Hi all,
I've got an xbox running at my parents' house as a backup MX, among
other things.
Ages ago I updated it from 7.2 -> 8.1, and I ended up with no end of
trouble, and finished by restoring a backup. I emailed rink@, although
he replied it appears a case of ENOTIME.
Am I the last person on t
Hi all,
After removing all kittens from Ed's reach, I'm disclosing that
sysutils/runit tried to use utmpx to directly read() and write() the
utmpx files directly...
I've replaced the offending code with a patch to the port [1], but I
wonder if anyone would please review the patch? I don't have a
On 27 May 2011 17:47, wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Alexander Best
> To: rank1see...@gmail.com
> Cc: hack...@freebsd.org
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:47:54 +
> Subject: Re: Active slice, only for a next boot
>
> > On Fri May 27 11, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Idea is .
On 28 May 2011 10:04, "Julian Elischer" wrote:
>
> On 5/27/11 11:34 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> On May 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alexander Best
>>> To: rank1see...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: hack...@freebsd.org
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2
On 30 May 2011 18:44, Dieter BSD wrote:
>> maybe we find some nice -Wwarning options which are reasonable
>> to have
>
> -Wmissing-declarations
> -Wimplicit
>
> FreeBSD's gcc doesn't seem to have -Wcoercion ???
> Bugzilla indicates that it was added years ago (2006?).
>
> It would be really real
Hi all,
Macros are being tested for bsd.port.mk that use a new class of files,
in the same vein as the BINOWN variables I have introduced CONFOWN,
CONFGRP, CONFMODE and CONFDIR.
Please would someone review and give an opinion on [1]?
I'd _really_ appreciate getting it in before 9-R
Chris
http:
On 17 Jun 2011 19:53, "Warner Losh" wrote:
>
> I like it. I think we should get it in ASAP.
>
> Warner
You have a src bit ;)
Chris
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On 19 June 2011 09:15, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 18:40, Chris Rees wrote:
>> Macros are being tested for bsd.port.mk that use a new class of files,
>> in the same vein as the BINOWN variables I have introduced CONFOWN,
>> CO
On 19 June 2011 15:36, Dieter BSD wrote:
>> CONFDIR is for base, not ports
>
> Perhaps ${BASE_CONF_DIR}, ${PORTS_CONF_DIR}, ...
Have a look at the surrounding code, it matches the other variables
that we have always used.
Please don't let this become a bikeshed!
Chris
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On 19 June 2011 10:14, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
>> On 19 June 2011 09:15, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 18:40, Chris Rees wrote:
>>>> Macros are being tested for bsd.port.mk tha
On 3 April 2011 22:11, Ed Schouten wrote:
> Hi Chris, Kostik,
>
> * Kostik Belousov , 20110403 21:26:
>> On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:40:14PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
>> > In short-- FreeBSD/xbox is bitrotted (or so it appears!)
>
> Well, I did run FreeBSD HEAD on my X
On 26 June 2011 16:31, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On Sunday 26 June 2011 16:19:14 Chris Rees wrote:
>> It was panicking on boot apparently, though kdb doesn't appear to work
>> with the USB keyboard I was forced to use.
>
> If you give USB some time to enumerate I sho
On 26 Jun 2011 16:51, "Chris Rees" wrote:
>
> On 26 June 2011 16:31, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 June 2011 16:19:14 Chris Rees wrote:
> >> It was panicking on boot apparently, though kdb doesn't appear to work
> >> with the USB keyb
Hi all,
[crees@zeus]~% tail -n 2 /usr/ports/UIDs
dbxml:*:949:949::0:0:dbXML user:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin
nobody:*:65534:65534::0:0:Unprivileged user:/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin
[crees@zeus]~% grep crees /etc/passwd
crees:*:1001:1001:Chris Rees:/home/crees:/bin/tcsh
chris:*:1001:1001:Chris
On 28 June 2011 17:59, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Jun 28), Chris Rees said:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> [crees@zeus]~% tail -n 2 /usr/ports/UIDs
>> dbxml:*:949:949::0:0:dbXML user:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin
>> nobody:*:65534:65534::0:0:Unprivileged user:/nonexi
On 28 June 2011 20:50, jhell wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 06:30:23PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
>> On 28 June 2011 17:59, Dan Nelson wrote:
>> > In the last episode (Jun 28), Chris Rees said:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> [crees@zeus]~% tail
On 28 June 2011 20:57, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 28 June 2011 20:50, jhell wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 06:30:23PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
>>> On 28 June 2011 17:59, Dan Nelson wrote:
>>> > In the last episode (Jun 28), Chris Rees said:
>>> >> H
On 28 Jun 2011 21:33, "Greg Lewis" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:11:54PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
> > On 28 June 2011 20:57, Chris Rees wrote:
> > > On 28 June 2011 20:50, jhell wrote:
> > >> Also: (stable/8) /usr/ports/UIDs
> > >>
2011/7/3 Alexander Kabaev :
>
> __linux__ is exactly what __FreeBSD__ is and dies not identify kernel
> but rather Linux as whole OS, whatever that might be these days.
