Re: buildworld via ro mounted /usr/src

2002-01-31 Thread BOUWSMA Beery
Moin, moin! %s wrote on %.3s, %lld Sep 1993 > and building world/kernel via nfs mounts. > in order not to get things mixed up i share /usr/ports and /usr/src ro and > /usr/ports/distfiles, /usr/obj rw. > should work as desired: > WRKDIRPREFIX set to a reasonable value (depending on arch and cpu

cleaning up of /usr/ports/distfiles

2002-01-31 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there, While looking for a perl substitute for /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade/, I came across Lukas Ertl's portupgrade.pl (http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/portsupgrade.html) - One feature however that it didn't have was the ability to remove old distfiles. I sat down and quickly hacked toget

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread BOUWSMA Beery
Moin, moin! %s wrote on %.3s, %lld Sep 1993 > > > Does 4.5 also leave write-caching on by default? If so, I think that's a > > > terrible mistake. Would I be correct in assuming it's way to late to get > > > this reconsidered? > > > > Yes, write-cache is enabled by default on 4.5 (as it was on

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Rogier R. Mulhuijzen
>It sounds as if the default five seconds isn't always enough time for >your disk to do its job. (I've only done poweroff on an idle system so >I haven't run into such a problem myself.) > >I don't see it would hurt anything for this default to be increased to >help out this problem. But what v

Re: cleaning up of /usr/ports/distfiles

2002-01-31 Thread Marc Silver
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:43:07PM +0300, Alexey V. Neyman wrote: > Have you looked at /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/distclean.sh ? It has one > major difference from your script, it won't delete distfiles for ports > which are not currently installed. Thanks, never knew that existed actually. :) I

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Rogier R. Mulhuijzen wrote: > > >It sounds as if the default five seconds isn't always enough time for > >your disk to do its job. (I've only done poweroff on an idle system so > >I haven't run into such a problem myself.) > > > >I don't see it would hurt anything for this default to be

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
> > > > Does 4.5 also leave write-caching on by default? If so, I think > > > > that's a terrible mistake. Would I be correct in assuming it's > > > > way to late to get this reconsidered? > > > > > > Yes, write-cache is enabled by default on 4.5 (as it was on 4.4). > > > > > > The debate on thi

Re: JKH - Jr. Kernel Hacker task

2002-01-31 Thread Robert Watson
I'm sorry Warner, but your submission has been rejected on the basis that you are a Senior Kernel Hacker. :-) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message:

Re: JKH - Jr. Kernel Hacker task

2002-01-31 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:59:24AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > I'm sorry Warner, but your submission has been rejected on the basis that > you are a Senior Kernel Hacker. :-) I've never submitted a kernel patch before, so... Index: sio.c =

Re[2]: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Walter Hop
[in reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 31/01/2002] > Wouldn't the Right Thing (tm) be to ask the controllers/disk whether or > not their caches are clean? Assuming such a thing is even possible. If I recall correctly, IDE drives always lie about this.. -- Walter Hop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Updated conta

Re: SurfBoard SB1000 cable modem in FreeBSD?

2002-01-31 Thread Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:55:08PM -0600, mkm wrote: > > > At first, I tried looking for support under FreeBSD but > > found none. Then, I tried to get it working under Linux since it > > seems to be supported. I'll spare the details since this is not the > > place for non-FreeBSD stuff. HEhe

Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Eugene Panchenko
Hello! I've seen various postings on the Net where people reported network-related and overall performance improvements caused by settig HZ kernel option to 1000 (for example), that is, reducing a tick size to 1ms for their FreeBSD and Linux systems. However, several problems seem to arise, such

A question about make install

2002-01-31 Thread Zhihui Zhang
Each time I modify some kernel source, I have to do the following two steps: (1) make (2) make install The second step also re-installs ALL modules even if I only modifies the kernel code (not any of the module code). Is there a better way to do this? Thanks, -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send m

problem in 4.5-REL with nge and GA621

2002-01-31 Thread Matt Wilbur
Hello, Please smack me if I've missed something stupid. I have a Netgear GA-621, DP83820 controller, that won't attach w/4.5-REL, and I can't figure out why. I'm loathe to admit it, but it "works fine in leenux", so I know the hardware's OK. I've attached dmesg output (first dmesg is as it hap

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Storms of Perfection
I am intrested in this as well. > Hello! > > I've seen various postings on the Net where people reported > network-related and overall performance improvements caused > by settig HZ kernel option to 1000 (for example), that is, > reducing a tick size to 1ms for their FreeBSD and Linux > systems.

