I am sitting with a 80-90% IO disk problem after converting this one box
from linux to freebsd. I enabled soft-updates on that partition...that did
not help to much...and ram is fine. I am guessing because ext2fs uses
asyncronous metadatawrites and favors speed over reliablity that that is
why li
] wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:27:21 -0500 (EST)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dan Phoenix wrote:
>
> >
> > I am s
..not sure if that will help but
worth a shot...definately not looking forward to seeing linux again!
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:55:01 -0800
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:55:01 -0800
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> * Dan Ph
performance I can get.
I'll keep you informed.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:22:18 -0800
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PR
0
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> * Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010205 16:30] wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05,
Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:01:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qm
TECTED]>
> Cc: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> * Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010205 16:30] wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 02:11:38PM -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> > > their mail message is taken
2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:28:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject
; From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> :ok of those commands some interestin
,
> Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Silbersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charles Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [
that means down one controller?
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:31:26 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Andrew Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alfred Perlstein <
Sounds reasonable...do you have a url to a trustable supplier?
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:08:43 -0800
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PR
ischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andrew Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Rik van
talking about venim or ccd?
I'll keep cluster solution in mind for the 2 disks.
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Geoff Buckingham wrote:
> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:08:31 +
> From: Geoff Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Julian Elischer <
Yes the fbsd 4.2 has softupdates in the kernel by default.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dan Nelson wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:20:29 -0600
> From: Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
&
WHo would I contact for support for freebsd for that driver?
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> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: http://www.emulex.com/fc/lp8000.html
>
>
> Me, if you like. I even have a card. I'll piss off Qlogic, but so be it. But
> you have to get real engineering info for support.
&
Ya well i think solaris should stay on sun hardware.
we'll see
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Mike Smith wrote:
> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:42:33 -0800
> From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Matthew Jacob <[EMA
?
Regards,
Dan
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:01:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
Thanks for that urlalong with that and Chris Watson's help :)
was able to get then up running vinum...thanks again.
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dan Langille wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:58:42 +1300
> From: Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <
Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO problems
>
> On 16 Feb 2001, at 16:34, Dan Phoenix wrote:
>
> > 3 drives in there as of 3 min ago.
> > just want to take these 3 and raid0 then
drive ibm1 device /dev/da0s1e
drive ibm2 device /dev/da1s1e
drive ibm3 device /dev/da2s1e
volume stripe
plex org striped 512s
sd length 8714m drive ibm1
sd length 8714m drive ibm2
sd length 8714m drive ibm3
is this right?
i did an rm -rf on 150megs and it is taking forever on this
I would like to set up this challenge early next week.
NOw that I have taken out the IO issue with the mail servers
...already proved postfix did better on I/O so now i want to eliminate
that factor to 2 exactly the same machines. I running qmail ...1 running
postfix to see which MTA has better
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:13:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Gordon Tetlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jesper Skriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO--qmail v
Tetlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Jesper Skriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail IO--qmail vs postfix competition
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dan Phoenix wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Gordon Tetl
[Mon Feb 26 13:04:34 2001] [error] (54)Connection reset by
peer: getsockname
[Mon Feb 26 13:04:39 2001] [emerg] (9)Bad file
descriptor: flock: LOCK_EX: Error getting accept lock. Exiting!
[Mon Feb 26 13:04:39 2001] [alert] Child 777 returned a Fatal error...
Apache is exiting!
httpd in free():
.
seeing that on 2 webservers that have highest cpu
yet others are exactly the same with really low cpu's
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:07:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: apache
etsockname
so i guess i will ask about getsockname..i have experience this before
when maxclients was set to low. That is not the case hererunning out
of ideas.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:02:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMA
I did not specify a lock directive in httpd.conf.
Default my httpd is in /usr/local/apache
i would assume lock file is going there which is an ide drive.
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:57:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTEC
symbolic link /etc/resolv.conf
to a non-existant filethrow a bunch of connections at it
and watch it reboot.
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People asking me how this could be used as a local user.
Well i guess if you wanted to you could find something root runs
that writes to /tmp then umask resolv.conf
and echo "" > resolv.conf
I am in no way supporting that...just answering a question.
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Dan
a few hours to run out of mbufs etc :)
name lookups shouldn't be happening in kernel space.
was somethign suggested.
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Dan Debertin wrote:
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:15:02 -0600 (CST)
> From: Dan Debertin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECT
lolya that would definately be a killer :)
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:25:53 -0800
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: easy way to
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Chris Costello wrote:
> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:24:19 -0600
> From: Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: easy way to crash freebsd
>
> On Friday, March 02, 20
I would like to get a more accurate picture of each.
example:
webserverabit of a high load..1 ide drive..memory ok
[root@lotho dphoenix]# uptime
2:25PM up 2 days, 21:10, 1 user, load averages: 6.94, 8.23, 9.34
[root@lotho dphoenix]#
systat -iostat
/0 /10 /20 /30 /40
Mar 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:31:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: systat -vmstat or iostat IO help
>
> :systat -vmstat
> :
> :Disks
if the drive is doing more than say 166 seeks on
disk per sec. Any great tool out there :)
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:02:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROT
? just trying to get
a quick overview of what a good accessment that was...never thought of
that.
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:24:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EM
I guess that machien was a bad example as it is doing well right now.
I will have to wait till peak time again to monitor it.
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:51:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Matt Dillon &l
CC="gcc -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer" OPTIM="-O2 -DBUFFERED_LOGS"
could some c guru tell me if this would be bad to use to an apache
optimization? I need to compile apache on my own not with ports
looking at makefile
in apache13 in ports collection i see these optimization flags.
along with --m
open("./semcache.inc",0,0666)ERR#2 'No such file or
directory'
open("/website/include/semcache.inc",0,0666) = 5 (0x5)
__getcwd(0xbfbf6b90,0x400) = 0 (0x0)
open(".",0,00) = 6 (0x6)
chdir(0xbfbf6744)
show alot of that in top
occasioanallythink that could be from nfs timeouts
or just waiting on mysql connections to come back?
what are they generally from?