>
> There does not appear to be an universal macro that identifies
> environment as using Linux kernel regardless of the rest of c
On 3 July 2011 15:44, Alexander Kabaev wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:38:41 +0100
> Chris Rees wrote:
>> 2011/7/3 Alexander Kabaev :
>> >
>> > __linux__ is exactly what __FreeBSD__ is and dies not identify
>> > kernel but rather Linux as whole OS,
On 28 July 2011 19:47, Mikhail T. wrote:
> The most common method to refer to the upper directory in Makefile is as
> ${.CURDIR}/..
>
> I'd like to propose we begin using ${.CURDIR:H} instead. For one this speeds
> up the filesystem-traversal for the invoked tool. And, perhaps more
> importantly,
*** Sorry, emailed from wrong address and it bounced from hackers ***:
I might suggest moving this to rc@. I'll try it later, looks interesting.
Chris
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On 11 September 2011 13:19, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> "b. f." wrote:
>> >
>> > I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2,
>> >
>> > FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE & current man bzip2
>> > .../-current/src/contrib/bzip2/bzip2.1
>> >
>> > adding URLs
>> > http://ww
On 27 Sep 2011 12:24, wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: h h
> To: rank1see...@gmail.com
> Cc: hack...@freebsd.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:03:08 +
> Subject: Re: /usr/src -> make doesn't recognize target when '-f -' is used
>
> > rank1see...@gmail.com writes:
> >
> > > cd /us
On 27 September 2011 17:23, wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Rees
> To: rank1see...@gmail.com
> Cc: h h , hack...@freebsd.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:16:57 +0100
> Subject: Re: /usr/src -> make doesn't recognize target when '-f -' is us
On 7 Oct 2011 08:13, wrote:
>
> Ivan Voras wrote:
> > On 05/10/2011 09:38, Trond Endrest??l wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:54+1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > >> In my experience ncsd seems to cache negative hits forever,
> > >> regardless of the setting for negative-time-to-live.
> > >
> > >
On 26 November 2011 07:25, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 11/25/2011 23:08, Cy Schubert wrote:
>> If average users really do need to run something at boot they're likely
>> running some kind of service
>
> I don't think second-guessing what users are doing is going to be a
> useful exercise here. I will
On 26 November 2011 19:00, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 06:43:38AM +0100, Michael Ross wrote:
>> Am 26.11.2011, 06:11 Uhr, schrieb Jason Hellenthal :
>> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:36:40PM +0100, Christian Kastner wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On 2011-11-25 08:02, Jason Hellen
On 5 Dec 2011 17:27, "Freddie Cash" wrote:
>
> 2011/12/5
>
> > I've took machine and installed binary FreeBSD(amd64 8.2-p4 GENERIC) on
it.
> > Then I've installed 'benchmarks/unixbench' port.
> >
> > So everything is a default generic binary install ('make.conf' empty -
no
> > CPU optimization fl
On 6 Dec 2011 17:04, wrote:
>
> # /bin/sh -c "gcc -v -x c -E -mtune=native /dev/null -o /dev/null 2>&1 |
grep mtune | sed -e 's/.*mtune=//'"
> generic
>
> For target machine, it returned 'generic'
>
> Now only with CPUTYPE in 'make.conf':
> --
> CPUTYPE?=core2
> --
>
> > Also, you should set these
On 9 Dec 2011 17:51, "Arnaud Lacombe" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Rafal Jaworowski
wrote:
> >
> > On 2011-12-08, at 17:53, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/08/11 03:01, Piotr Nowak wrote:
> >>> We're working on PowerPC target using GCC 4.2.1
> >>> and FreeBSD 6.1. It
Hi all,
Apologies for the noob question-- I'm trying to stop audio/oss causing
panics when loaded on a system that includes DEVICE sound in its
kernel config (which has been GENERIC for ~6months now :))
Is there a simple way to check for existence of a driver? I could
even check for /dev/sndstat
On 28 December 2011 12:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 28/12/2011, at 22:07, Chris Rees wrote:
>> Is there a simple way to check for existence of a driver? I could
>> even check for /dev/sndstat, though that doesn't seem elegant to me...