Re: A question about make install

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Faulhaber
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:19:21PM -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > Each time I modify some kernel source, I have to do the following two > steps: > > (1) make > (2) make install > > The second step also re-installs ALL modules even if I only modifies the > kernel code (not any of the module code

ARP and AX.25 (help needed)

2002-01-31 Thread Aleksander Rozman - Andy
Hello Everybody ! I am working on implementation of AX.25 protocol. My code also needs ARP and I was wondering if there is a way to use existing ARP code, or do I need to duplicate code and use my arp structure instead original one? I need arp to resolve HAM addresses to IP addresses. HAM add

increasing the available address space with FreeBSD

2002-01-31 Thread Jules Gilbert
Dear Greg: Hi. I need to run large address space jobs using FreeBSD 4.3 I have already upp'ed the available space to about 1.5GB (6 * 256MB). But that was not enough and now I would like to go to at least 2GB or perhaps!, 2.5GB. At present time we have the following params in the kernel conf

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Thierry Herbelot
I've used a large collection of PCs running somewhat real-time network analysis with a HZ set at 5000Hz with absolutely no ill effects (this was with P-III-450's) using HZ=1 was outside of the possibilities of the machines. one big gain is with timing, which will be better (I myself used NTP

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Storms of Perfection
I'm going to benchmark different network senarious with different options to see what I can get, and what works best. If someone wants to help me out, I could maybe write up a article about it? > I've used a large collection of PCs running somewhat real-time network > analysis with a HZ set at 5

Re: A question about make install

2002-01-31 Thread Rogier R. Mulhuijzen
At 14:25 31-1-2002 -0500, Chris Faulhaber wrote: >On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:19:21PM -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > > Each time I modify some kernel source, I have to do the following two > > steps: > > > > (1) make > > (2) make install > > > > The second step also re-installs ALL modules even i

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Eugene Panchenko
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:36:10 -0500 (EST) "Storms of Perfection" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to benchmark different network senarious with > different options > to see what I can get, and what works best. If someone > wants to help me > out, I could maybe write up a article about it?

RE: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1)
I vote for HZ=10. What would be our test plan? Igor. >I'm going to benchmark different network senarious with different options >to see what I can get, and what works best. If someone wants to help me >out, I could maybe write up a article about it? >> I've used a large collection of PCs r

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Storms of Perfection wrote: > I'm going to benchmark different network senarious with different options > to see what I can get, and what works best. If someone wants to help me > out, I could maybe write up a article about it? I don't think you'll end up seeing the perfor

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Michael Meltzer
Not knowing but wondering: With Gigabit Ethernet and NFS in the mix, anything that gets latency out is a very good thing :-) and would improve performance. MJM - Original Message - From: "Mike Silbersack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Storms of Perfection" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Storms of Perfection
Ok. Since I have a limited hardware/software set at my finger tips. I can generate an attack on my machine (such as a synflood or something) to see what type of reponses I can get by setting it up and down. I think this may apply to this feature, to help the machine withstand attacks (and possibly

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Terry Lambert
"Søren Schmidt" wrote: > The proper thing is to flush the cache's on shutdown, the way it is now > all ATA disks are flushed on device close, problem is we newer close > the / device, which I found out some time after I did the flush code, > bit newer got around to fixing.. It's been my experienc

Re: Again Softupdates on 4.5

2002-01-31 Thread Terry Lambert
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > After that I turned write caching off. I had one more panic, but no > disasters -- the automatic fsck worked. Maybe it's just me but I > don't really notice a slowing down with write caching off (softupdates > is still on). Write caching permits the disk to reorder wr

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Michael Meltzer
well I changed HZ=1000, recompiled and rebooted, ftp get and put, some nfs write big files and a app that pushes alot of small file reads, writes and rcp.lockd. No differance in the timings. Thier is a chance that the test client ran out of CPU but nothing that I spotted. MJM - Original Mess

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Michael Meltzer wrote: > Not knowing but wondering: > With Gigabit Ethernet and NFS in the mix, anything that gets latency out is > a very good thing :-) and would improve performance. > > MJM Even in those cases, the increased resolution will not help you. 10ms is more th

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Marko Zec
Storms of Perfection wrote: > Ok. Since I have a limited hardware/software set at my finger tips. I can > generate an attack on my machine (such as a synflood or something) to see > what type of reponses I can get by setting it up and down. I think this may > apply to this feature, to help the ma

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Terry Lambert
Mike Silbersack wrote: > The TCP stack, on the other hand, is perfectly happy with 10ms resolution. > Retransmission timeouts are only actually used when loss occurs on the > network, and 10ms is more than accurate enough for retransmission. (I > believe that retransmit timeouts are rounded up to

Re: Clock Granularity (kernel option HZ)

2002-01-31 Thread Terry Lambert
Eugene Panchenko wrote: > I've seen various postings on the Net where people reported > network-related and overall performance improvements caused > by settig HZ kernel option to 1000 (for example), that is, > reducing a tick size to 1ms for their FreeBSD and Linux > systems. This is a NETISR pr

Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-31 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:00:03AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as > > 386BSD 0.1 + PK 024. There are a couple minor points that need to be > > clarified from Caldera before it can be made public. > > There are? What are they?