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Dan
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|
lhost is because we have alot of
virtual hosts setup and is required in that case as they all use same ip
address.
thx.
Dan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:12:54 -0700
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <
ED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lockf in apache
>
> At a glance the following config should work. If apache is not in
> 'accept' then you've done something wrong.
>
>
> * Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PR
;
; APC ;
;
apc.cachedir="/usr/cache"
apc.relative_includes= 1
apc.check_mtime = 1
threw that in the php.ini file.
Started apache and booom webservers went to hell...each httpd taking
20 megs or more on a couple webservers. Anyone experience this?
Com
, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:21:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: apc and apache
>
>
> ;
> ; APC ;
> ;
>
> apc.cachedir="/usr/cache&q
hmmm i made all website files owned by apache owner and all was normal!
i told apc not to write to my webfiles yet it does anyways.
Anyone see anything fishy going on here?
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dan Phoenix &
78662 cvs-4 0 10132K52K nfsvin 0:09 0.00% 0.00% httpd
83992 cvs-4 0 9904K52K nfsvin 0:09 0.00% 0.00% httpd
39488 cvs-4 0 9464K 7448K nfsvin 0:08 0.00% 0.00% httpd
here is an example from top.
killall httpd won;t even work when it is in this s
Ya I think i tried that in the past with no success as freebsd didn't talk
solaris nfs to well, but I'll give it a shot again what the hell.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:26:42 -0700
> From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
These 2 are from running it on each on the ide drives without vinum.
[root@gorbag /mnt1]# dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=16384k count=1000
1000+0 records in
1000+0 records out
16777216000 bytes transferred in 799.865832 secs (20975038 bytes/sec)
[root@gorbag /mnt2]# dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs
Jun 6 18:48:10 www rpc.statd: invalid hostname to
sm_stat: ^X^X^Z
^Z%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%62716x%hn%51859x%hnM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-
^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM
-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^
nfs_getpages: error 70
vm_fault: pager read error, pid 72424 (httpd)
I get occasional cpu spikes for like 10-20 sec occasionally
wondering what this is from.i am thinking nfs timeout maybe
i am ready got maxusers set to 500.
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I am new to this list and was wondering if anyone could offer some insight
to a problem I am having. This involves apache-php and nfs mounts.
We are apparently getting timeouts occasionally on the nfs mount the
apache deamon reads from ...some forum cache images we have, they are on
an nfs mount.
Sorry that one is for linux and solaris.
You can try ln -s /usr/libexec/ /lib
that should fix your problem :)
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Eric Melville wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:45:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eric Melville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sub
anyone?
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:09:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: test
>
>
> I am new to this list and was wondering if anyone could offer some insight
we have no choice.
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, jl wrote:
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:52:02 -0800
> From: jl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: APACHE PROBLEMS
>
> It's probably
yes i tried that last week seemes to be abit better now.
It has only happened once since my upgrade from 4.1 to 4.2
last week.
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote:
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:50:42 -0600 (CST)
> From: Mike Silbersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan
problems i am experiencing .
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote:
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:05:18 -0600 (CST)
> From: Mike Silbersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: APACHE PROBLEMS
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Dan Phoe
my fingers. Only the freebsd
machines have problems like this. I am already at 4.2 with latest src from
about a week ago!!!
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Mathew KANNER wrote:
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:33:01 -0500
> From: Mathew KANNER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAI
Lame question but from a fresh freebsd install
i plug a serial cable into com1 on freebsd machine
and need to access another machine. Anyone set this up
before? What do I need to do to start this process going?
Any help would be much appreciated...thanks.
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Dan
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take it from ports collection we need to specify /dev/sio0? is it?
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Dan Phoenix wrote:
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:49:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Minicom freebsd howto!
>
>
> Lame ques
Ya ok i feel stupid :(
thx
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:03:56 -0600
> From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Minicom freebsd howto!
>
> O
elf-serving web page
trying to get laid
similar to your "speak about myself in the 3rd person" home page
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:09:19 -0600
> From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
&
I don;t know if I will be on this list anymore after reporting the abuse
Bill Fumerola has done as he works for freebsd.orgif i am now removed
from this list please cc me any thing he says about me ...thankyou.
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Dan
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Ya, ok let;s stop this childish game already...stupid of me
to stoop to his level.
I appologise formally to anyone that took offence.
Thankyou,
Dan.
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 15:49:40 -0800
> From: Jordan Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
[root@elrond conf]# ifconfig tun0 1.1.1.1 up
ifconfig: interface tun0 does not exist
[root@elrond conf]# ls -al /dev/tun0
crw--- 1 uucp dialer52, 0 Dec 12 13:30 /dev/tun0
[root@elrond conf]#
this is confusing metrying to get vtund working in ports collection.
tun device is
/lib/ld.so /lib/ld.so.old;echo "Damnit"
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:54:48 +0100
> From: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix
ace available
ftp> ls
425 Can't open passive connection: No buffer space available.
Passive mode refused.
ftp>
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:44:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apache PMAP_SHPGPERPRO
nkyou
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Daniel Hagan wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:50:43 -0500
> From: Daniel Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: apache PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (fwd)
>
> Are you running out of mbufs? T
Ok i fixed itnfsbufs or something and maxusers i increased
solved this problem.
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Daniel Hagan wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:50:43 -0500
> From: Daniel Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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