>
> kldstat -v, but
2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:23:58PM +0000, Chris Rees wrote:
>> On 28 December 2011 12:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>> >
>> > On 28/12/2011, at 22:07, Chris Rees wrote:
>> >> Is there a simple way to check for existence of
2011/12/29 Kostik Belousov :
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:53:19PM +0000, Chris Rees wrote:
>> 2011/12/29 Kostik Belousov :
>> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:46:57AM +, Chris Rees wrote:
>> >> 2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 2
2011/12/29 Kostik Belousov :
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:46:57AM +0000, Chris Rees wrote:
>> 2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
>> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:53:42PM +, Chris Rees wrote:
>> >> 2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 2
2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:53:42PM +0000, Chris Rees wrote:
>> 2011/12/28 Kostik Belousov :
>> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:23:58PM +, Chris Rees wrote:
>> >> On 28 December 2011 12:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>> >>
On 17 Jan 2012 13:38, "Atom Smasher" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, richo wrote:
>
>> This would be a different argument if all the devs were paid a salary.
>
> ==
>
> what percentage of linux devs are on salary to develop linux?
>
You're not comparing like with like.
Linux is not a
On 17 January 2012 20:30, Atom Smasher wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Chris Rees wrote:
>
>> > what percentage of linux devs are on salary to develop linux?
>> >
>>
>> You're not comparing like with like.
>>
>> Linux is not an OS; FreeBSD i
On 18 Jan 2012 17:12, "Igor Mozolevsky" wrote:
> On 18 January 2012 17:06, Devin Teske wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> >> hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Julian Elischer
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:56 AM
>
On 22 Jan 2012 12:05, "Da Rock" <9phack...@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
> On 01/22/12 15:49, Mark Linimon wrote:
>>
>> As I type this, there are 1122 ports PRs (6272 total PRs). On most days,
around 40 come in.
>
> How do you get that number? I ran a search on pr's and only came up with
arou
On 24 January 2012 18:36, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> "Mark Linimon" pisze:
>> We don't have a way to track emails that various users send to individual
>> maintainers. With a PR open, we have a way to do that. We also track
>> maintainer-timeouts, and these can eventually lead to a maintai
On 1 Mar 2012 16:31, "Garrett Cooper" wrote:
>
> 2012/3/1 :
> > When building world and kernel, I was pissed off with endless amount of
output, as it also makes my eyes into rolling, thus decided to care only
for errors.
> > So I've redirected STDOUT to /dev/null.
> > Upon error, there is JUST 1
On 2 Mar 2012 15:17, wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: John Baldwin
> To: rank1see...@gmail.com
> Cc: hack...@freebsd.org, "Roman Divacky" , Andriy
Gapon
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:14:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: BUG: 9.0 stage 2 boot (/boot/boot)
>
>
> > > However, avg@ might have foun
On 5 Mar 2012 14:36, "Dr. A. Haakh" wrote:
>
> As suggested my M. Seaman, i repost my message here.
>
> Original Message
> Subject:on purpose or forgotten ? hardcoded compiler in
basesystem-makefiles
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 11:12:42 +0100
> From: Dr. A. Haakh
> To:
On 26 March 2012 18:10, wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: John Baldwin
> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Cc: rank1see...@gmail.com, hack...@freebsd.org
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:53 -0400
> Subject: Re: Active slice, only for a next boot
>
>> On Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:49:17 p
On 28 Mar 2012 21:23, "Chris.H" wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> Over the past year, in an effort to convert my server farm to wireless,
I've purchased some half a dozen USB wireless dongles, at a total cost of
~150.00. Unfortunately, none of them are (yet) supported — I know, I know,
I've already had thi
On 4 Apr 2012 06:41, "Julian Elischer" wrote:
>
> On 4/2/12 10:12 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, April 02, 2012 12:39:26 pm Yuri wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/02/2012 05:31, John Baldwin wrote:
Hmm, I don't know if the port has it, but I did some work on pstack a
while
ago to make
On 29 Apr 2012 16:33, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>>
>> FreeBSD installation and boot style are very nice . Personally I dislike
very much Ubuntu-like installs ( nothing is displayed about
>> what is going on ) and I never use it ( in spite of I am installing each
release of it ) .
