06/2012 17:29 Doug Barton said the following:
>> On 06/07/2012 02:57 AM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote:
>>> What do you think about adding generic support for overriding *_enable
>>> options in rc.conf?
>>>
>>> I&
On 06/13/2012 06:50 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 09/06/2012 19:17 Doug Barton said the following:
>> If this were a problem we didn't already have a solution for, I'd be
>> much more interested in what you're proposing.
>
> I wonder if you were in the same
On 06/15/2012 11:37, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote:
>*** The following files exist in /etc/rc.d but not in
>/var/tmp/temproot/etc/rc.d/:
>
> sshd
man src.conf, and search for SSH. You have one of those options defined
in your environment.
Doug
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It's unfortunate that this thread evolved into a discussion about
replacing rc.d, since that's almost certainly not relevant to the
original topic of improving the overall boot time.
If you analyze the boot process thoroughly you should see that out of
the total time taken to boot, nearly 0 is spe
On 6/18/2012 9:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> The latter item is the only place where making changes to rc.d is going
>> to help, and only then by parellelizing, and even then you are not
>> really going to gain much since most things at boot time are serial.
>
> grep sleep /etc/rc.d/* usr/local
On 6/18/2012 4:05 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> Doug, we already have OpenRC implemented. You can install Gentoo FreeBSD
> in a jail, install regular FreeBSD in another jail and do your own
> performance comparisons.
Bt! Thanks for playing. :) You're the one proposing the change,
YOU get to do
I was working on a reply along similar lines, but instead I'll say that
i agree 100% with what Mark said, and thanks to him for saving me a lot
of time. :)
Richard, with all that said if you still are interested in specs for a
test program, I'm still willing to help with that. Just let me know.
D
On 06/21/2012 05:28 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> 32.0s - rc scripts ("mounting root" through VTY login prompt)
I think that there is some confusion about what I wrote originally, so
let me clarify. From the time that /etc/rc starts through the time that
the prompt appears almost all of the time is sp
On 07/02/2012 04:12, George Mitchell wrote:
> I've been using IPv6 for quite a few years without problems and I've
> had no difficulty browsing
Many more sites are actually putting, or have put, IPv6 into production
since the latest world IPv6 day last month. Some growing pains are
inevitable.
D
On 07/02/2012 09:25, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, David Wolfskill wrote:
>
>> Huh??!?
>>
>> At least as far back as 06 Jan (based on the mtime of /etc/src.conf), I
>> had set up src.conf to read:
>>
>> PORTS_MODULES=x11/nvidia-driver
>
> "Don't do that."
> PORTS_MODULES is document
The problem is fixed now. This time I tested build and install with the
same code. :(
Sorry for the breakage,
Doug
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On 07/02/2012 13:41, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 07/02/2012 09:25, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, David Wolfskill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Huh??!?
>>>>
>>>> At least as far back
On 07/02/2012 19:08, Robert Simmons wrote:
> Are there plans to pull the following into head before the code freeze for
> 9.1?
>
> BIND 9.9.1p1
We never change the version of BIND in a release branch. The 9.8 version
that's there is up to date.
The correct solution to this problem is to remove
On 07/03/2012 05:39, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Doug Barton writes:
>> The correct solution to this problem is to remove BIND from the base
>> altogether, but I have no energy for all the whinging that would happen
>> if I tried (again) to do that.
>
> I don&#x
On 07/03/2012 06:36, Mark Felder wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:39:34 -0500, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't think there will be as much whinging as you expect. Times have
>> changed.
>
> Agreed; if we need DNS in base (really, why?) then unbound+nsd are prime
> candidates, but they
On 07/04/2012 10:01, Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 07/03/2012 05:39, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>>> Doug Barton writes:
>>>>> The corre
On 07/04/2012 11:51, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> What would be really nice here is a command wrapper hooked into the
> shell so that when you type a command and it does not exist it presents
> you with a question for suggestions to install somewhat like Fedora has
> done.
I would also like to see th
On 07/04/2012 14:55, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 06:39 AM 7/3/2012, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
>> I'm willing to import and maintain unbound (BSD-licensed validating,
>> recursive, and caching DNS resolver) if you remove BIND.
>
> I've been using djb, and -- despite its quirks -- I'm very happy w
On 07/04/2012 15:01, Mike Meyer wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:19:38 -0700
> Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 07/04/2012 11:51, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>> What would be really nice here is a command wrapper hooked into the
>>> shell so that when you type a command and
On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this
No ... not only is sudo not a necessary component, it shouldn't be
involved at all. The feature works on debian/ubuntu for regular
userspace commands.
Doug
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On 07/04/2012 15:57, Yuri wrote:
> On 07/04/2012 15:08, Doug Barton wrote:
>> First, I agree that being able to turn it off should be possible. But I
>> can't help being curious ... why would you *not* want a feature that
>> tells you what to install if you type a com
On 07/04/2012 16:41, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this
>>
>> No ... not only is sudo not a necessary component
On 07/04/2012 17:30, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>>> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this
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On 07/04/2012 21:08, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 04:03 PM 7/4/2012, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> Other than that, if whoever actually pushes all the rocks uphill to make
>> the installer more modular in this regard decides to include djbdns,
>> more power to them. :)
>
> I&
On 07/05/2012 01:28, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2012-Jul-05 09:22:25 +0200, Jonathan McKeown
> wrote:
>> As for the idea that Linux refugees need extra help to migrate,
>> that's the sort of thinking that led to things like:
>>
>> alias dir=ls
>
> Whilst we're on the subject, can we please also ha
On 07/07/2012 14:16, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>
> On 3. Jul 2012, at 12:39 , Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
>> Doug Barton writes:
>>> The correct solution to this problem is to remove BIND from the base
>>> altogether, but I have no energy for all the whinging
On 07/07/2012 16:33, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> < said:
>
>> BIND in the base today comes with a full-featured local resolver
>> configuration, which I'm confident that Dag-Erling can do for unbound
>> (and which I would be glad to assist with if needed). Other than that,
>> what integration are you
On 07/07/2012 16:34, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> On 7. Jul 2012, at 23:17 , Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 07/07/2012 14:16, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3. Jul 2012, at 12:39 , Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doug Barton writes:
>>>&g
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