>
>
> Another w
On 20 May 2012 15:08, Uffe Jakobsen wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> On 2012-05-19 20:59, سید احمد حسینی wrote:
>>
>> I used boot0 with boot9cfg : boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 ada0
>> And I can see boot0 menu ,but Ubuntu can't boot!
>> On May 19, 2012 11:26 PM, "سید احمد حسینی" wrote:
>>
>
> You should make
On 21 May 2012 14:47, David Windsor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While doing some research on FreeBSD jails, I came across an item in the
> jails' TODO:
>
>
> - be able to have a separate PID space for it
> - be able to specify a separate UID space for it
>
> In other projects, these goals have been accom
On 21 May 2012 20:57, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message
>
> , Chris Rees writes:
>
>>It would certainly prevent many common problems when setting up jails;
>>UID collision is much more common than you'd think, given that the
>>default UIDs remain the same.
On 26 May 2012 15:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> Why? Your laptop have most probably slow CPU and it will make everything
>>> too slow if you make everything encrypted.
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest some experiments - create a largish RAMdisk with and without
>> GELI and see how the performance compares (t
On 26 May 2012 16:04, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>
>>> use tmpfs and don't fear to add /var/tmp to it.
>>
>>
>> I would fear to add /var/tmp-- /var/tmp should persist across reboots.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
> as i noted - check your case.in my case it is not a problem. it your it may.
>
> Never blindly fo
On 3 June 2012 09:25, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> for SCSI/SAS/FC there is targ(4) driver allows you to become SCSI target.
>
> is it the same possible with USB?
> i mean if i can make my laptop to simulate say USB CDROM.
>
> Yes there are no driver line targ(4) for USB, but it is technically possibl
On Jun 7, 2012 2:58 PM, wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: John Baldwin
> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Cc: rank1see...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:21:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: CD bootcode
>
> > On Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15:14 pm rank1see...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Fre
On Jun 14, 2012 5:52 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>> Friends,
>>
>> I am looking at the upcoming release schedule, and I only see 9.1 listed
- can anyone confirm or deny 8.4 ?
>
>
> does it matter. cvsup RELENG_8 and you see updates are done constantly.
> just sometime somebody decide to change
On Jun 14, 2012 9:30 AM, "Damien Fleuriot" wrote:
>
> On 6/14/12 9:09 AM, Chris Rees wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 2012 5:52 AM, "Wojciech Puchar" <
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Friends,
> >>>
On Jun 15, 2012 9:39 AM, "Peter Jeremy" wrote:
>
> On 2012-Jun-14 08:09:30 +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
> >Except STABLE is no good for production, and the problem is EoL- updates
> >and support stop.
>
> There's nothing stopping you from from running -stab
On Jun 14, 2012 5:49 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>>
>>> file to take 900MB or... can i call some system function to "punch"
>>> holes?
>>
>>
>> I think you can only truncate the file at this time, pretty much like
>> brk() works for memory.
>
>
>
> BAD. suppose i keep windoze VM image on filesys
On Jun 16, 2012 8:37 PM, "Xin LI" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Chris Rees wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 2012 5:49 AM, "Wojciech Puchar" <
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> file t
On Jun 16, 2012 8:26 PM, wrote:
>
> > > And PLEASE DO NOT make this stupid MSDOS style slices. It is not just
> > > unneeded but introduces mess and only mess.
> > >
> > > just have /dev/ad0a not /dev/ad0s1a
>
>
> What FreeBSD devs have to say about this?
> ;)
I say we have GPT this decade :)
Ch
On Jun 20, 2012 11:03 PM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>>
>>> scripts, i deleted most of it and put startup sequence in single file.
>>>
>>> It was plain horror.
>>
>>
>> You would weep if you saw Solaris's SMF, then. Everything is
>
>
> i don't really know what i've seen. i've installed latest sola
On Jun 21, 2012 5:15 PM, "Jason Hellenthal" wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:22:08PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > Lets make a summary.
> >
> > What functionality would be good to have in FreeBSD that doesn't exist:
> >
> > 1) "runlevels" with arbitrary names. runlevel change would st
On Jun 22, 2012 7:33 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>>
>>> separate and optional program.
>>> that's acceptable, except i have no idea why this fscadm enable/disable.
>>> editing config is enough.
>>
>>
>> I don't think I understand
>> "i have no idea why this fscadm enable/disable. editing config
On Jun 23, 2012 7:04 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>
> 100% HIT!
>
> yes i have on of those that have "PS/2 reset" issues "
Unfortunately even good adaptors have their share of problems. I refuse to
move from the keyboard I have currently, and occasionally keys get
'stuck' but it's so obvious
On Jun 26, 2012 7:07 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>
> as well as we don't depend of /proc for normal operation we shouldn't for
say /proc/sysctl
>
> improvements are welcome, better documentation is welcome, changes to
what is OK - isn't.
/proc/sysctl might be useful. Just because Linux uses it
On Jul 5, 2012 11:16 AM, "Jonathan McKeown" wrote:
>
> On Thursday 05 July 2012 11:03:32 Doug Barton wrote:
> > On 07/05/2012 01:28, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > > On 2012-Jul-05 09:22:25 +0200, Jonathan McKeown
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >> As for the idea that Linux refugees need extra help to migrate,
On Jul 5, 2012 4:00 PM, "Sean" wrote:
>
>
> On 05/07/2012, at 10:02 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> >
> > The second is the e-file command, which will query that database for
> > whatever follows it. For example, if I want to find out which package
> > installs repoman, I can do `e-file repoman`. I can a
On Jul 5, 2012 5:37 PM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> are you serious that linux distros have such a think now?
>>> I didn't use linux for a long time and no plan to use it, but you are
joking isn't it?
>>
>>
>> They do, and it's actually very useful in two cases:
>
>
> no it isn't. unless
On Jul 7, 2012 10:25 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>> something they probably don't even know about, than to skilled users to
>> turn it off.
>>
>> If this feature is going to prints quite a few extra lines, let's just
>> add one more line saying:
>>
>> To disable this message run: echo
On Jul 7, 2012 10:46 AM, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>> This is not 'going down'. This is adding features to help newcomers.
You are free to disable them. It will not remove anything
>
> this doesn't help newcomers. Just like "easy installers", "desktop
environments" and so on.
>
> this only gene
Hi all / David,
doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently
-STABLE too. The current fix is disabling one of the tests in the
build, but obviously it points to a problem with our base system
I've trussed [1] the failing code [2], and it looks as though it's
hanging on
On 5 July 2012 01:30, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this
>>>
>>> No ... not only is sudo not a nec
On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu wrote:
> On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote:
>>
>> Hi all / David,
>>
>> doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently
>> -STABLE too. The current fix is disabling one of the tests in the
>> build, bu
On 18 Jul 2012 09:39, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think this is unintentionally specious reasoning. No offense intended.
:)
>>
> true
>
>
>> The program itself is fairly trivial to write.
>
>
> i don't need such a tool, but if it would be separate tool, then it is
all right if someone like
On 12 July 2012 18:52, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu wrote:
>> On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all / David,
>>>
>>> doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently
>>> -STABLE too.
On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>
> very expensive..
Training and education generally are.
Chris
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On 16 September 2012 10:23, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> This is a resend as Benjamin Kaduk
> dropped the
> Yuri
> from CC line, & Yuri was the original first poster in thread who
> my patch would presumably have helped.
>
> Reference:
>> From: Benjamin Kaduk
>> Date: Sat,
On 16 September 2012 10:11, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> I noticed that we have a handful of patterns currently ignored in
> svn:ignore (at least at the top-level… the lower levels don't appear to be
> set in any particular manner):
>
> $ svn propget svn:ignore
> _.tinderbox.*
> _.amd64.*
> _
On 17 Sep 2012 12:58, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>
>> IMHO, gpart and GEOM are fantastic.
>
>
> anyway it is MUCH easier and faster to edit disklabels with bsdlabel -e
than with gpart.
>
> Unfortunately since some time bsdlabel cannot edit labels if ANY of
partitions are open.
You may be more fami
On 17 Sep 2012 17:22, "Tom Evans" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> > I definitely agree with this. Sun has a book, "UNIX Essentials
> > featuring the Solaris...", and GUI takes a big part in the book. A
> > default GUI is essential to a modern UNIX. FreeBSD can no
Can you perhaps read the whole thread and organise your thoughts into just
one email?
Chris
On 18 Sep 2012 09:09, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
> To be succinct: this is not OSX/Windows. True Unix and Unix clones can
>> be decoupled from a desktop environment enough that forcing everyone
>> to have o
On 18 Sep 2012 09:41, "Wojciech Puchar"
wrote:
>>>
>>> desktop environment" or similar ideas?
>>
>>
>> Tell you what:
>>
>> When you have at least 75% of the user population of FreeBSD agreeing
>> on which window manager we should offer as the default, we can talk
>> about this.
>
>
> so if 76% wo
On 25 October 2012 22:15, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:11:29AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>> two independent efforts (ATF & bmake) and there was no indication that
>> one would be greatly benefitted from the other. At least not to the
>> point of creating a dependency.
>
>
On 25 October 2012 22:32, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> I think there are 2 reasons why not to:
>>
>> 1. The people working on ATF have not raised this concern and
>> have expressed that using the WITH_BMAKE knob is but a small
On 26 Oct 2012 06:01, "Konstantin Belousov" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:01:27 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
> > >Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake
On 26 Oct 2012 19:12, "David O'Brien" wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:12:44AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > Do be able to get the ports tree working with bmake asap, I also asked
> > him to MFC it to 9.1, from latest reply he got positive answer from re@
> > about this, but was waitin
On 26 Oct 2012 20:15, "Chris Rees" wrote:
>
>
> On 26 Oct 2012 19:12, "David O'Brien" wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:12:44AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > Do be able to get the ports tree working with bmake asap, I also
On 26 Oct 2012 21:51, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:00:26 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
> >:L -- seems that bmake's use for this is kinda pointless; returning the
> >name of the variable; we could swap that usage over directly.
>
> A
On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
> >In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3
is
> >supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even
[trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread]
On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees wrote:
>
> On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
>> >In that case
On 27 October 2012 15:32, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 10/27/2012 8:23 AM, Chris Rees wrote:
>> [trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread]
>>
>> On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees wrote:
>>>
>>> On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Sim
Hi all,
I've tried to have a look at some of the lingering issues in our rc
[1] as well as kick up some discussion over some other patches, but
looking over the archives of the list it seems that no-one is
maintaining it or reviewing patches.
Because of this, I'm having a hard time working out ho
On 27 October 2012 18:27, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
>>These discussions need backing up with a real roadmap, including detail on
>>exactly what 8.3 and 7.4 users will have to do to ensure that the ports
>>tree still works.
>
> I've tested the ports tree converted to bmake - per the "patch" I
> menti
On 27 October 2012 19:52, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:29 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
>>We (ab)use the security update mechanism to merge the pmake changes
>>(:tl and :tu) into releng/7.4 and releng/8.3 (possibly the earlier
>
> I originally provid
On 27 October 2012 22:17, hiren panchasara wrote:
> [removing the CC list]
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>
>> (cc'ing -ports and cutting most of the rest)
>>
>> > From: Eitan Adler
>> .>
>> >On 24 October 2012 13:24, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>> >> Also related to tha
On 27 October 2012 22:10, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:53:56 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
>>I'm saying that it's unacceptable to expect people to change their
>>systems just to make the ports tree work after we have broken it on a
>>supposedly
On 28 October 2012 19:11, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:06:41 +, Chris Rees writes:
>>Are we planning to replace /usr/bin/make with bmake in the near future?
>
> That was what I heard, but any such move is dependent on dealing with
> ports. The ~sjg/
On 5 September 2012 07:40, Alexander Yerenkow wrote:
> Hello all.
> I'm currently trying to make poudriere cross compile some ports for arm
> arch.
> I'm using such command (as example):
>
> env TARGET=arm TARGET_ARCH=armv6 TARGET_CPUARCH=armv6
> PATH=/usr/obj/arm.armv6/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:${PATH}
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